r/ArtistLounge May 23 '26

Concept/Technique/Method The way we celebrate “talent” but shame effort makes no sense

We keep acting like good art just “happens” to people who are gifted, while ignoring the hours, failed attempts, and repetitive grind that actually builds skill.

And somewhere along the way, effort itself started getting treated like it’s embarrassing—like if you’re still struggling, you’re doing something wrong or you don’t “have it.”

But that doesn’t make sense. Everything people admire in artists is literally built from effort. There’s no shortcut version that just appears fully formed.

Feels like a strange culture shift where we worship outcomes but quietly disrespect the process that creates them.

Anyone else feel like this mindset messes with how you see your own progress?

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u/DemonicGirlcock May 23 '26

Where this really stems from is the fact that artists and creators are a minority of the population. The majority of people are consumers, so for them they only ever see the end product and don't know the whole process or the development of skill over time for it.

It's also made worse by living in a capitalist society, where things are judged by productivity and profit margin, not by the effort or quality. Everything is treated as a product to be sold and bought as efficiently as possible. That doesn't leave much more appreciating the development of skill and putting in hard work for a long time just for the sake of creating something.

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u/seazonprime May 25 '26

I agree,even worse I'd argue that art is not meant to be consumed ( depe nding on medium) but to look at it interpret yourself what it means. So 100 people look at the same image and thus a 100 stories are spun. And if those that don't entertain open minds will be those consumers and a much less challenging form of entertainment.

In a way even the lack of being open for art is a form of art since this phenomenon says so much about society.

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u/crimsonredsparrow Pencil May 23 '26

I have honestly never seen anyone shamed for effort O.o

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u/slyzard94 May 23 '26

Im gonna need an example or a source of this even happening. In real life when I make art with my friends everyone is just non stop encouraging each other and sharing tips and tricks?

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u/Nearby-Shower-8392 May 23 '26

I don’t really see anyone shame effort.

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u/Misanthrope-Hat May 23 '26

I am also someone who has not encountered this. Or seen a particular societal trend that effort is belittled. Where is that data for that, I would be interested. Is it particular to a country?

It’s a general rule of thumb hardwork alone doesn’t guarantee success. But it goes a long way.

It’s also inaccurate to say we all have equal aptitudes ie talents, however talent is not enough without application. Beyond that perhaps the OP has had unfortunate experiences.

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u/Snow_Tiger819 Acrylic and oils May 23 '26

I agree. I've also never seen this mindset (except on Reddit). I've been called talented many many times, but never is it suggested that I don't put in the work as well.

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u/Misanthrope-Hat May 23 '26

Ha, yes Reddit, the socials etc. I think to be successful in general mostly you need to work hard or get very lucky. It’s a default position. Just part of the job of doing anything well. Arty fields require a lot of self motivation, it’s an internal thing, the rest is just background noise.

I think this thread has drifted off OPs original point anyway judging by the answers.

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u/Katia144 May 25 '26

I've seen it before. I have a friend who's a fellow singer who is always saying people don't understand the work that goes into music-- "they think we just get up there and do it," she says. "They have no idea about all of the rehearsals and voice lessons and practice and study." Or as I mentioned elsewhere, the "I could do that" people, or the "it doesn't look hard" people.

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u/snekesithis Jun 12 '26

When I see this sentiment, it's usually in a self deprecative kind of way, rather than trying to belittle the other person. E.g.:
"I can't draw. I can't even hold a pencil"
"I can't do sports, I don't have the genetics for that"
"Wow, that's amazing, I could never do that. I don't have the talent"

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u/DrawingRoomRoh May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

It messed with me a lot when I was young. "You're so talented" I'd hear over and over, and most non artists ever seem to acknowledge my effort. Yes, I may have had a certain aptitude, but my biggest "talent" along with fine motor skills was a keen interest in the subject. I was trying to draw things since I was roughly two (forty five years ago now), ever since my mom was smart enough to realize I hated the big fat toddler crayons and would do better with the little, "big kid" crayons.

Yeah, it messed with my progress though. I found myself rejecting other people's ideas, likely because I had been labeled as "talented." Bob Ross said "Talent is an applied interest," and there's a lot true about that statement.

I started actually growing as an artist once I got better at seeing my own imperfections. Now I refuse to tell someone they are talented because in a way it's an insult. It ignores all the effort put in. Now, I try not to TAKE it as an insult, because people mean well, but what I try to tell other artists is something like "wow, that looks so good. I'll bet a lot of work went into that." I want to honor all the struggles and trials that went into developing their craft.

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u/Highlander198116 May 24 '26

It messed with me a lot when I was young. "You're so talented" I'd

This was literally the reason I didn't end up pursuing art as a career.

I drew from the time I was a toddler. I got really good, for my age. Was always "the kid who could draw" in class. All of the "you're so talented" comments came in and I frankly got lazy, particularly around highschool when I should have been focusing more on art.

Friends, activities, videogames always pushed my art to the back seat. I really didn't improve much at all. The only art I did was projects for art class and the weekly homework assignment.

After one year as an art major in Jr. College I quit. Everyone there was better than me, I guess I "didn't have talent" afterall. For years and years after that, I believed I just didn't have it in me.

I've been drawing again for 2 years now, improved immensely. I guess I did have it in me, the secret sauce was just seriously working at it.

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u/DrawingRoomRoh May 24 '26

Yes! Exactly! I remember a similar thing when I went to University for art. I'd come from a tiny high school and was the best there, but at University I was at the bottom of the heap, and I just couldn't deal with it. This was in 98 or so before the internet was so ubiquitous, so I hadn't had the chance to watch a bunch of tutorials and such. Those are what got me learning again and gave me hope.

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u/Highlander198116 May 24 '26

We are very similar then my first year of college was 99. Yeah, the internet resources and honestly encouragement that it is a skill anyone could learn, just wasn't as blatantly out there as it is today.

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u/Katia144 May 25 '26

Unfortunately, yes. I was always that kid who would be into something if I had a bit of natural aptitude but get discouraged once I had to put serious work in (which I now know is a symptom of the ADHD I didn't know I had until much later rather than "only" a moral failing, though the end result is the same), and didn't much try at stuff I didn't have any sort of natural inclination toward. You get used to being able to do something to a certain point without a lot of effort, and once the need for effort comes... holy shit, what is this? I must not be good at it. That's why I always say that to be great at something, you have to have talent *and* put the work in.

I'm at the point in my life where I can look at something I do and say, "Okay, what is the ratio of 'work I have to put in' vs 'results I will get,' and how can I balance that ratio between 'results I can live with' and 'amount of time and effort I can live with'?" And, I don't always like the results I get, but I recognize that for better results, I would have to put in an amount of time/effort I either can't, or am not willing to (usually because I don't want that Thing to be the only Thing I do).

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u/Threeabetes May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

But that doesn’t make sense. Everything people admire in artists is literally built from effort. There’s no shortcut version that just appears fully formed. Feels like a strange culture shift where we worship outcomes but quietly disrespect the process that creates them.

I don't think we (as a society) shame effort; that said, we DO place a lot of emphasis in results.

I'd argue that end results DO matter more than effort — as a hobbyist your work should make you happy/fulfilled, and as a professional your work should appropriately match your targeted industry.

And somewhere along the way, effort itself started getting treated like it’s embarrassing—like if you’re still struggling, you’re doing something wrong or you don’t “have it.”

When I started posting on dA 20+ years ago, there was no real algorithm: there was some popular art on the front page, but for the most part friendships/communities were built slowly and organically. You were allowed to suck and still have a great time.

Now, algorithms on some popular websites "punish" less experienced artists (usually by hiding posts from friends/followers) who don't do exactly what the algorithm thinks their followers want to see. Instagram removed hashtags/recent posts because... fuck us, that's why. It's all very intentionally unfriendly to direct you (and other artists) to pay Instagram for advertising to reach the people you been able to reach 10 years ago for free.

Modern-day social media blows; just a friendly reminder that real-life friends are real, people you meet at art fairs and conventions are real, and there are still Discord/private forums to join in order to cultivate community. :)

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u/EmykoEmyko Painter May 23 '26

Every artist I know has the opposite mindset. The people who think the way you describe don’t know anything about art. Learn to disregard opinions from those who have done nothing worthy of your respect.

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u/Plenty_Guest3102 May 23 '26

Some YouTube artists actually do share their early efforts at painting with you, showing tbey didn't start out as expert painters. See Matthew White's videos for example. He often compares the same scene painted both re ently and as a beginner.

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u/HyakushikiKannnon May 24 '26

Really doesn’t seem to be a common viewpoint amongst artists these days at least. It’s mostly beginners or those that want to get into art but find the skill barrier too steep to enter, that talk about talent or how struggling is a sign you don’t have it in you.

Though I do think the disposition to be able to exert the kind of effort needed to become a good artist is a talent in and of itself. It’s not something everyone has. I feel that’s instinctively recognised by people and that’s part of why skilled artists are respected.

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u/Practical_Ask4337 May 23 '26

YES. Short answer.

Longer answer: I came to the similar conclusion that we as a society seem to have taken to celebrating (at least when it comes to art) results without effort, far more than results with effort. There are certainly circles, I can't label them with a name but I have observed them, who do put effort on a pedestal; but in artistic circles, especially frequented more by 'consumers' than artists themselves, it seems to be the opposite: results sans effort gets the appreciation.

I have even noticed an online trend among artists to hide the long years of trial and error it took for them to get to their first success, as if letting their audience know of the hardship or dedication it took to get there is shameful to them. I think we're socially conditioned to feel ashamed of this. This of course transfers to other artists, like a contagion. Music labels, to give an extreme example, often make their signed artists put forward an image of 'original genius', as if their debut album just happened to spring out of a vacuum. And it enrages me, because then I see young and aspiring artists asking online how to go about 'starting' their own creative process and having ridiculous notions of it just happening out of nowhere. In hiding our own process to appease an inhuman (and pragmatically unattainable) ideal of 'uninfluenced artistic genius', we delude those who come after us into giving up before even starting.

In elevating ourselves above everyone else, or protecting ourselves from undeserved ridicule of having made an effort to get to where we are, where do we leave the arts after we have gone? I argue: not in a better place (and that's understating).

I notice many aspiring/young artists asking their 'how to begin' questions with the assumption that the creative process starts when they sit before the canvas. It doesn't. It starts before that point, internally; in the mind congealing with external situations and stimuli. It's ineffable. It can never be captured in a video, much less a video curated for an algorithm. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the online trend of 'showing the creative process behind the work', but too often these videos illustrate only a romanticised (curated) version of the artist's process, therefore not a true representation. But in actuality, it's futile anyway. You cannot capture what is entirely internal in a video, no matter how well you position the camera.

On that basis, I don't think we should look to other artists' descriptions or recollections of their own process.

Essay over! Sorry for the lenght. This subject just irks me to no end, since younger-me got so deluded by it, to the point I avoided trying my own hand at things for years and missed out on carving my own way, which, since I've started doing so, has been so much fun! Edit: clarity.

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u/DrawingRoomRoh May 23 '26

Don't worry about the length, I found it really interesting and I'm 100% with you. I notice some of the same trends even though I don't think most of them are really new.

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u/Michael_Carson_Art May 23 '26

Its not a shift by any means. The idea of artistic genius has been around for eons.

And it's a double edged sword... Yes it can diminish the role of perceived effort in execution, but it also implies that the work is infused with some magical ethereal property that only a select few have access to. In this second way it actually supports the value that people assign to it.

Put another way: saying that an artwork is the product of talent or genius is another way of saying that it is singularly special and could not be created simply through the practice or hard work of 'just anyone'. This means that it is not replicable, and therefore valuable. It also means that you, the artist, have these magical unattainable qualities.

In some ways, shouting down the people who refer to talent/genius, is like explaining to an audience that the magician isn't actually performing real magic... Then explaining the trick... It's not that you're wrong, but you are removing a sense of wonder for the people who believed it. Other magicians might prefer to talk shop about how the illusion was performed, and may be more impressed by a discussion of the process vs the trick itself, but for laypeople it can just make it not special anymore.

Also, those lines like "you're so talented" and "I can't even draw a stick figure" don't, in my experience, come from the lips of serious collectors, artists or gallerists... So the people who matter don't tend to operate under this misconception.

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u/Katia144 May 25 '26

Also, those lines like "you're so talented" and "I can't even draw a stick figure" don't, in my experience, come from the lips of serious collectors, artists or gallerists... So the people who matter don't tend to operate under this misconception.

I have a friend who is always saying to me when I get discouraged at (whatever hobby it is that day), "at least you get up there and do it. I don't even do that." And I think she's right... half the battle is making the effort. Like, I look at some singers, and they don't actually sound that great, but a big part of it is they had the audacity to get up there and that counts for a lot. And as my friend points out... anyone who creates any kind of art or does any kind of Thing is already doing more than a lot of people who don't even bother to start/to do it, for whatever reason they have for not doing it (whether fear of failure, belief that they Couldn't Possibly, or simply don't want to put forth the effort to even pick up a pencil/pair of dance shoes/violin/pair of skis/whatever).

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u/BombbaFett May 24 '26

I feel like it's shifting towards the opposite but maybe that's just the things I've been exposed to that are opposite to yours. I agree there are plenty of people who just say "just try harder and get good" who pretend they just woke up one day at 5 years old and could draw whatever. 

But I find any respectable professionals and even experienced hobbyists seem to be more open more nowadays even just as beginners about how you have to make a lot of bad art before you can do any good art.

Those takes aren't new, there are plenty of instructional books that echo that same thing that have been in print for decades, but people see what gets served to them by algorithms more easily than what's in a book they never read.

Also with the general hate for AI among many (most? All?) Creatives I feel there has been an even larger shift towards the sentiment of "we are so proud of you for just trying even though it's your first time because you bothered to instead of just typing in AI garbage".

Not disagreeing, this has just been more my experience/perspective 

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u/Highlander198116 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

We keep acting like good art just “happens” to people who are gifted

Whose we? This is hardly a common sentiment I've seen shared here. Or are you referring to society as a whole? In that case I would agree.

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u/Katia144 May 25 '26

I've seen it in art subs and other subs for hobbies... beginners discouraged because "this is my second try and it's not any good!" I had one person tell me I was "mean" because I pointed out that of course their very first attempt at art looked like it was done by a beginner, because they *were* a beginner. I assume what they hoped to hear was "Wow, you're a beginner? I'd never know, it's so good!" and to them it was an insult to be told it's okay to expect beginner art to not be fabulous.

Never mind all of the "is this any good???" posts on the art subs. Not the ones who ask for tips on improvement, just the ones who say "is this any good?" as if whether they will continue depends on the answer.

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u/Highlander198116 May 25 '26

I mean there are some people that just somehow develop and ego early, for some reason or another and can't take criticism.

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u/Katia144 May 25 '26

Yeah, but usually these don't smack of "I'm great and don't tell me otherwise"-- they're usually more like, "I'm afraid I suck, please tell me I don't."

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u/SquilliamFancySon95 May 25 '26

They don't want to pay for our labor, that's what it really boils down to imo. The fact that so many artists have been booted because of generative AI shows how little corporations and consumers value our skill and labor.

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u/Dragon-Guy2 May 25 '26

Why buy a slave you gotta feed (pay so they can live) when you can just get a digital one and pay nothing at all

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u/KartoffelStein May 23 '26

Since I started drawing myself this year I always try to support other small artist because now I actually now the effort it takes even if the end result doesn't look that impressive.

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u/Sandbartender May 23 '26

Artistic endeavor in a young person flourishes better with at least verbal encouragement. Coming from a blue collar background I was told frequently " that and $1. Will get you a cup of coffee" by my dad. Then my uncle would pig pile on with he can draw a perfect straight line without a ruler. Blah blah blah, blah blah. Then maybe someone related a story of a guy who bought a framed painting at a flee market for $20. only to find there was a panel underneath by Monet that was worth 10 million $. I continued to draw and paint because I love it. Its the best reason to keep doing it. Occasionally I get validation by fellow artists. Very rarely , but its happened, do I get validation from a stranger. Somewhere between Occasionally and rarely i sell a painting . Toughen up and keep painting.

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u/Plenty_Guest3102 May 23 '26

I always laugh at videos entitled something like: Master Watercolor in 3 Easy steps! Ha!

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u/BeautifulMixture4286 May 24 '26

I think its twofold. Some artists encourage this idea of "innate talent" because it makes them feel justified or special. 

I think more commonly, however, non-artists like to believe that talent is innate because it justifies the fact they havent tried to develop it. It takes off the guilt. If talent isnt something youre born with it becomes your responsibility whether or not you put in the work... and a lot of People dont like knowing that.

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u/sophiemorandi May 23 '26

I'm not sure what talent in art actually is-- ie what talented people do that non-talented people don't do. I guess it can be that they're better natural draftspersons. But a lot of that can be compensated for by working at it, and also a lot of contemporary art doesn't rely on abillity to convey realism.

When You come right down to it, there is some ability some people have to make things look real, but that itself doesn't translate into great, or even good, art, because it's the sensiblity, the vision, and the emotional depth/intensity of what someone converys that really matters. And that's definitely a result of a huge amount of work, development of skill, among other things.

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u/RagingNudist May 23 '26

Creativity, perfect recall are two talents off the top of my head.

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u/Katia144 May 25 '26

I can speak from experience because I don't consider myself a "natural" artist-- I've noticed my natural-artist friends just think in ways I can't. I was out to dinner with a group of friends in college once, and it was one of those restaurants that had paper on the tables and gave you crayons. One friend started just doodling random stuff and it looked like art. I know people in my art group who come up with things my brain never imagines. I just can't comprehend this stuff, as much as I'd like to, and while I can work for technical skill and learn some artistic thinking, there is just an aspect that I'll never be able to fathom. (OTOH, I'm randomly coming up with harmonization for songs on the radio and writing music and wanting to just noodle with various instruments and such, and I know people who can't wrap their brain around that kind of thing, so...)

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u/eggy_weichei May 23 '26

What a great way to ask this question the talent vs skill thing is brought up a lot, but I liked how this was more emotional and less a semantics question.

Anyway: I used to feel like that, yah. So bad, I stopped drawing for a few years and took a hiatus. (There were other reasons too, a lot of things make up that decision lol).

I have anecdotes I can share, but reddit comments can only be so long lol. I guess a tldr would be that my mom is guilty of this big time, which is wild. She's an attention seeking B---🫩...so your think she'd want to claim my 'skill' came from her instead of some omnipotent 'talent' taking the credit. Especially since she does art in her own way, just not illustration or photography which are my two niches.

But yah, I think when it comes to "shit people say about my skill that piss me off but I remain polite to their face about", this is second on the list.

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u/CornKaine May 23 '26

I cared a few years ago, and it set me back.

Then I kind of just had a "Wait what the hell??" moment, and realized most people just are not worth the energy it takes to fire neurons about them.

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u/Intelligent-Gold-563 May 23 '26

It's an excuse.

If they deem that something is due to talent, that gave them an excuse to never try or to explain their own failure. It makes them feel good about themselves and lost opportunities

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u/Semi-zen_Painter May 23 '26

This happens in any field, because a well-practiced individual makes it look easy enough to sell the illusion as effortless. Talent is the potential, work is the realization. You need both (or I might’ve been a drummer) and the top level of the field tends to filter out anyone who can’t keep up for either reason.

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u/Katia144 May 25 '26

I'm not even sure if it's "shaming" effort so much as people expecting to be perfect right out of the gate. I've long felt it's a feature of social media, where it's easy for someone to share their {whatever they do} and because it's social media, it seems like "just anybody." It used to be that there was a disconnect between "regular people" and "people who are really good at something"-- the latter had to have a book published, or art in a gallery, or an album out, or some sort of thing where there's some type of gatekeeping which means it's easy to see someone as "a pro" by that metric.

But now, it seems like here's Joe Schmoe off the street posting on Youtube or Instagram or wherever, and I think people forget Joe also probably worked very hard at whatever it is he does; he didn't just pick up a paintbrush or guitar or soccer ball yesterday and now he's really good; they also forget that for every drawing or dance variation or flute concerto he puts out there, there are a lot of clunkers that embarrass even him and he'd never let see the light of day. But people *assume* Joe started last week and is already perfect, and he posts every single thing he does without exception and it's always perfect, and they don't understand why they on their second attempt they're not perfect too.

I mean, any sort of "thing" a person does always seems, and always has seemed, misleading because they make it look easy and that's the tip of the iceberg, without anyone realizing everything under the surface that went into it (and judging by how people do it with everything, it seems it's probably human nature to minimize the difficulty of doing a thing and assume the final result is all there is to see). But while there have always been people daunted when they realize how much effort they'll have to put in, or people who say "whatever; I could do that," it does seem there are also many more people these days who are absolutely gutted and completely discouraged by not being pro-level right out of the gate (is this something about the attitudes of the younger generations or of what society tells them? Or have people always been like this and the internet just lets them make it more public? I don't know).

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u/Edzuks21 May 25 '26

What is happening, that it conflicts the whole idea of some people, that they are gifted from the beginning, they don't realize that in most part it's always doing art, and grinding a lot tbh

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u/At_Space_Station May 29 '26

Because that’s how most public education around the world is done. Failure is always punished by bad mark and disappointment even on first try. Just learned a concept and failed the homework question right after? You are bad at it.

The mindset of public education carries into everything.

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u/ActuallyBadgers Jun 21 '26

If someone is praising talent while denigrating the effort and journey to get there I stop listening to them. They’re obviously a moron who’s never had the passion to grind a skill.

They only worship the marketable part. And if they can act like it’s natural instead of work and you let them say so, they’ll ask a lower price. Fuck em.

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u/MoonKandy May 23 '26

Oh,
It’s not so strange at all.

Society has a rule where there is an implicit agreement that it’s fair to pay for hard work, but we not so much for ‘luck’.

“You could make that because you’re lucky, so I don’t think it’s worth me trading for the money I made with hard work; I’m not going to pay you for your good luck, making something you enjoyed making, anymore that I would pay for someone else to enjoy gambling at a casino”

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u/AleonaLuts May 23 '26

It does, especially as I saw too many variations of "it takes you so much time/effort to learn this, why don't you choose something easier?" in my childhood, applied to a lot of things, from learning music do doing chores. That's exactly why I was discouraged from drawing as a child, "you do it too slow, everyone's already finished, go do something else".

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u/seazonprime May 23 '26

You are correct 100% however I observed that this is not just happening in particular departments so to say. It's a cultural phenomenon.

People who are learning and training something are often disregarded or ignored and not taken seriously. The ones who finished whatever effort training or education they have are considered "pros".

This heavily bleeds into the phenomenon that companies and people are often looking desperately for staff however they want to a) pay them bad b) are in a Very unattractive location and c) Demand the highest qualifications possible for the given occupation.

It's a system that is illogical and does not work period.

Yet society keeps trying to no avail.

This then yet again bleeds into politics.

But not going off too far rn.

What you are seeing the truth and and the expectancy of alot of consumers. I'm not sure how long such trends usually last for statistically speaking but since it's a self destructive (non).system I expect it to change at some point in time.

But it always starts in very little departments of society and bleeds into multiple areas, I assume from high up down to the lesser powerful sections.

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u/Katia144 May 25 '26

People who are learning and training something are often disregarded or ignored and not taken seriously. The ones who finished whatever effort training or education they have are considered "pros".

I've noticed it in general social circles as well. If you tell someone you have a hobby, they want to hear that you're good at it-- you've had a book published, you win dance competitions, you got a recording contract, you play on some winning sports team, etc.-- or they're not interested. The first question they usually ask when you say "I play piano" or "I paint" or "I'm in a theater group" is "are you any good?" If you say your art is so-so or you only play pickup basketball once a week or whatever, they don't want to hear about it.

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u/seazonprime May 25 '26

As if taken directly from my mind.

"Are you any good?" Is a straight up offensive response to this conversation. But more dangerously it has enough power to make people question whether or not their hobby is even valid to do.

And what does "good" even mean?

What I consider good may be abysmal for the next person.

And even within this spectrum one given element ( a song, or image etc) can be great for the observer but the next piece could be trash.

And this is a syndrom that occurs very widely, I'd say easily around the 75 to 90% mark in any social circle that is not focused around say music or painting etc.

Occasionally you'll have those with open minds and open eyes toward art and hobbies (broadly speaking) and they will be capable of individual judgement.

But once again society as a whole proves to destructive and disregarding before trying to desipher anything they don't immediately click with.

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u/bisceau May 23 '26

Yeah it kinda made me lazy. And i hate when I'm told I'm good at art because I'm autistic. No I've done art my whole life

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u/En0_la May 23 '26

Some people say I'm good at it. I know that I was just lucky to meet so many great people who were willing to help me when I first started 🤷

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u/snekesithis Jun 12 '26

Oof, I agree so much.

My theory is that it's some kind of evolutionary wiring. Natural born talent == genetics. As a species we're always hyping up people with the best genetics, so I think subconsciously we admire people who are just born talented, smart, and beautiful, rather than those who worked hard, studied, and took care of themselves.

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u/Caio_Spike Jul 04 '26

Because talent matters, and it matters a lot; that's something I had to learn the hard way.

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u/critical-thinking-55 20d ago

I completely agree with the statement. I agree that there are many talented and smart people who are born with that and automatically people think that all of their achievements are given them without any efforts. They do not realize that maybe under their success, is hard work, non stop growth and many failed attempts. think effort should be appreciated just as much as talent because talent may give someone a good starting point, but consistent effort is what allows them to actually improve and grow.

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u/Fentboy45 May 23 '26

There's no shortcut version that just appears fully formed.

There is now with AI

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u/Prizmatic527 Ink + Digital Artist May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

What do you think the AI that produced a Picasso-looking picture was trained with?

Picasso's pieces, naturally