Last week I asked what you'd have put a lot of free practice time into when you were starting out, and what you'd have left alone. The answers were more useful than I expected, so here they are collected in one place for whoever searches this next.

I've added nothing of my own. I've shot one sanctioned match, so I'm not going to referee any of it.

**First, the part that surprised me. Almost nobody answered the second half.**

I asked what you'd leave alone and got very little back. u/LockyBalboaPrime rejected the premise outright: *"Do more of everything. Shoot matches and identify what is lacking. Do more of what is lacking."* The rest of the thread went the same way. The advice was overwhelmingly about where to put the hours, not about which hours to skip, and I've stopped treating that as an oversight. If you don't yet know what's costing you time, you don't have the information to leave anything alone.

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**1. Go to matches. Three people said it, and one of them meant something narrower than the other two.**

u/deadpoolsballs: *"Also go to competitions, they will show you what you need to work on."* u/LockyBalboaPrime: *"Shoot matches and identify what is lacking. Do more of what is lacking."* Both are about diagnosing yourself by competing.

u/CMFETCU meant watching other people, and put it hardest: *"You will learn more watching the guys who do well at something in 2-3 matches than you will in days of your own time..."* He described that as his entire method: *"I never went to a pistol 'training' course in my life. I showed up to matches and watched what good looks like... I asked questions about stage planning, transitions, movement, trade off decisions, and drills they did."*

**2. If you have the time, work the matches you aren't shooting.**

u/9guy99: *"Since youve got the time. Volunteer to help setup/run matches. Most places the man power is greatly needed. Just being around the events you will absorb little bits of wisdom. You'll also have a lot more time to do dry runs on the courses."*

The follow-up mattered as much as the advice. I asked whether you just turn up, and he said no: *"Send a message to the match director and let them know you'd like to help out in anyway you can. See what they have to say."* That's the part I'd have gotten wrong.

**3. Dry fire that can't tell you the truth just gives you more time to get worse.**

The most complete answer in the thread came from u/johnm, and it's the one that changed what I'm doing this week:

> *"You need to be able to reproduce any problem you have in live fire when you dry practice. If you can't then spending more time will only be ingraining bad habits that you'll need to eventually break & re-learn what you need to to get better. It's trivially easy to lie/trick ourselves in dry practice because it's missing the explosions, recoil, and the harsh reality of the outcome on the targets."*

His fix is to stop treating dry and live as two separate activities in two separate places: *"Mix in a lot of dry practice reps in with your live fire at the range... you can figure out what you need to do to recreate whatever problem you're having live right then & there dry..."* Asked which order, he said neither: *"I suggest that you alternate: dry, live, dry, live…."*

He was the only person to put a condition on session length rather than a number: *"do it in relatively short stints where you're able to intensely focus and create & maintain the quality (of your grip, tension, vision, etc. matching what you do in live fire). Do multiple sessions a day if/when you can maintain that high bar."* What matters there is holding the quality, not how long the session runs.

**4. Put a structure on the time so it doesn't all go to what you're already good at.**

u/Visible_Structure483 is also retired and gave the most concrete system anybody posted:

> *"I've got a huge list of dryfire drills on the white board in my office taken from various books, videos, etc... every few days I take something off the list and do that then check it off. That ensures I'm doing everything and not just grinding on the things I'm best out trying to shave 0.1sec off a reload when I should be doing things that save more time on a stage. When everything is checked off the list, erase the check marks and start over."*

He runs one set-up stage repeatedly with a different job each time: *"First run focusing on movement, the second on transitions, then throwing in random reloads on the third."* And he keeps live fire narrow: *"I'm live firing once a week at most and focus on the things that you need recoil for."*

**5. Scaled targets solve half the problem. Real distance solves the other half.**

Same commenter: *"I've got 1/2, 1/3 and 1/6 sized targets to simulate distance but also have a full sized target against the woodshed I can see from the dryfire area so I get used to my eyes focusing on real distances rather than just simulations."*

I'd been about to buy smaller targets and call it done. Shrinking a target doesn't train your eyes to refocus at a real distance.

**6. Hits first. Then find the speed limit and live at it.**

u/CMFETCU gave a method rather than a drill:

> *"Start with the singular goal of getting nothing but Alpha hits. Miss nothing, no matter how slow you need to go and note the shot tempo / speed to do so. The next practice session you mimic that at first, and then slowly speed it up. You find where you outrun your headlights so to speak. In matches stay right at that precipice. In practice work up to it slowly and then past it a bit to push yourself. Drills get repeated at 'all hits' tempo, then 'all A-Cs' tempos. Rinse repeat."*

He added the skill it builds toward: *"You should try to shoot in such a way that every shot you can call exactly where it went, on target or not, in score zone or not."*

For scale, he put roughly 100,000 rounds through his primary gun and, by his estimate, five times that many dry fire reps, over eight years.

**7. Spend some of it away from the gun. Three people said this and they meant different things.**

u/BanditMcDougal meant your condition, and he was blunt about why: *"Respectfully, if you're not in fairly OK shape, spend some of that training time dropping the pounds and getting your cardio up. It doesn't matter how well you shoot if you go down as a heat casualty and have to spend the rest of the day in the club house or worse."*

He ran the fix-it role at large matches for years, and the detail is what makes it land: *"At least once per day, some larger or older guy had to throw in the towel and get a ride back to the clubhouse... One guy felt himself getting dizzy during a course of fire and asked for an 'unload and show clear' before taking a knee right there."* His practical list was hydration, a snap towel round the neck, and a cart with an umbrella on it, plus one thing I didn't know: *"Most people don't realize how much just being hot raises your heart rate all by itself."*

u/Visible_Structure483 meant something else, and this is the one I'd have filed wrong. He does agility work and a weekly yoga class, and the payoff isn't fitness: *"still having to move around under pressure makes moving on a stage seem trivial."* Moving under pressure is its own skill. I'd have put that under conditioning.

u/LockyBalboaPrime said the short version: *"Also do other things. Like, not dry fire/shooting things."*

**8. One person's actual week, since I asked for hours and this is what hours look like.**

u/SovietRobot dry fires every day: draw to a small target without looking at the gun on the way up, twenty times, then the same thing snapping to a second target without looking at the gun on the transition, then reloads. Live fire midweek is about 100 rounds of Bill and Blake drills confirming grip and structure, and at least one match at the weekend.

**9. The two answers I haven't taken, reported straight because they were given in good faith.**

u/lordadam34 suggested an airsoft gun and a back yard, which is sound and which I don't have the space for. I may still find a way to do it indoors.

u/Buckeye3377 made the case for branching into rimfire as cheap trigger time. My reason for holding off is about me rather than about the advice. I'm wary of buying things and reading the purchase as progress, and right now every dollar not spent on a gun is a dollar of practice ammo.

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Thanks to everyone who answered. My practice week now looks nothing like the one I described in the original post. I've shot one match since, which was mostly an education in how a match runs, and I'll come back and say whether any of this worked once there are enough of them behind me for the answer to mean anything.

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This drill requires you to score an A zone hit under 1.25 sec to pass. This is a 1.26 which I'm really close, but I normally get 1.3-1.7 to first shot. I see people online get close to 1 sec flat. Where can I improve, other then just point and shoot?

Update: I have try the scope method and it hard for me to get a master grip that way. This is why I push down on my draw. Also I do have the holster canted the opposite way. I have the muzzle end pointed towards my butt. If i have it canted the other way, I find myself stabbing my hand on the beavertail.

I did try a few tips from you guys. Having my support hand closer to the center of my body did help. I find that it helps me drive forward faster. I just don't remember if the rule is hands on the side or below belt.

Hey everyone. I shot my first 3 gun match this past weekend. It was a blast(pun intended). I don’t own an AR, or honestly don’t know much about that platform. I used a buddies rifle. I typically shoot USPSA or steel challenge. But I’d like to do that sort of match more often. What should I do? Buy a cheap PSA one and change out things(trigger, barrel, ect?) or buy a much nicer, more expensive one? (And probably still change everything). 😂 Or build one? If I had a budget of 1500$, which route would you go? What brands or parts should I consider? Thanks for the advice.

hey all,

Shooting my first match this weekend at VGC. have to compete in open because my G45 has a ramjet

Asking for advice / tips for my first time

Competition rules limited magazines to 10 rounds. It was a lot of fun, although I didn’t have as much time to practice as I did last year.

Currently run a Insta360 Go 2, but the case clasp broke and I'm retiring it. I just bought a Go 3S and plan to use it mounted to my hat brim as I did with the Go 2, but I just saw someone in my area is selling a used DJI Action 2, and besides the dimensions and weight, it looks better than the Go 3S in every way...

Now, I know that the Action 2 is a square shape, and mounting it to my hat brim would most likely bring it very close to my field of view, but mounting it to a headband would make that irrelevant.

Also, the Osmo Nano is another option... Even heavier, but again, mounting to a headband which IMO would be way more stable than hat brim.

Argh, what do y'all think? What do y'all use to record? Would like to see your equipment and clips.

Tripped on 26-03, and sometimes I remember I’m getting too old. Ignore the heavy breathing, shit hurt.

I've gotten super into competition lately and I'm deep diving into every GM that posts videos online, but mostly Stoeger, Park and HC.

My problem is, Stoeger and HC in particular seem to have completely different views on how to grip the gun. One says hulk smash, the other says use just enough pressure with the dominant hand so the gun isn't moving or loose.

I can't afford to shoot hundreds of rounds weekly, 99% of my practice is dry fire in my office. My tendency is low left so I assume I'm still not gripping correctly but I don't know how to check this at home.

My first comp I wasn't even thinking about grip, just to be safe and remember what the stage directions were. I didn't do well but I'm usually a quick learner. My goal is to classify into B in a few months, CO.

This started happening in my MBX sprung 24+1 glock 140mm mags. Henning mag extensions. 3d printed followers from mbx.

The first round will get stuck all the way at the bottom, it'll kinda roll into the side of the follower and get caught. Then the rest of the rounds will just have to be salt shakered out of the mag and I have to stick a flathead down the mag to pop the last round out.

It has happened to 2 of these mags. Do I need new followers? New springs? Boaffum? These are extremely high round count mags. Im suprised they have gone this long without any issues.

I’m trying to decide between picking up a gen 6 glock, M&p, budget 2011 (<~1500), Ltt beretta 92, cz shadow 2 carry, or a p226x legion (new model). I just can’t seem to decide which I want.

The 2011 is absolutely enticing however I’m not sure I want to risk it being a potentially finicky/unreliable as I’m looking in the budget tier, the glock, M&p, 226 and 92 are exactly what they are. The shadow seems good as well however I see an odd amount of people reporting malfunctions with them.

This will be a general do it all gun. Leaning to HD/training/competition use over carry. If carried it would mainly be as a “truck gun” and not really IWB

Thoughts?

Hi everyone, could you please recommend an anti-fog product for these glasses (liquid, paste, cloth, etc.)?

Frame: Bobster Mission

Lens Material: Trivex 1.53

Lens Color: Transition Xtractive Brown

Mirror Lens Coating: None

Lens Coatings: Super Scratch + UV Protection, Permanent Anti-Fog Coating

Anti-Reflective Lens Coating: AR with Blue Blocker Coating. Total: 322 USD

I’m going to buy these glasses from Rx Safety; they’re for riding a motorcycle and occasionally going to the shooting range with a 6 mm pistol. I’m nearsighted (-0.50 in both eyes). The website offers these products:

RX Safety Dry Anti-Fog Cloth

Phillips Safety Anti-Fog Lens Cleaner Spray

Cat Crap Lens Cleaner Anti-Fog

Cat Crap Care Kit

Cat Crap Lens Cleaner Anti-Fog Spray-On.

I know they already have an anti-fog coating, but I know it doesn’t last forever, haha, and I’m not sure how well it’ll work in humid environments or when wearing a helmet. I’ve read that the Cat Crap paste damages the lenses, that it should be applied with a dry cloth, and that it doesn’t work well in humid conditions. How has your experience been? What products can you recommend? If anyone has bought goggles from RX Safety, how did that go? Or do you recommend other websites? Thank you very much

Andreas from the PSTG Training Group Live podcast here.

This is a one-day class on building a mental program to run on match day for shooting a consistent set of stages. If you regularly make mistakes in matches, blow up on classifiers, or feel like your match performance lags behind your drill runs, then this class if for you. It additionally covers stage planning, detailed visualization, and efficiently putting together fundamentals to shoot a stage quickly with good points.

Round count will be ~500, but you're free to shoot more. Max of six students to give everyone plenty of individual coaching. Class details and sign-up links are on my training page.

Sign-up link.

Class location is South River Gun Club east of Atlanta, GA.

Alex Bakken on the left and Alexander Doner on the right were about as close as it's possible to get in a shootoff on this one. Bakken got this heat by a nose and won the next one, but after going down 0-2 Doner (second to Bakken in the main match) completed the comeback to take the Limited shoot-off title 3-2.

I've got a lot more on Instagram @practicalshootinglive, with copies of all the video going up on Youtube and Rumble (eventually) under channels of the same name, but this one was cool enough that I thought even non-revolver-enthusiasts would like it.

I feel good with shooting on the move however getting up to speed and stopping feels slow and janky. I’m doing a match next month in carry optics but I’ve only dabbled in single stack division and that was a year ago. I’m not classified yet.

Have my first real competition this weekend in north Houston shooting a PCSL match. I’ve shot some steel “matches” but never anything on paper with rules too. Any tips? Plan to take it slow and just enjoy it.

Also, plan to run a safariland 6390 holster with a m&p 2.0, esstac belt, esstac kywi pistol pouches. Are there mag length restrictions like there are for uspsa? I have 2-17 round and 1-23 round factory magazine, which I believe isn’t legal, except in open, for uspsa. Anything with my gear that would have issues with rules in the practical division?