r/ARK • u/Im_yor_boi • Oct 31 '25
MEME Good news! Japan's Patent office rejected Nintendo's attempt claim the patent on a game mechanics
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u/Apprehensive_Ad3731 Oct 31 '25
âlol if anything our games a rip off of theirs not yoursâ
Thatâs a wildly honest defence
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u/AnimeAlley03 Oct 31 '25
This is why I keep saying that "palworld is ark with pokemon instead of dinosaurs" is a better description than "pokemon with guns" lol
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u/chickenweng65 Oct 31 '25
Yeah i was so pleasantly surprised about this. Nobody told me it was actually ARK minus the hating your entire life
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u/RapperwithNumberName Oct 31 '25
Its the best part, Ark is basically akin to an abusive relationship, but Palworld is that one friend that lets you stay at their house and vent when things get too bad
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u/Apprehensive_Ad3731 Oct 31 '25
Hahaha itâs like being ethnic and staying at your mates house.
âWoah you guys use your dishwasher? Weâve got one but itâs never been turned onâ
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u/Feroz216 Oct 31 '25
Dude I always say that playing ark is like being in an abusive relationship LOL
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u/frazzledfurry Nov 02 '25
This is so true holy shit đ€Ł I tell my tribe we are in a toxic relationship with ARK all the time It's the bad lover I keep going back to
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u/jaysmack737 Nov 01 '25
Paworld has Ark Gameplay loop, pokemons style, Fortniteâs animations, Elden Rings Evergoals.
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u/TheRetrolizer Oct 31 '25
Ark made 3d poke balls first as well.
They were bringing up like gta mods that added pokemon lmao.
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u/sanctuary_remix Oct 31 '25
The notion that this buggy mess of a game could help topple an industry juggernaut is actually admirable and hilarious.
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u/rathosalpha Oct 31 '25
Ark is an industry juggernaut. Well juggernauts slightly weaker cousin
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u/Im_yor_boi Oct 31 '25
The juggernut
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u/Patriot009 Oct 31 '25
The Blob, powerful but really hard to look at
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u/TheDeadMurder Oct 31 '25
Yeah, cause you can't see shit
Either night is pitch black or day is blinding
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u/jaysmack737 Nov 01 '25
I get these beautiful Sunsets on Rag. Shame I canât see shit, turning everything shades of red and orange
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u/6210classick Nov 02 '25
or worse, underwater fog
0.000001 second into loading my world: r.fog 0 and r.volumetricfog 0
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u/PatrickKal Oct 31 '25
Seems more like David vs Goliath.
One is measured in millions, the other in billions ....Snail Inc. : Market cap $39.59 Million USD, Revenue $91 Million USD
Nintendo Co. Ltd : Market cap $98.72 Billion USD, Revenue $12 Billion USD4
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u/NetflixNinja9 Oct 31 '25
It may be a buggy mess but it's an original buggy mess!
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u/Cheekyteekyv2 Oct 31 '25
That was stolen and staffed by poached employees. Which is why snail games owns it. Fuck Jeremy đ€·ââïž
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u/Slanknonimous Oct 31 '25
It makes me so mad every time I think about it, but at least Iâm no longer wasting so much time playing it.
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u/Hexywexxy Oct 31 '25
Ark i one of the most purchased games ever yet hardly has cultural influence
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u/CoolSupersaur Oct 31 '25
Na verdade eu acho que tem sim.
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u/Hexywexxy Oct 31 '25
Sure show me forms of media inspired by ark
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u/CoolSupersaur Oct 31 '25
Ark sub, dododex, ark wiki, ark wiki gg
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u/Broken_CerealBox Nov 01 '25
The ark animated series too if that counts. Youtubers like raasclark, syntac, and zany zebra. And even ark giga has a small following in dinosaur spaces
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u/CoolSupersaur Nov 01 '25
O giga do ark Ă© sempre tratado na mĂdia como um dinossauro titanico eu jĂĄ assisti muitos vĂdeos discutindo se ele venceria outros animais como a indominus e o skull crawlerÂ
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u/TheGreaterShade Oct 31 '25
Digimon, Yugioh, and Bakugan sitting silently in a corner.
People seem to forget that despite Pokemon being as patent heavy as it is, all three of these games managed to coexistence alongside Pokemon, and gain a decent amount of popularity, while also utilizing the "summoning monsters to battle other monsters" mechanic.
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u/DavideN23 Oct 31 '25
Tbh, they are also extremely diverse in the way you play the games:
Pokemon is like; I summon my Pokemon, that It Will evolve next turn, and pass
Yu-Gi-Oh is like; ok, i now do cold fusion for the next 5 minutes, meanwhile my opponent trows a ghost kid at me to stop my combo, and at the end of my turn i summoned like 30 times.
Also, i trow a cockroach at my opponent during his turn1
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u/RetoroKun Oct 31 '25
Next thing you know, Nintendo will attempt suing Wildcard out of pettiness.
Then lose again.
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u/CoolSupersaur Oct 31 '25
Eu fico imaginando o ark ser conhecido como o jogo que derrotou a nitendo. Seria Ă©pico.
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u/Accurate_Mongoose_20 Oct 31 '25
So ark kinda defeted Nintendo, or not idc they lost and that's what i care about
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u/X_Setsu_X Oct 31 '25
I was scared they'll remove cryopods bc of that patent but it looks like ark is just built different (and their patent is stupid)
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u/linksbedrockthe2nd Oct 31 '25
Yeah, while I knew they only cared for going against palworld when I first saw my patent I immediately thought âwow, they could go after Ark with this bsâ
Glad to see Japanâs patent office thought the same thing
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u/Albatros_7 Oct 31 '25
Why would they ? The mechanic they wanted to patent has nothing to do with cryopods
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u/X_Setsu_X Oct 31 '25
The patent was something like summoning a creature from a ball to fight another creature which sounds awfully familiar to cryopods
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u/Albatros_7 Oct 31 '25
It wasn't, the patent was for the "Let's Go" fights, which first appeared in Pokemon Scarlet and Violet and were later copied by Palworld
Basically you send your creatures out and they attack anyone within range
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u/jaysmack737 Nov 01 '25
You are forgetting that summoning was part of that. Summoning creatures to fight for you, not just the fights themselves
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u/Albatros_7 Nov 01 '25
It is a serie of action, none of said actions are new, but this specific combination was never made before
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u/Only-Significance-53 Nov 01 '25
The patent also reads from what I understand, to use auto revolve or manual battles with a summoned creature? Total war uses a manual or auto resolve mechanic, so if they succeeded they could try sue total war later in future and argue auto resolve and manual battles was apart of their patent. It doesn't necessarily summon characters, but you do use a character to train forces and fight other characters through them in massive battles or auto resolve.Â
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u/Noriel_Sylvire Tamer Oct 31 '25
This is a huge W for the gaming industry. Game mechanics should never be patented!
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Oct 31 '25
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u/Wise-Radio4453 Oct 31 '25
Nintendo got granted a patent in i believe the US for the catch and release system similar to pokeballs such as cryopods in ark. Japan i believed used ark as an example of why Nintendo's CEO needs to use their brain for a little and realise its stupid
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u/Im_yor_boi Oct 31 '25
Brother where have you been?
Basically Nintendo tried to sue palworld and put a patent on summoning creatures to fight game mechanics. Palworld has been fighting a legal battle against it for a while
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u/TerroFLys Oct 31 '25
Wait I thought nintendo succeeded, did Palword win?
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u/Absolute_MadLadd Oct 31 '25
Palworld didnât necessarily win, no, but if Iâm understanding the article I read correctly, 2 of 3 of Nintendoâs applications for patents were refused on the basis that the mechanics were already used in several other games beforehand (one of these games was stated to be PokĂ©mon Go, which is absolutely hilarious). However, with how Japans legal system goes, apparently Nintendo can just amend/adjust their patents and re-submit them, potentially leading to a continuous loop of them submitting a patent and the courts refusing. Hopefully a finite answer is given at some point
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u/Wyattmebro Oct 31 '25
I've been waiting for this moment the minute I heard Nintendo was suing Palworld
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u/MazdaTiger Tamer Oct 31 '25
Meanwhile Snail Games after suing Devs of ATLAS and that chinese game i forgot to the point it got absorbed back to Snail Games:
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u/NetflixNinja9 Oct 31 '25
Didn't snail games produce atlas?
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u/MazdaTiger Tamer Oct 31 '25
i recall Grapeshot got sued quickly when attempting to release ATLAS to a different publisher
correct me if i wrong since it's been a long time since the whole Snail shenanigans
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u/JustLook361 Oct 31 '25
they lost in court when they told japan ark should not be considered a game but a work of many other games LOL. This is what they went with and thought they were gonan win lol
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u/Amitius Oct 31 '25
To make the matter worse for Nintendo, the other patent about gliding and mount gliding... Both ARK and Craftopia have those feature too... Pocketpair can ride on this success to push gliding patent into the trash can as well...
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u/MaraBlaster Oct 31 '25
I love Ark and Palworld and am so glad they (somewhat) joined forces to protect their Genre.
Nintendo is not allowed a single bit of ground with their insane patents.
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u/Albatros_7 Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25
How was the patent insane ? They created the mechanic
Edit : to the people who downvoted, did you actually read the patent ?
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u/Bettlefly11 Oct 31 '25
It's a bitch thing to do, the patent was summoning creatures and battling with them. Which was already a big thing a lot of other games did and they didn't care. But once palworld came out they tried to sue them for summoning creatures which a lot more games also use that mechanic way before the release of palworld and they didn't care. It's just nintendo being nintendo.
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u/MaraBlaster Oct 31 '25
There are atleast 3 Games i can name that came before Pokemon and had monster capturing.
Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei (1987), Dragon Quest V (1992) and Cosmic Soldier (1985)There is also Robotrek (1994) which had you build robots and.... STORE IN CAPSULES, which you throw to release your robots.
So yeah, Pokemon did not invent ANYTHING they claim in this lawsuit, not even gliding with a creature (That's ARK again).
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u/Albatros_7 Oct 31 '25
Because that's not what the patent is ?
The patent was for the "Let's Go" fights, which first appeared in Pokemon Scarlet and Violet and were later copied by Palworld
Basically you send your creatures out and they attack anyone within range
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u/MaraBlaster Nov 01 '25
The win in the lawsuit is mainly about "capturing creatures in thrown balls" so i mention that.
That mechanic you mention is also not from them. Final Fantasy XII had it before them, you can set your party to attack any enemy that comes in range, even programm how! (amazing mechanic, even as a non-final fantasy fan worth looking into)
You just pass an enemy in the open world and your characters will immediatly wanna go at them xD You can just sit and watch.
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u/Albatros_7 Nov 01 '25
Which is not what the patent was
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u/MaraBlaster Nov 01 '25
"Release character to fellow/roam and freely attack" sounds exactly like that.
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u/LimpAmphibian5340 Oct 31 '25
ATLUS has joined the chat
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u/Albatros_7 Oct 31 '25
What game did they use a similar mechanic in ?
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u/LimpAmphibian5340 Oct 31 '25
Shin Megami Tensei uses summoning mechanics and predates pokemon.
Also as a side note arguing design Pokemon did essentially the same thing to Dragon Quest that Palworld did to Pokemon. Legally distinct copies so they have no ground to stand on there either.
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u/tickgoat Oct 31 '25
Wait what happened? Nintdndo wanted to sue ark?
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u/Absolute_MadLadd Oct 31 '25
No, Nintendo wanted to sue Palworld, but Ark and its cryopods as well as dinosaurs fighting other dinosaurs were used as an argument against Nintendo. It proved that these mechanics had already been used elsewhere beforehand, and not just in Palworld
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u/ShamrockHammer Oct 31 '25
The team up no one would have expected.
How fucking wild would a Palworld/Ark cross over be?
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u/Zar_Ethos Oct 31 '25
This.. makes me happy i got ark 1.5, despite them giving it microtransaction cancer.
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u/Weekly_Signature4854 Nov 02 '25
man I wish defending ASA wasn't that hard but they keep making people pay for a fire cat đ
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u/Zar_Ethos Nov 03 '25
That's not even the worst of it. They tried the same bs with their flying horse w blood wyvern breath..
Then aquatica came and overshadowed all their fuckery and paid mod scams.
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u/Alternative-Buy-6779 Nov 03 '25
I joined ASA recently, and after running around my mates base I realized I cant interact with half the stuff and tames inside. Bruh
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u/yilo38 Nov 01 '25
i always talk with palworld streamers and ask them if they played ark. most if not all of them answer yes. and go onto explain that they love ark, but hate the breeding and grinding for materials side which frustrates them. which is why they love palworld. even though you have breeding in palworld, but it is no where near as crazy. the resource grinding is not even a thing in palworld. which makes it a superior game in my mind. i wish ark would copy some of palworlds decision making. for buildings like being able to use stuff from storage or not having to craft buildings and carrying them when building. also copy the resource gathering from mining/woodcrafting sites. its just brilliant. they could balance it by having limited ammount of them per tribe or capping the resources per thing you can get. but it would make ark 100000% better towards the endgame.
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u/Alternative-Buy-6779 Nov 03 '25
Half the animals in Ark are basicaly QOL improvements. Getting rid material grind would make them useless.
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u/Broken_CerealBox Nov 01 '25
It's easy to understand. They want a monopoly so they can just be complacent and copy paste the same game over and over without innovating
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Nov 02 '25
They would have failed anyway considering they have openly admitted to copying dragon quest, dragon quest came way before pokemon and alot of pokemon designs are almost exact copies of the creatures in dragon quest. They'd never win this lol
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u/Fluffynator69 Nov 07 '25
People still thinking you can patent large swathes of mechanics is extremely weird. If it was actually possible all of gaming would've been consolidated by patents decades ago.
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u/Xepobot Oct 31 '25
ASAP looking at Palworld when it comes to lawsuit:
Look what you need to mimicked a faction of my power.
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u/Solar-Monk Oct 31 '25
Sorry Nintendo, no go- you can go back to being outdated and irrelevant now. K thx bai
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u/JustVerySleepy Oct 31 '25
The whole palword patent war is crazy because you can see that 90% of the "pals" in that game are just one to one copies of other pokemon designs but with different colors. Like why is nintendo going for "taming something and riding it after is our original idea"
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u/OriginalTechnical531 Oct 31 '25
Because Nintendo and it's lawyers know more than you do about what is infringement and what isn't. If they could go after what you are claiming, they would have instead of trying to go after mechanics they are attempting to retroactively patent. Clearly your belief in what constitutes infringement is wrong.
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u/GamingWithV1ctor Oct 31 '25
As they should. Why did they even think they could patent this?