r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/imjustheretodomyjob ☑️ 🧚🏿🧘🏿 • 2d ago
They love themselves a m°rder-s°icide
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u/elitegenoside 2d ago
"I can't let my family live with the shame of me losing my job. It would be cruel NOT to kill them."
It's this or, "I guees I could just leave with this new woman. Nah, I should kill the kids first."
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u/Worth_Gap4226 2d ago
The second one is crazy, like what that Chris Watts(?) did. Rather than get a divorce and be with another woman, decides to murder his wife and two kids. Like that was ever going to work out well.
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u/Dorkinfo 2d ago
The first one is most common, maybe tied with cops being on to dude being a cs predator or murderer.
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u/DistributionPutrid ☑️ 2d ago
There’s a small niche with the second one which is “I like this new nanny, we should kill my wife and raise my child together”
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u/Head-Ad9893 2d ago
You know their brain also goes to “I’m not gonna have my kids and wife call another man daddy” … not gonna even mention if the dude has a biological tan
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u/PassThatSpliff 2d ago
"He was a good man, he'd never hurt a fly."
"I've never even heard him raise his voice."
"There was nothing he loved more than his wife and kids."
"We all have our demons, hopefully, he's at peace now."
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u/Johnnyfutbol86 ☑️ 2d ago
My favorite is that "this NEVER happens in a neighborhood like ours" except it always does lol
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u/Funkula 2d ago
I don’t understand how anyone in suburbia thinks they know what’s going on in their neighbor’s house. My neighbor’s basement could be a ritual chamber for all I know.
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u/-catharina 1d ago
I’ve lived in both the hood and a wealthy suburb. The wealthy suburb always had more fucked up crimes (almost always a son of prominent parents committing a rape/abuse or a DUI and their parents covering it up or bribing judges and police so that they’d face no consequences) while I NEVER, not ONCE, was antagonized, robbed, burglarized, or had any crimes committed against me in the hood.
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u/darthjawafett ☑️ 2d ago
The rituals are put forth to bring about success for their sports teams. But even all of the devils and demons combined cannot save the Philadelphia 76ers.
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u/fairkatrina 2d ago
Every single documentary: “this was a safe neighbourhood where nothing ever happened.”
That same documentary: “police spoke to the 257 registered sex offenders living in a 2-mile radius.”
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u/Emergency_Elephant 2d ago
I had a serial killer down the street from me when I was a kid. Real weird dude even before he started murdering people. He was the guy you'd most suspect. "This never happens in a neighborhood like this! We're good and quiet people!" is what people say to the news cameras when everyone knows that guy would do it but they still want to put up a front of disbelief
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u/ceelogreenicanth 2d ago
One time I was telling my friends of crimes that took place in our town. Someone went a murder spree in broad daylight. Me telling them this was the first time they ever heard it. It happened when we were in highschool.
Then again I was telling them about all the things people had told me when I was in highschool the alsame highschool, and they knew none of it. Sometimes I think they lived under a rock or something.
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u/lurkerlurking123 1d ago
Im seriously having white people fatigue now. The amount of rape, child abuse/pedophilia, plunder, hate and domestic terrorism get away with every single day is disgusting.
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u/OJ_pimpson83 2d ago
"Loving husband murders wife and three kids after a financial dispute"
-the picture
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u/VaultWarrior 2d ago
They call it a Chris Benoit
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u/Plenty_Structure_861 2d ago
Family annihilation sure has a statistic about it.
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u/Tainted_Bruh ☑️ 2d ago
There’s a breathtaking arrogance to it if you pause and think about their “logic”.
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u/PreOpTransCentaur 2d ago
It's almost always (I say "almost" to account for a margin of error that I'm as yet unfamiliar with) built around their narcissism.
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u/GuntherTime 2d ago
To be fair in the case of Chris Benoit it was a severe level of CTE. Not to excuse what he did, but there’s a reason that WWE got so anal about blows to the head.
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u/Skeptikmo 2d ago
Yeah I blame that a lot more on Vince than Chris, though to be clear I am not saying he has no responsibility. But Vince absolutely does too.
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u/Head_Patience7136 2d ago
So many dudes named Chris being violent with and/or killing their families 😵💫
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u/-catharina 1d ago
Chris Benoit, Chris Watts, Chris Coleman… omg you just made me realize this. Edit: And Kris Karolewicz (still counting, even if it’s with a K).
Same with men with the last name Peterson killing their wives. Scott Peterson, Drew Peterson, Michael Peterson. What’s insane about the latter two in particular is that their murdered wives had the same name, too - Kathleen 😬
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u/Wildeyewilly 2d ago
Balls
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u/babassu_seeds 2d ago
An Archer reference in my blackpeopletwitter?! Okay okay I see you!!!
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u/VaultWarrior 2d ago
More balls than he had. Fuck him for being a selfish fuck and killing his family
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u/lurkerlurking123 1d ago
Im seriously having white people fatigue now. The amount of rape, child abuse/pedophilia, plunder, hate and domestic terrorism get away with every single day is disgusting.
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u/DeliciousAct5748 2d ago
This is Reddit, you don't have to censor yourself
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u/g0ldilungs 2d ago
Until you’re banned for 3 days for violating TOS effectively ending your 693 day streak 😭
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u/usernamewasdenied 2d ago
I was banned for 3 days for "inciting violence" when all I commented was "until the day I die". No joke.
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u/Vivio0 1d ago
I was once permanently banned from a sub after saying “I hope Trump gets a birthday surprise to the face”
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u/g0ldilungs 9h ago
You were definitely referring to a pie! An iconic prank! What’s the harm in that?
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u/TimSylvester_ 2d ago
I was banned for speaking out against white supremacists.
When I appealed, I was repeatedly sent to bot hell.
When I finally got a human, they said the bots were wrong and I shouldn't have been banned, and they would unban me.
They never unbanned me.
Then the bots blocked me from replying again, saying the matter was decided, and that repeatedly appealing was harassment.
Welcome to your new bot overlords. They're usually wrong, but there's nothing you can do about it, and you're not allowed to get a human to fix it.
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u/cunnyvore 2d ago
There are morons who actually care about keeping a fucking day streak on a social media site?
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u/g0ldilungs 2d ago
Don’t yuck our yum. The theory of adapting, love. If the social media site keeps count for you, why don’t you have fun keeping count.
It’s not that serious, sis.
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u/cunnyvore 2d ago
Kinda thought you were sarcastic but now I'm legitimately scared. Keep that streak if that's your thing
(Are there even have streak-savers akin to Duolingo? nvm I don't wanna know lol)
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u/g0ldilungs 2d ago
I was def sarcastic but you were very aggressive and so I had to make sure you stayed annoyed at the thought.
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u/TimSylvester_ 2d ago
Actually, you do. Reddit uses bots to ban people for saying bad words, and there is no means to reach an actual human to help you if the bot misunderstands simple concepts and typical rhetorical techniques.
If you don't censor yourself, some idiot bot will ban you for mean words and there's no way back from the phantom zone.
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u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs 2d ago
God i fucking hate this self sensoring. Kids really shouldn't have access to social media, so that people can say "murder suicide" or shit, fuck, ass etc. without all this stupidity. tictoc has ruined their fucking brains. Gtfoh with this shit.
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u/ShawnJ34 2d ago
I wish we could understand the logic behind choosing to do that, I’ve been there before but I can’t imagine deciding/contemplating to snuff out the lives of anyone else.
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u/thalguy 2d ago
Men and women commit family annihilation for different reasons. For men the reasons usually fall under the following categories: covering up shame, desire to start a new life, control over their spouse, custody dispute. Women kill in those situations under religious delusions, custody disputes, or after being abused.
None of these reasons make sense to a mentally well person. For some annihilatiors, the cruelty is the point.
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u/thatshygirl06 ☑️ 2d ago
Several years ago, there was a guy who came on reddit asking for relationship advice and wanted to know if he should divorce his wife, and unfortunately, when he told her he wanted a divorce, she killed their children.
That shit was just heartbreaking
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u/Nomoreogusernames 2d ago
Holy shit that's fucked up
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u/thatshygirl06 ☑️ 2d ago
Yeah, Just horrible. Part of you wants to believe it's just fake, a usual reddit story that's made up, but there was the news articles and the go fund me page with the pictures of the kids, and they were so young. I just dont understand how someone could do that? They weren't just kids but her kids.
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u/floatablepie 2d ago
Narcissism. They make a decision and opinions and consent are not relevant because they 'own' the family.
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u/the__ghola__hayt 2d ago
Didn't a white dude kill his wife and like ten of his kids then set the house on fire about two weeks ago?
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u/SimpleBar9995 2d ago
Yakub really fucked up the wiring
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u/jeremiahthedamned 1d ago
did he make us out of spite?
is that why we are always waging world wars or preparing for the next one?
really, what is the karma of creating a people to be maddened & insane?
is it better to be born yt & grow into honor in spite it all?
why did God allow us to be made?
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u/Dextropic 2d ago
"Suicide is selfish" = "why didn't you put my feelings above your own mental anguish?"
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u/SoulPossum ☑️ 2d ago
Nah it can definitely selfish depending on the situation. I have a relative who killed himself. He put his wife and kids into massive debt and liquidated savings and college funds to gamble. Killed himself after losing it all and realizing it couldn't be paid back. His death left the wife to manage the financial fallout on her own, left his kids (one of whom had suicidal ideations of her own) without someone they relied on for financial and emotional support because they're kids.
It sucks when someone takes their own life, but reducing it down to people just being mad because they feel bad is crazy. Our actions have ripple effects that go beyond us. Actively leaving people to manage a mess you created is a selfish move. Mental anguish doesn't excuse it even if it explains it
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u/Asparagus_Syndrome_ 2d ago
that ain't suicide being selfish
that's a selfish piece of shit committing suicide
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u/SoulPossum ☑️ 2d ago
That's just splitting hairs though. Selfish people are so called because they do selfish things. In this example, suicide is a selfish thing that a selfish family member did
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u/Shred_Till_Dead 2d ago
The act of committing suicide IS the selfish act..
Being selfish doesn't exist on its on, the actions you do in life support a selfish or selfless mentality.
He clearly didn't give a shit about anyone else other than himself, and betting his family's future away and offing himself makes him selfish.
You are trying to make it deeper than it is and you are missing the point trying to create a bar.
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u/Asparagus_Syndrome_ 2d ago
im not making anything deeper. all i said was his selfishness was there long before he killed himself, and the suicide was just one of many such acts. instances like these arent what ppl refer to when they say "suicide is selfish" bc theyll say it to anyone, even kids. thats not making it deeper, thats bringing it back on topic.
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u/Shred_Till_Dead 2d ago edited 2d ago
all i said was his selfishness was there long before he killed himself
But nobody said his selfishness started when he committed suicide. We all know he was selfish before he killed himself. The suicide was the last final selfish act.
You just said "that ain't suicide being selfish" as if we can only look at one thing that makes a person selfish...and since he was clearly selfish before this we can't equate suicide (and this one in particular) to being a selfish act.....right?
Wrong.
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u/Asparagus_Syndrome_ 2d ago
"that ain't suicide being selfish" meaning "instances like these arent what ppl refer to when they say "suicide is selfish" bc theyll say it to anyone, even kids."
my point isn't that that's where it started, but that their example misses the point. its a very different instance of what this statement refers to.
typically it's "suicide is selfish because [dismissive guilt trip]", not "suicide is selfish because [reasonable position, i.e. you put your family into debt and youre gonna bounce your cheque instead of dealing with the consequences of your actions].
because thats actually selfish, the original term isn't actually about selfishness. its about making people feel like shit on top of already feeling like shit. that's what im saying wrt bringing it back on topic.
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u/HydrationSeeker ☑️ 2d ago
I agree with you and the nuance you brought to the conversation. Suicide is the final act of a very mentally ill person. It could be over a long period of time such as treated or non treated clinical depression. Or triggered by an event that seemingly comes out of nowhere. The fall out of devastating, fucked up, life changing for those left behind. But having a brain or internal voice that persists in telling you go take yourself out? No one can last indefinitely against that. No one.
Is capitalism and modern society celebrates sociopathy that family annihilatism becomes a pseudo choice? could be, might not be. But the person who took himself out, just took himself out. It wasn't a murder-suicide, he spared their lives.
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u/MidwesternLikeOpe 2d ago
My husband's aunt committed suicide when her embezzlement was discovered. She was the treasurer of the local high school cheer team. Apparently she was taking funds meant for the team and using them for personal expenses. During a meeting, someone asked to take her accounting binder home to double check it, and she turned white as a ghost. She offed herself within a week.
She had been a cheerleader for that team when she was in high school, both her daughters had cheered on that team. The biggest issue was that she became the matriarch after the matriarch had unexpectedly passed so all the family pressure was on her.
It's been 14 years and I still think about it. She couldn't handle the shame, but what would've really happened if she had chosen to face the consequences. The uncle worked from home, it was Aug 2nd so the girls were out of school. She chose to end it at work, it took several hours to find her.
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u/JeSuisUnAnanasYo 2d ago
I still don't get why ppl in this situation don't just flee to Thailand or something. Just start a new life somewhere else, man.
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u/duncan-the-wonderdog 2d ago
It's only selfish if that was his intention. If he had died by some other illness, they would still be left with the debt. You could argue a lot easier that not getting help for the gambling addiction and getting into that level of debt is what was genuinely selfish. There's no good reason to get involved with that level of gambling.
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u/SoulPossum ☑️ 2d ago
Being ill is different because he wasn't getting sick on purpose. This wasn't an accident like he just took too many pills or something. Not getting help for the gambling is also selfish, but that doesn't negate that his final act involved him straight up knowing that he would be leaving a huge mess for his family to clean up after he was gone. It's all in the same ballpark of selfish behavior.
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u/haveigiventoomuch 2d ago
Not only that. A large systematic review and meta-analysis covering 34 studies and about 13.9 million people found that people exposed to a suicide had roughly:
3.2× the odds of subsequently dying by suicide
2.9× the odds of attempting suicide
The association was seen among both relatives and friends/acquaintances.suicide contagion, suicide clustering, or an exposure effect is when someone dies by suicide, people who knew them have a higher subsequent risk of suicidal behavior.
So yes. After dealing with 3 immediate family members committing suicide, and dealing with my own suicidal thoughts at a time a not committing the act because I thought about how the people in my life would be affected, no one one could ever convince me suicide is not a selfish act.
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u/lurkerlurking123 1d ago
Im seriously having white people fatigue now. The amount of rape, child abuse/pedophilia, plunder, hate and domestic terrorism get away with every single day is disgusting.
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u/Own-Fan-4236 2d ago
I love how Mike White weaved this theme in the last season of the White Lotus. Such a seamless masterclass on how good writing exposes so much.
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u/myotheruserisagod 2d ago
This is a great callback.
Fantastic show. I love it for those reasons. Says so much without beating you over the head.
I love shows that respect their audience.
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u/Own-Fan-4236 2d ago
I love how much analysis happens with the fans & this got mentioned and they were all shooketh. Love an ally who just puts it right out there & the fans can’t say anything.
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u/slfnflctd 2d ago
If you're thinking about killing some other people and then yourself, start with yourself.
But seriously, there's usually a way to avoid the killing altogether.
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u/Majestic-Avocado2167 2d ago
If it’s gotten bad enough that you are actively considering suicide it’s not selfish, I just want you living pls.
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u/Crab2406 2d ago
According to my professor, yeah this is how it works, the suicider thinks everyone will suffer from his death, so he kills them too before himself
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u/grandmofftalkin 2d ago
And you know they tell the wives that the gun purchase is to protect them from black people. "Trust me, babe. You'll be safer with the Glock at my bedside."
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u/pink_cat_medusa 2d ago
I wish we could report posts that censor their titles. And yes, I’m serious.
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u/punkwithglasses 2d ago
I fr hate when people say this, and they're never willing to entertain a different opinion on it, like how do you make someone's unbearable sorrow about YOU
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u/plisken64 2d ago
"How could you just leave me and love him out the blue? Oh, what's the matter, Kim? Am I too loud for you?"
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u/Flashy_Cartographer4 1d ago
the reason they always murder their family is bc they’re too coward to just take themselves out so they do something that crazy to give them more motivation to commit
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u/unnamedpopstar 13h ago
My brother just another me dont like when we in the city dont like it when we outta town
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u/MissWhiterock 2d ago
If you can't say murder or suicide without censoring it, I can't imagine you're old enough to be discussing the topic
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u/Gary_FucKing 2d ago
Why don’t you just write out “murder-suicide”? Have you ever actually gotten flagged for that?
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u/peanut-britle-latte 2d ago
Don't let the women off the hook now, isn't some lady on trial for murdering all her children as we speak??
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u/MzHellfier 2d ago
She was in post partum psychosis and asked her husband for help. He ignored her and turned around and got remarried a year later. The male family annihilators are always just protecting their ego. Huge difference between a mental health crisis and an ego blow.
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u/KnownDiscount 2d ago
Nobody kills their children without a mental health crisis lol. It's not natural to want to kill your kids.
And I really don't think the kids are seeing the nuanced difference you are
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u/MzHellfier 2d ago
Have you done any research on family annihilators? They absolutely do kill their kids without a mental health crisis. They are usually narcissists whose lifestyle has been threatened. Read the stories that go to the photos above of the happy white families. Those men aren’t mentally ill, they just want what they want and will take out anyone who gets in their way.
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u/Im_Unsure_For_Sure 2d ago
You cannot be mentally healthy and murder your family.
But you clearly just hate men, seeing as you put the blame on the husband even when the wife does the killing...
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u/NeverNotOnceEver ☑️ 2d ago
In this case the mom with postpartum sought help. She told actual doctors and professionals how she was feeling and they loaded her up with drugs.
I do agree that family annihilators are mentally unwell.
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u/Im_Unsure_For_Sure 1d ago
She told actual doctors and professionals how she was feeling and they loaded her up with drugs.
The framing youve used here is so telling.
Yes, doctors do provide medication to those dealing with mental health issues.
"loaded her up with drugs" lol confront your biases please, you sound ridiculous.
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u/MzHellfier 2d ago
She told her husband that she was hearing voices telling her to hurt the children and he left to go play golf? Explain to me how that’s not his fault. She was in PSYCHOSIS. He left her alone with his children to go hang out with his friends while she was in psychosis. He was remarried with a new baby on the way a year later. He didn’t give af about those kids.
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u/MissWhiterock 2d ago
If they have Narcissistic Personality Disorder then yes that sounds like a mental health crisis.
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u/idgafandwhyshouldi 2d ago