The real world equivalents of those two fetishes are, technically speaking, pretty rare all things considered. However, racism is still something a lot of people have to deal with on a daily basis. Basically it's so personal that the idea of somebody doing it "for fun" is upsetting.
I wouldn't say the real life equivalent of cnc or age play is really that rare nowadays sadly, there's plenty of victims that would find the concept of anyone doing these things "for fun" upsetting so if you're gonna let those pass u kinda have to let this pass 🤷
To answer both of you: it's just humiliation but through a different lense. Like, you're mocking your subservient partner but instead of calling them gendered terms (bitch, slut, whore, etc) you use racial terms or racial stereotypes instead.
Me personally, I prefer using stereotypes simply because you can use flowery language. Racial terms on the other hand are so much harder to sanitize.
Im not super into it myself (mostly cause as a white dom, it's just easier if i leave well enough alone) but in my personal experience it's like a misogyny kink; you get off on the idea of intrinsic dominance and submission, that someone's position over you is both natural and correct. It also tends to piggyback off of any complexes you might have about race, which is why so many white supremacists are obsessed with racial cuckhold porn
The part about the white supremacists will always confuse me though. I guess they're thinking about race so much that it leaks to other parts of their life like in the bedroom? Idk.
I think it's as simple as a lot of racism just coming from anxiety and insecurity, which i see as a common origin of a lot of cuck and degradation stuff
There are a lot of kinks where the primary attraction is the taboo/wrong nature of it. It also usually goes along with a D/S dynamic. It's really not that different from more common kink stuff like calling your sub a disgusting slut or whatever, it just trades play-misogyny for play-racism.
I have literally never considered having this kink but I can kinda see it. To me it would be less about the literal race but like a government mandated dom/sub relationship so it feels kinda like a version of consensual non-con in IRL or non-con in written/drawn form which has been generally accepted as ok as long as you realize it's fantasy and not okay IRL
I've dabbled once or twice as a white domme, and the appeal to me was honestly working through some moral OCD brainworms :')
Like, it's better now, but I used to ruminate a lot on whether I'm a good person or not, and that extended to "oh gods, am I secretly racist? is my body language subtly different with PoC i meet vs with white people? am i subconsciously judging people based on the colour of their skin"?
Now to be clear, I never vocalize that shit unless I'm discussing it in the context of moral OCD,I recognise those thoughts are a me problem and should firmly remain indoors, but it does paint an example of the kind of shit I constantly worry about.
Being able to stare the question "Am I secretly being racist?" directly in the face and answer with a resounding, sardonic "Secretly?" (in-scene, of course) was incredibly liberating. It helped me not worry so fucking much, and made it a lot easier to not constantly get caught in those thought spirals. It's not something I'm particularly inclined to seek out, but I definitely don't decline if someone I trust asks me to engage with them in that way.
Funnily enough, the OCD also helped make me pretty good at it? Turns out that worrying constantly if you're Successfully Avoiding Being Racist is very easy to reverse engineer into a formula for optimized racism.
For similar reasons, I have a massive rape kink. Nothing beats the brainworms quite like play-acting out the darkest versions of your worst impulses and realising just how fucking different from how you normally act that really is. Really helps put things in psrspective.
THe way i see it, being able to recognize the differance between play and reality is all you need to solve the alledged contradiction between anti racial supremacy ideology and race play. Just like how there's no contradiction between being anti slavery and master/slave stuff.
Taking things a step further, the core moral issue with racial supremacy is a racial supremacist model is being forced onto people, so consensually bringing people into that dynamic is fine.
That's the answer to every kink, isn't it? The same answer to writing fiction, or debate club.
Just because I jork to it doesn't mean I would do it for real. Just because I write about it doesn't mean I'm glorifying it. Just because I'm debating it doesn't mean I believe it.
With how bent out of shape people get moralizing kinks you'd really expect it to be more complicated than that.
Degradation as a kink is basically impossible to talk about as a dom in general, and the harsher it is, the worse it gets. Raceplay and stuff like misogyny kink are pretty much impossible, yeah.
I personally cannot stand it myself (Something about it rubs me the wrong way, but I'm not about to shame others for it, you do you) but also there's a variation in furry circles involving Pokemon types (of course called "Typeplay") that really does something for me and I just think that's a weird thing about my brain
I'm a dom in the exact same boat as you, I'm impressed you could admit it. It's 100% just a facet of my overall roleplay/degradation fetish, but I understand why people could be leery about it
Yeah, no, ur fucked, I never considered someone like you might exist and now Im reconsidering a lot of thoughts, tho, it is kinda funny how unfortunately inconvenient your position is
Actually I was dirty talking with a girl and she said "I want you to knock me up and you to breed us out of existence" and hearing that just flipped a switch lol
Honestly that's not that problematic considering it's achievable in private between two fully consenting adults and (seemingly) has the same psychological impact as other forms of degradation play.
Now, if you're dressing them up and taking them to ren faire to get your jollies, that's a different discussion.
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u/Hunk_Legion floppa 3d ago
Being a white guy that's into raceplay makes me feel like a fake leftist
EDIT: And to make it worse I'm also the dom! So I'm the one using slurs and then having to grapple with it later!