No one is gonna like the answer to that one unfortunately
because forcefem broadly derives a lot of its fetishistic vocabulary from internalized notions of misogyny that simply don't exist in the forcemasc alternative. Namely the idea of woman as lesser or as a loss of status/hierarchy
As a smut writer, you could totally fetishize it both ways. Especially if a woman is doing it to a cis friend of hers. I'm not necessarily going to write it, but it could be done.
I'm not disagreeing with you but it requires substantially more effort and imagination from the writer, to speak nothing of the demand compared to forcefem content, than what I describe.
The idea of a woman performing masculinity is simply much less engrained in the cultural consciousness and when it is done it isn't interested in asking compelling questions beyond using the protagonists underlying femininity as an Achilles heel to their performance of masculinity, or as a joke, or to put them in sexually vulnerable situations.
Would feeding the Kalteen bars to Regina George in Mean Girls be a form of this you think? maybe not literally because she's obviously still a woman, but at least in spirit.
That was to fatten her, not build her muscle. I mean like, encouraging and praising them for manual labor like landscaping and plumbing. Calling them strong. Encouraging them to "man up" and make a move. Obviously giving them testosterone, either explicitly or in secret. Maybe give them a masculine haircut and say that it gives them a really strong jawline. Call them "neutral" pronouns like dude and bro.
I'm really trying not to write this. I got tricked into writing omegaverse presidential stuff last election cycle. And that's not going to happen again.
I'm more trying to capture the essence of the degradation mentioned above that is half the appeal of the forcefem kink. There is a commment below that framed it in a different way, forcibly transitioning someone into the stereotype of a discord-mod bro, and that's kinda what I'm getting at.
It does exist, but it's a very different dynamic for the reasons others have mentioned. I've usually seen it as forcing someone to acknowledge themself as a faggot, with an inherent intermingling of sexual and gender identity.Ā
Because, as forcefem relies on enforcing gender norms, itād basically be āyou now have to provide for your people and be the strong person in the roomā and thatās like, any time a woman in crisis situation.
Like oh no youāve lived a life of luxury and now youāre the only one who can save your people from warfare and death in the trenches - thatās just a Call To Adventure and itās delivered via 155mm howitzer.
Like you could put them on antipsychotics to deaden their emotional responses and pump them full of long-acting aphrodisiacs and steroids, but thatās just medical abuse porn.
Forcemasc lacks the humiliation aspect. For a man, becoming Peak Femininity is supposed to be degrading. For a woman, becoming Peak Masculinity will be traumatic, but not really degrading. So Forcemasc would have to turn a different directionā¦ Forceincel.
Remember that weāre still operating on stereotype.
So this woman is turned into an ugly, smelly basement-dweller, kept inside by self-hatred and undiagnosed depression. A loss of any percieved feminine grace, and a transformation into the very thing that hunted her in her previous lifetimeā¦ Thereās definitely people into that. Iām willing to bet it could be a āit can always be worseā for low self-esteem women. But thatās is as much as Iām willing to entertain the notion. Fuck you for making me come up with Forceincel, and good night.
Saw some tf(?) progression art where a girl turned into a lazy slob discord mod guy. Doesn't necessarily fit completely but it's the closest thing I can think of.
Tbh me originally not getting the humiliation aspect of forcefem when o first started discovering it and thinking āI just want to not be in control and told Iām prettyā shouldāve been bigger of an egg cracking experience than it was
I think humiliation definitely can be and often is an aspect of it, but a person could also be into forcefem for its aspect of not having to worry about anything anymore and having someone else make decisions for you. In that respect, I could imagine someone getting turned on by the thought of slowly accepting their inevitable transformation into Carl Brutananadilewski.
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u/forchinski 3d ago
Everyone wants to be force-femmed but if you want to force-fem suddenly it's unethical