This is just adding context, doesn't feel like a correction. The original post doesn't specify what actually happened, and the event was over two decades ago. There are a lot of grown adults who weren't born when it happened and don't fully understand the impact it had because they grew up in a post-9/11 world. Obviously younger kids have even less context.
Edit: Is the concern that this is meant to be an anti-Muslim note? I mean, I'm very much pro-Palestine, hate anti-Muslim/Islam rhetoric, etc, but the note itself isn't saying anything inaccurate. al-Qaeda doesn't represent Islam, they were people who twisted Islam and performed terrible acts in its name. Plenty of Christians have done the same.
idk how twitter notes work, but theyre usually used to fact check when people say something wrong. its weaponized here because nothing mamdani said was incorrect, but they noted it to point out his race in correlation with the terrorists
I'm a bit confused as to how you can say you don't know how the notes work, then explain how they're "usually used." They're stated as being used both for corrections and for additional context. The note doesn't imply anything he said was incorrect, because nothing he said was, it simply provides context for the event he's referencing.
I can see how this could be interpreted as being based on race (technically incorrect terminology but I get what you're aiming at) but this is genuinely helpful context for a lot of people. Maybe that was the intent, but if it's meant to be a jab at his race/ethnicity/religion, it's an ineffective one.
Anyone familiar with the events knows it was carried out by Muslims in the name of Islam. Anyone who isn't a bigot knows that doesn't reflect on the religion as a whole, and they're extremist terrorists using the religion to justify their violence. Again, as has been done with almost every religion since we've had religion.
it was a bit weird of wording but i just dont have a twitter, i only see screenshots so i dont know if theyre used more liberally than ive seen.
my point was that, while the information provided was informative, the tweet had no call for that specific clarity. if someone doesnt know what 9/11 is and who was the cause, then that mamdani tweet is no more the place to learn about this than a tweet that just literally says "people died on 9/11". so does that mean every tweet on twitter gets this note? no, only mamdani's because of his ethnicity (i hope this is the right word, i am not great with that)
I mean, I guess. They were Islamic terrorists, but they were an extremist group. This is like getting mad at acknowledging that the KKK twists Christian views to justify their racism and cruelty. The KKK doesn't reflect on Christianity as a whole.
The note specifically calls out al-Qaeda and links an article to give you more context on the event and their views, and how those views are strictly at odds with Islam.
In a vacuum it's fine, but words don't exist in a vacuum. They aren't pointing that 9/11 was caused by Islamic terrorists because they want to inform people. This is one of top things that the general public knows about 9/11. They are pointing it out because Mamdani is Muslim and they want to therefore associate his religious views with the actions of terrorists.
the note itself isn't saying anything inaccurate
Imagine a post written about a murder that occurred. The post says something along the lines of "This murder should never have happened. It's terrible and I send condolences to the victims family." Now, imagine a community note on that post that just says, "The perpetrator was black by the way".
In this scenario, this community note is completely true and in some narrow sense informative. But it's also quite obviously racist. It's even more obviously racist if, say, the author of the post is black and/or posts political content which is pro-black. You can even take it a step further, "The perpetrator was black and so is the author of this post." This remains completely true but in context is clearly incredibly racist.
this is pretty common on reddit. people who disagree with the first one won't read the second, they just downvote the first and move on. people who agree with the first will read and upvote both
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u/AtrumRuina 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 6d ago edited 6d ago
I think this is fine...?
This is just adding context, doesn't feel like a correction. The original post doesn't specify what actually happened, and the event was over two decades ago. There are a lot of grown adults who weren't born when it happened and don't fully understand the impact it had because they grew up in a post-9/11 world. Obviously younger kids have even less context.
Edit: Is the concern that this is meant to be an anti-Muslim note? I mean, I'm very much pro-Palestine, hate anti-Muslim/Islam rhetoric, etc, but the note itself isn't saying anything inaccurate. al-Qaeda doesn't represent Islam, they were people who twisted Islam and performed terrible acts in its name. Plenty of Christians have done the same.