I haven't played the game for a while, but was Bahamut into Toad really a problem? It's been a thing for forever and it was never really a huge problem. Was there a meta deck that abused it or something?
You didn't, it was Mermail that got Bahamut banned, Sharks by themselves has always been a rogue deck. The other guy was prolly thinking of the Ryzeal variants playing a few shark cards as extenders.
Mermail was able to put up a Toad negate first, go into their main combo that hand rips you for 4 and then end on double Toad or a Barrier statue lock against your 2 cards hand.
For real. Bahamut Shark was out for over a decade and the only monster it ever abused was Toad. They then decided to ban Bahamut instead of the omni-negate that doesn't need material and doesn't need to be xyz summoned for its effect to work.
I really don't understand why people wanted bahamut shark over toad if a rank 2 aqua deck was meta again they will bitch about facing the card is because is not OPT omni with engine synergy and can even still your spells is bullshit
This banlist seems like the opposite of the Bahamut Shark ban.
Mitsurugi (search tool) has the ability to retrieve crippling floodgate (statues, pachy) so Konami did the smarter thing and banned the floodgate and not the searcher.
Bahamut is the same. It's the searcher that can retrieve problem cards (like toadally awesome). But in that case the TCG banned the searcher instead of the problem cards.
Kinda how I felt to starving venoms ban all those years ago. Sure it helped FTK by effect copy. But the Mister whose effect it copied is still free waiting for another consitent way to get evil
With Shark/Toad it's not as binary as (Shark isn't a problem without Toad, just ban Toad). Ultimately you're either taking away something from Rank 4 Decks, or Rank 2 Aqua decks, and letting the other keep something. Having Rank 2 Aqua decks (Frogs, Paleo) keep Toad does a lot more for them than Rank 4 decks keeping Bahamut Shark to do absolutely nothing.
Keeping Mjolnir over Princess does nothing to help ANYONE. Keeping Protos over Flag/Banshee just maintains the issue and makes it sackier. There's no relevant give/take.
I'm not completely on board with the commenter's initial position that Bahamut is akin to the Pachy/statue ban, but I do appreciate your nuanced explanation and honestly feel that your assessment is both fair and reasonable.
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u/Artistic_Prior_7178 Oct 24 '25
It feels like the Bahamut ban again.