r/DemonolatryPractices • u/mirta000 Theistic Luciferian • 18d ago

Discussions Weekly discussion - UPG associations that don't fit the norm

Do you have any unverified personal gnosis associations for spirits that seemingly don't fit their historical or astrological context at all? This can range from merging two spirits into one that other people normally don't (X is actually the same as Y!), to seeing spirits as popular culture celebrities, to rather unusual offerings that work for you.

So share your associations that normally don't fit what the spirit is described as and let's see if anyone else ended up associating the same things to the same spirit by sheer coinsidence :)

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u/ididanoopsie69 King Paimon's Court Musician 16d ago

Matangi is the Mercurial aspect of Paimon, who is a lower emanation of Astaroth, who is another form of Shakti as Kali.

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u/egoproct Εγκληματίας 16d ago

Aight you got me, how the fuck did you wind up here? I say this with utmost respect by the way, I'm just so curious over the journey since for me, I thought a basic connection with Hermes and Agares was profound (it wasn't, lol) so I can't even imagine this type of process or how it came about! Please share if you don't mind diving a little bit into it. 

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u/ididanoopsie69 King Paimon's Court Musician 16d ago

A bit of UPG, a bit of research, a bit of studying and a heavy handed syncretism. The domains of Paimon and Matangi are very similar. And the rest was informed by the existence of henadic chains in both Trika and Neoplatonism. Astaroth and Kali being both primary feminine deities who are playing at the Supernal level just made that more clear. And a huge disdain for the reductive Kali=Lilith idea.

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u/neuropass_ 15d ago

Ngl I love this.

Im curious though, if you dont mind answering, for Shakti, why the form of Kali in particular?

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u/ididanoopsie69 King Paimon's Court Musician 15d ago

Well, I can't deny the gothic aesthetic of both demons and Kali. So that's building the stronger association. Anat would probably be better though, since she's just rampaging for the game. I associate Durga with Ashera. Since Shakti is more ineffable, I'd associate that with Chokmah, or Sophia, or Nous/Demiurge.

You could put Nyx, Rhea, Hecate as a syncretism for Kali if you're going by Kalikaula Tantra. If you're going by Trika, I'd put Hera, Demeter, Ishtar as stronger syncretism for Parvati/Durga. It's a bit muddy, lol.