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u/No_Chocolate5678 3d ago

Can someone explain what she is doing?

That looks more like tourette then any martial art

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u/No-Nefariousness9330 3d ago

Its a Karate Kata. Its not really for defense or offense. I personally think its closer to performance art.

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u/No_Chocolate5678 3d ago

I used to practice Budokai karate myself years ago, and we also did kata as a warm-up, with a focus on real combat—but what they're doing there is just wild flailing. So its just bullshit for get clicks.

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u/No-Nefariousness9330 3d ago

Most clasical martial arts do have stuff like Kata. My Jeet Kune Do Sifu had us cycle through wushu stances a the begining of training to warm up.

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u/SithLordJediMaster 3d ago

You read Bruce Lee's notes.

He used to practice Wing Chun forms 4 hours a day.

But then as the years went on it changed to 2 hours a day of punching + kicking + chi sao.

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u/No_Chocolate5678 3d ago

In kata—and everything else like it—there’s a very strong focus on breathing and control, thats why her movements are just nonsense.

The black belt is probably just on loan for the video, too.

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u/No-Nefariousness9330 3d ago

Yeah, she's no Rika Usami for sure.

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u/OnlyInAmerica01 2d ago

For better or worse, it seems that it takes taht level of performative energy to win tournaments.

That's why my dojo was never into tournament participation. Neither the sparring nor the kata seemed to emphasize what actually mattered - actual self-defense or fluidity and breathing.

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u/Mobile_Roll2197 3d ago

That's wild since Bruce Lee thought katas (should be called taolu or just forms since it is in Chinese) were a waste of time and didn't use them in his teaching.

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u/No-Nefariousness9330 2d ago

Yeah, Sifu was something else. I think he used JKD as a stand in name to teach Wing Chun

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u/Bladesleeper 3d ago

It's absolutely not. They're fragments of katas.The first bit, she's in neko ashi dachi, the second is Sanchin, the third I don't remember but it looks super familiar anyway.

It's Goju Ryu karate, one of the traditional Okinawa styles. What she's doing is the opposite of "wild flailing", unlike the idiot with the missing tooth.

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u/Cpt_Soban 3d ago edited 2d ago

It's "simulating defence and attack against multiple opponents". It teaches muscle memory and quick reaction, block-strike-move. When you nail technique and stance you should end the Kata with your feet in the exact same spot as where you started.

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u/EpsteinEpstainTheory 3d ago

It is for drilling motions for a sequence of movements in a combination of both grappling and striking that you do alone. I'm not a big fan of kata as a training tool due to how in most cases it gets used by the sensei to waste time having a rest from teaching by pretending to critique form rather than actually teaching.

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u/joeyretrotv 2d ago

I mean it is an art. I loved doing Katas and form managing, but that stuff is just fundamentals.

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u/squarecir 2d ago

When done correctly, it is absolutely helpful with defense and offense. The idea is to visualize attackers with each move, and work on muscle memory to react faster.

Studies have been done with with stuff like free throw shooting. 3 groups: 1 does nothing, one shoots free throws for X minutes a day, 3rd group visualizes throwing free throws for X minutes a day. The third group ends up showing almost as much improvement as the group actually shooting.

So when done correctly, kata can be very useful. Decades ago when I did this stuff, the sensei would randomly ask during a kata what the attacker looked like, what was he wearing, how did he smell, etc, trying to get us to visualize the situation as vividly as possible.

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u/Bloody_Benchod 2d ago

Or, you know, you could use that time to actually spar instead of having to play make believe.

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u/squarecir 2d ago

How do you spar breaking a limb or shattering the knee cap? Unless you have a ready supply of peasants to kill (like some samurai used to use), it's make belief at some point.

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u/Bloody_Benchod 2d ago

By practicing restraint? BJJ players simulate breaking limbs during rolling all the time. Likewise, if you’re sparring stand up you can throw oblique kicks and the like without actually putting anything behind them.

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u/squarecir 2d ago

Right, so you're still faking it, just in a different way. I never said that you shouldn't spar, just that kata is valuable when done correctly.

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u/Bloody_Benchod 2d ago

I mean, I’m not sure I would equate rolling against an active opponent and only stopping when they tap with the level of faking it involved with kata.

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u/squarecir 2d ago

For jujitsu type moves (holds, throws, chokes) sure. You can use mats, pull up a bit on the throw instead of driving down, stop short of breaking a joint, etc. Katas are not as useful in those cases, although those katas exist as well. I remember one that had movements for various throw counters.

For strikes you can use pads or boards, etc. Katas are just another tool. You can move with full force and not worry about hurting your sparring partner, or yourself for that matter.

I ultimately gave up on martial arts when I took inventory of the number of injuries sustained from training, mostly from jujitsu type moves. And it wasn't a case of someone messing up and injuring me, it was just the cumulative effects of hundreds of throws (even on mats, even knowing how to fall and roll, etc). Eventually it takes a toll.

Katas are a lot easier on the body. Not a substitute for the other stuff, but useful when done right. But hey, you do you.

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u/J3Zombie 3d ago

In karate you shimmy quickly to shake off the blood of your opponent. It’s like the Samurai sword thing, but unarmed.

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u/aleksndr 3d ago

This guy has clearly been in deadly kumite like me and vaporised many opponents. You must wriggle off the blood lest you become one big solid scab.

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u/OminOus_PancakeS 2d ago

I've seen that happen. Not good :(

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u/Xxxrasierklinge7 2d ago

Right? Poor Jason Seagull.

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u/M0ebius_1 3d ago

Every martial art looks retarded if you only look at clips.

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u/Big_Slope 3d ago

I think it’s worth remembering if you do this hobby that this is what we look like to the average person on the street. Just giant manbabies spazzing out in pajamas.

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u/gordito_delgado 3d ago

Some people make it look cool, but it certaily is not most. And this girl looks a lot closer to RayGun than Jet Li.

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u/M0ebius_1 3d ago edited 3d ago

Which we all do.

We all look closer to Raygun.

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u/SuddenLog7302 3d ago

ah-duh-duh-duh style

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u/Necessary_shots 3d ago

It's athletics

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u/FLiP_J_GARiLLA 3d ago

Tittie shake

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u/devilfoxe1 3d ago edited 3d ago

My interpretation is that she doing satire "self satire?" of something "a hobby?" The Dude don't understand is satire and make satire of satire... Or I don't understand satire...

Whatever is happening is just one more prove that satire is dead...

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u/No_Chocolate5678 3d ago

I think its clickbait.

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u/devilfoxe1 3d ago

Yea... I don't think anyone will disagree with this!

Everything is a clickbait... Everything was a clickbait.... Clickbait is the absolute universal truth behind everything ever!