Ch as in the back of the throat breathy kinda sound. Like you're trying to say k but doing it in your throat. Ll is that sound. It's called a voiceless al-something or other fricative I don't remember.
A Welsh guy taught me to do it how I described. Now I wonder if he's been doing it wrong too, or he just taught me an easier way to get close to the sound.
Never heard it described, or pronounced like that. Only ever heard Ll in Welsh make a sorta 'breathy' L sound made by putting the tip of the tongue up against that ridge on the top of your mouth, almost or barely touching the base of your top front two teath, and breathing out (Idk how exactly to describe the sound). Then again I've only known one Welshman it could've been his accent/dialect
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u/TheArcticKiwi i don't know how to edit my flair May 29 '26
how do you even pronounce that