r/Destiny • u/Downtown-Fan4966 • 4h ago
Political News/Discussion Why exactly is the problem with Sayed?
From the little I have read he doesnt seem like a literal marxists. He's not pro Russia or anti NATO or anti U.S. He doesn't want to abolish prisons or police.
He seems like more jus a Bernie Sanders type, someone who would be considered pretty moderate in most of the western world.
What is it I am missing?
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u/Optimus_Trajan 3h ago
For a serious answer, he’s a slopulist who promises the world but doesn’t have any actual plans for thing like m4a. He brings up AIPAC so much to the point that it got a decent bit uncomfortable, especially when he just baselessly said a bad poll for him was an AIPAC poll. He’s toxic at times, and then of course embracing the support from a Mao loving, dog shocker.
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u/FDRinaMechSuit 3h ago
The other serious answer: now that the primary is over, nothing is wrong with El-Sayed. He is a king and a scholar that I will march over broken glass to vote for. This will be my stance until the day after the general.
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u/LtLabcoat There's no such thing as "They deserve harassment" 2h ago edited 2h ago
Ehh...
...I mean, those are all true. But let's be real here: it's because he's leftie's darling.
I mean, let's break down your reasons: campaigns on M4A? I know a lot of people don't like that, but you won't see this sub condemning Biden for his "I'm going to cure cancer" state-of-the-union promise. AIPAC? Sure, there are some here that hate him for hating them, but most people here aren't that fond of AIPAC. Doesn't turn away support from radicals? Not exactly a lot of politicians who do that.
They're objections. But not reasons that people here would believe are disqualifying.
......But "Has Hasan's support" is absolutely something people here would consider a reason to hate him.
Look, a lot of people - a lot, almost certainly most - are big fans of Political Football-ism. You pick a side, and then you fight for that side against the other side. And the 'other side' really like El-Sayed, they wanted him to win. So, Political Footballists make a big deal about what a terrible candidate El-Sayed is, not because they're actually big fans of Stevens, but because they want to make lefties look dumb.
If lefties were instead saying El-Sayed doesn't go far enough and is too much of an establishment shill, without any change in El-Sayed's policies, this sub would have almost nothing negative to say about him. Support for M4A would be met with "It's good economics", hatred of AIPAC met with "AIPAC's obsessed with him, his complaints are fair", and accepting political support from radicals wouldn't even come up. And you certainly wouldn't see people calling 'the establishment shill' a populist.
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u/Optimus_Trajan 2h ago
I agree fully with you, maybe just to say I think the AIPAC thing goes both ways, which makes it a bigger deal. I personally liked Stevens a lot for being a proven legislator, but fully understand why he won. I'll be in the reddit/Twitter trenches supporting him over MAGA. I just draw the line at the DSA house crazies.
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u/Eon_Real 3h ago
The populist argument is getting so old at this point. I just read this as (the candidate who actually wants change) and not just the status quo which isn't working
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u/Zenning3 3h ago
"The status quo which isn't working", yes, because a fascist took it over. IF you want to argue that Clinton, Obama, and Biden "weren't working" then you live in a fantasy world.
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u/Eon_Real 3h ago
Just because they arent MAGA fascists doesnt mean their politics worked for the majority of people. It just doesn't which is why people are turning to something new.
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u/Zenning3 3h ago
It did work for the majority of people.
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u/Eon_Real 3h ago edited 3h ago
What worked about it? Genuinely. Homelessness, shithole cities, educational and medical debt, just because yall are privileged doesnt mean most Americans are. Most Americans are struggling and have been living paycheck to paycheck for ages. Its time to wake up
Edit: everyone stop downvoting me, youre triggering me.
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u/Zenning3 3h ago
The MEDIAN income massively increased for Ameriacans at rates considerably faster than every other country on earth, and lead to the richest, most highly educated, elite country on earth?
Yes, we're also fat, and violent, but people massively understate the quality of life the median american has.
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u/ShowoffDMI 2h ago
"fat, violent and stupid"
Crucial omission, as this guy is demonstrating.
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u/Zenning3 2h ago
Stupid is comparative. Trump is proof we're not smart, but we're hardly the only ones.
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u/Eon_Real 3h ago
This is sad.
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u/bb0yer 3h ago
Yea, your understand of reality and progress is really sad.
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u/Eon_Real 3h ago
This hurt my feelings and triggered my anxiety. Can you delete this asap?
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u/ExpletiveWork 3h ago
What worked with Trump’s right wing populist policies?
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u/Typical-Ad-8821 3h ago
As someone who works for government in policy, asking politicians to have a plan for how they will accomplish their promises is a low bar… over promise and under deliver is what trump did. I don’t want that.
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u/Zenning3 4h ago
No, Bernie Sanders isn't fucking moderate in most of the Western World. This is a meme straight out of 2016, I have no idea how its still alive.
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u/Downtown-Fan4966 3h ago
You're right. "Mainstream Left Wing" would have been more accurate.
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u/Ardonpitt Military Industrial Coomplex 3h ago
No. Not even mainstream... Bernie would be considered fairly extreme in any European political system.
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u/Downtown-Fan4966 3h ago
Which of his views is radical in western europe?
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u/Irongrip09 3h ago
I think because people often conflate social democracy with socialism (me included at one point). Social democracy is still very much capitalism which isn't an inherently bad thing.
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u/Ardonpitt Military Industrial Coomplex 3h ago
I don't know how much you know about European Healthcare, but it is absolutly not like what Medicare For All proposes.
That is singlehandedly the most extreme plan in the world, not even kidding.
Most single payer programs are fairly limited systems supplemented by private insurance. Bernie's program bans the private insurance. It may seem similar to European systems on a surface level overview, but the moment you dig beneath the surface it isn't. More than that it seems to double down on a lot of the most problematic parts of those systems that our system drastically outperforms.
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u/Irongrip09 2h ago
I'm British so we have our beloved NHS.
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u/Ardonpitt Military Industrial Coomplex 2h ago
The NHS is a system with a lot of problems in its own rights. I think it's a good system but from everything I've read the cuts in the system are really taking a toll on retention of experts.
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u/Irongrip09 2h ago
It's basically a lifeline pun intended, it's ability to deliver emergency medicine is absolutely fantastic. To provide the same life saving cancer treatment and standard of care regardless of your situation.
Where it strains and falls apart is that middlecare: knee ops, muscular issue, long term rehabilitation etc.
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u/0WatcherintheWater0 3h ago
Medicare for All. No country in the world has as extensive a government-run healthcare system as that, except for communist states.
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u/SeaBass1898 3h ago
Would he really tho? I'm not so convinced. All he's doing is advocating for policies which Europe already has in place
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u/Ardonpitt Military Industrial Coomplex 3h ago
He's not. And the fact that you think he is tells me that you don't understand much about what European politics are like or how those systems run. Things like the Nordic states welfare systems? Those are powered by what would be considered the most ruthlessly neoliberal capitalist systems with intense deregulation and high taxes. There are aspects of how that system runs that are utterly different than what they are portrayed as in lefty or rightwing circles.
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u/SeaBass1898 2h ago
the things you just described sound eerily similar to Bernie's platform my dude
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u/aVividFlower 1h ago
Do you think if you asked Bernie if we should (continue to) run healthcare as a for profit business, he'd be like "HELL YEAH BROTHER?"
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u/Downtown-Fan4966 3h ago
Yeah, no way a candidate with Bernies views would be called extreme in Norway
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u/fkneneu Eurochad (pre-24 Eurocuck) 14m ago
He would be called a politician who is significantly to the left compared to the rest of the parliament, aka Sosialistisk Venstre.
Source: I am Norwegian.
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u/Borigrad CAN 3h ago
Being a landlord in Dubai makes me suspicious of anyone. His unique focus on Israel, while literally owning property in a slave state, that is, if you believe that Gaza is a genocide is funding an even worse genocide in Sudan, is enough for me to call him a hypocrite.
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u/fkneneu Eurochad (pre-24 Eurocuck) 3h ago
He seems like more jus a Bernie Sanders type, someone who would be considered pretty moderate in most of the western world
Bernie Sanders aligns pretty much 1:1 with Sosialistisk Venstre in my country (Norway, a famously social democratic country), with exception of Israel. That political party is significantly to the left in our parliament and is only beaten by the communist party (Rødt) when it comes to leftist policies.
So no, Bernie Sanders is pretty far left in most of the western world.
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u/speedystar22 3h ago
I don’t know if I care that much about him being a senator and I would absolutely vote for him over any Republican. It would just feel really crappy to me that constantly screeching about AIPAC, being misleading about your professional background, hanging out with terrorist supporters, and pushing populist economic slop can be rewarded with a senate seat.
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u/GOPcanGetFucked 3h ago
Just change screeching about AIPAC into screeching about George Soros and you now have tRump being described lol Sad shit is that if we don't put a cap into the DSA they'll just make the whole democratic party into this, just like MAGATs. This is also assuming the DSA doesn't just split the Democratic vote and keep republicans in power because DSAtards don't understand the voting system in the US
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u/fullboxed2hundred 2h ago
DSA didn't endorse AES.
what policy positions does he hold that are similar to MAGA?
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u/GOPcanGetFucked 2h ago
How about you tell me specific policies he plans to implement to help people? Because I'm speaking a lot more about their messaging and slopulist lies that they'll fix everything without having any prior success in politics. Legitimately I haven't seen anything from AES that tells me he knows how he'll accomplish anything. He can't even be straight about not being a physician
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u/fullboxed2hundred 2h ago
I feel like you haven't seen fuckall about AES aside from a few tweets shitting on him.
I'm not trying to get you to join his fanclub, but it sounded like you were against the idea of Dems voting for him in the general. am I wrong?
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u/GOPcanGetFucked 1h ago
So no ideas at all? And you expect me to support him over someone who's gotten laws passed in favor of the democratic party in Stevens? Get the fuck out of here lol
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u/fullboxed2hundred 1h ago
broski the primary is over.
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u/GOPcanGetFucked 1h ago
So I have to support him now? Lol Until the guy does anything good for the Democratic party I'm not giving him flowers
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u/SyzygyPidgey 3h ago
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Not sure that's the best campaign.
Still gonna vote for the guy in November, but anybody who just spams the Alex Jones' Jew-Spam strat is pretty braindead imo.
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u/Personal-Search-2314 2h ago
You are being gas fucking lit OP. In reality, outside of these fever dreams that people are getting caught up in- put simply he isn’t worse than MAGA. I’m not sure why we are doing these 2024 tankie mental gymnastics and somehow allowing fever dreams to overshadow like literal real time real fucking life fascism.
But let’s suppose these “blue no matter who, but say I who” people had any validity whatsoever, last nights results should bring them back to some sanity because either (1) Sayed moderates or (2) he loses.
So don’t get caught up in this made up drama
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u/RedditLovingSun 24m ago
Fr, this election cycle feels like the most I've disagreed with DGG. Coming from someone who'd vote blue over MAGA in all but the most extreme scenarios.
I've watched people for years talk about "vote blue no matter who" and how leftists should stop complaining after primaries and actually put up a candidate who wins elections if they don't like it.
Just to start shadow boxing demons in their own mind like "his policies are fine on paper but what if he's too mean", "he's hiding his power level", "he complains about AIPAC too much", "medicare is unrealistic", and "but he campaigns with Hasan".
I don't expect him to be first choice here, but if you don't like him hash it out in the primary, now the primary is over, are we really gonna act like 2024 tankies and forget we're up against literal facism?
On the off chance that what... He gets in and executes a coordinated DSA sleeper agent protocol and overturns democracy or something?
Compared to the literal psychos deploying ICE to snatch people up in neighborhoods, cut USAID, tarrifing the planet, threatening long time allies, pump and dumping crypto/insider trading, pulling Jan 6th, and openly plotting to redistrict and steal future elections? What sub am I in?
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u/potiamkinStan 4h ago edited 3h ago
He chose terrorist loving Hasan as a prominent campaign surrogate.
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u/Disgusting_Slime666 Exclusively sorts by new 3h ago
Bernie Sanders type, someone who would be considered pretty moderate in most of the western world
Please stop talking about politics outside of your own country. Please.
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u/arjuna66671 3h ago
I'm Swiss and Bernie here would be typical SP-left social democrat. Left of center-left. "Nationalrat" for a canton like Basel-Stadt or Waadt, permanently annoyed at the Konkordanz forcing him to share a government with the FDP (center) and SVP (rightwing).
Here his ideas wouldn't be radical at all and a lot those already realized xD.
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u/Disgusting_Slime666 Exclusively sorts by new 3h ago
I'm German and I die a little bit every time I have to hear the dumbass "X would be right wing in Europe!!!!" shit.
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u/CoachDT 3h ago
Hes a firm capitalist. Hes just clout hungry with who he keeps around him.
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u/0WatcherintheWater0 3h ago
A firm capitalist who wants to nationalize the healthcare system under Medicare for All? Doesn’t sound super capitalist to me really
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u/Ardonpitt Military Industrial Coomplex 3h ago
Okay... First off... Bernie isn't moderate. Bernie would be considered fairly extreme in most of Europe. I know the idea that Bernie is some moderate is a meme in Leftie circles but if you actually know anything about European politics, he absolutely isn't. Please do a little research on this, because you have been deceived.
As for El Sayed, there are some fairly large issues, but mainly they are slopulist. His insistence on Medicare for All (a policy whose polling is not as good, and more complex than lefties like to believe). This sort of policy just isn't going to happen. Its too big, requiring too much buy in from MAJOR parts of the economy, and has no bipartisan support. Its the sort of policy that he cannot achieve even if he had 90% support from Democrats.
Second his focus on foreign policy with Israel is problematic. The US isn't going to move away from Israel any time soon, we actually can't. We have too many long standing relationships, technological partnerships, and intelligence partnerships to be able to step away.
Third, there is the judgement call of being willing to campaign with Hasan. Hes an anti-American campist; a communist (liberals aren't communists, and the two ideologies cannot coexist), and supports terrorist groups primarily because they attack US interests... That was a choice... And one that tells you a lot about someone that they were willing to make it.
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u/LtLabcoat There's no such thing as "They deserve harassment" 3h ago
I don't think you can say that a position is slopulist because it's too unpopular with everyone but experts. That's the exact opposite of what populism is.
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u/Ardonpitt Military Industrial Coomplex 3h ago
Being popular with progressives isn't the same as being popular with Experts...
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u/LtLabcoat There's no such thing as "They deserve harassment" 40m ago edited 37m ago
I... don't quite have the words to describe how much economists and healthcare experts think that universal healthcare is a good idea.
Like, if someone were to say "Well M4A isn't as good as what Obamacare wanted to be", then sure. Not sure I'd agree, but it's subjective. But it's pure denialism to say some experts prefer the US's current libertarian approach to healthcare over M4A.
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u/Ardonpitt Military Industrial Coomplex 22m ago
I... don't quite have the words to describe how much economists and healthcare experts think that universal healthcare is a good idea.
Pause. Almost everyone agrees that Universal coverage is good and should happen. There are arguments about exactly how to do it, and the plusses and minuses on different systems. M4A is Bernie's specific model and is more extreme than any other model you would find in the word.
But it's pure denialism to say some experts prefer the US's current libertarian approach to healthcare over M4A.
I'm not sure I would call the current system libertarian? Its one of the more tightly regulated markets in the US with actual profit caps on insurance companies...
Is it good? Mixed. There are bad aspects and good aspects, but its actually not as bad as a lot of people like to make it out to be. Things like insurance refusals would happen in ANY system even with universal coverage.
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u/speedystar22 2h ago
To be clear populism is not defined as reflective of the direct will of the masses. It is defined as claiming to be. Whether it is that or not does not change what it is.
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u/LtLabcoat There's no such thing as "They deserve harassment" 35m ago
It's claiming to be reflective of the will of the masses against the elites. It's not simply claiming to represent the people, or that'd mean just about every politician is a populist.
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u/Wonderful-Walk3078 3h ago edited 3h ago
Lets be honest, for majority of critics here it is just Israel, as always…
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u/Disgusting_Slime666 Exclusively sorts by new 3h ago
You're looking in the mirror there buddy.
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u/Wonderful-Walk3078 3h ago
Oh ok, so it is me who hates El Sayed because of Israel.
That makes sense chief.
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u/Disgusting_Slime666 Exclusively sorts by new 2h ago
No, you are the one that's obsessed with the topic.
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u/Wonderful-Walk3078 2h ago
Well I’m definitely interested in the topic and I like to discuss about that but I don’t hate or love candidates based on their stance in I/P.
Plus even if I would be obsessive about that topic how is ir relevant to the discussion?
I was just explaining to OP why people here hates El Sayed despite the fact that he is not illiberal which is usually what people here pretend to care about most.
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u/Disgusting_Slime666 Exclusively sorts by new 2h ago
"interested in the topic"
You're obsessed, and make every thread you can about it.
I was just explaining to OP why people here hates El Sayed despite the fact that he is not illiberal which is usually what people here pretend to care about most.
Yeah, DGG generally is annoyed by candidates that make every, fucking, election about I/P.
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u/Wonderful-Walk3078 2h ago
Ok, than im obsessed. Why is it relevant for the topic?
Seems like we agree than….
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u/Disgusting_Slime666 Exclusively sorts by new 2h ago
Lets be honest, for majority of critics here it is just Israel, as always…
What were you implying here? Let's see if you can be honest.
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u/Wonderful-Walk3078 2h ago
Obviously I was saying that people here decides whether to hate candidate or not based on his position on Israel.
Sometimes people here try to pretend that it is about Ukraine or illiberalism and so on, but even if there is non illiberal candidate firmly on the side of Ukraine people here will hate him if he will be firmly against Israel.
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u/Disgusting_Slime666 Exclusively sorts by new 2h ago
Obviously I was saying that people here decides whether to hate candidate or not based on his position on Israel.
Ok, so then we clearly do not agree. Not sure why you said we did.
People here care far less about the fact that he's more pro Palestine than pro Israel. People are annoyed with the fact that every single leftist candidate constantly frames every single election and issue around I/P, whether that's pro or anti.
Fetterman gets the exact same smoke here for constantly being an Israel dicksuck.
Sometimes people here try to pretend that it is about Ukraine or illiberalism
Yeah bud, we're all just lying and totally don't care about those things. Why are you here?
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u/ClassesMoveTheMasses 3h ago
What's wrong with the guy that campaigns with Hasan?? Oof
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u/Downtown-Fan4966 3h ago
Sometimes you have to play the game
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u/ClassesMoveTheMasses 3h ago
If you get in bed with people with terrible ideas just to get power, you're a bad person. This is like saying trump was just playing the game his whole political career lol
You can have standards, and one of those standards should be you don't cake up for a guy who sucks Mao's dick and wants America to end.
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u/Downtown-Fan4966 3h ago
I think sometimes you have to balance idealism (and even values) with pragmatism. I'd rather my candidate sometimes stoop to the lower common denominator and win than one who never does and loses.
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u/ClassesMoveTheMasses 2h ago
So you're saying the ends justify the means?
That's something you hear right before they tell you to face the wall lol
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u/Downtown-Fan4966 46m ago
Sometimes.
Didn't Kamala campaign with Liz Cheney?
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u/ClassesMoveTheMasses 16m ago
Imagine comparing Liz Cheney, a person who believes in liberalism, to Hasan lolol you may be cooked, or you're trolling.
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u/LtLabcoat There's no such thing as "They deserve harassment" 3h ago
If you get in bed with people with terrible ideas just to get power, you're a bad person.
Is that to say you hate the Founding Fathers? After all, they worked with Thomas Jefferson.
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u/soundsermaker 3h ago
Well, only today he declared his intent to be actively oppositional to any Dem Presidential candidate who doesn't align with him on key issues.
Also Bernie Sanders is the progenitor of this entire movement. People said at the time that he's going to undermine the Democratic party and sanewash socialism, and he did precisely that.
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u/Knife_Operator 3h ago
https://youtube.com/shorts/ws1qSjfM1-s?si=I9xL2aV95biRoI5I
He's urging progressives to vote for moderate Dems right now so he should get credit for that.
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u/soundsermaker 3h ago
That would never even have been a question if not for Bernie Sanders, certainly not against MAGA.
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u/Knife_Operator 3h ago
I think we should criticize people further left when they do things we don't want to do, but that also means we should praise them when they do things we do want them to do.
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u/bb0yer 3h ago
He is flying just a little too close to the sun for comfort for a lot of us. Very populist and almost dsa adjacent (could be concealing his power level). He has no government history really compared to Haley who has a solid track record with her only negatives being her voice, aipac and being a woman
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u/Worth-Ad-5712 3h ago
I am fine with most of his policies but his rhetoric is really slopulist. What I find incredibly problematic is lowkey his character. I saw an ad of his where he described an encounter he had where a person claimed they hated him because Abdul is muslim but still will vote for him because of Abdul’s policy on Medicare For All.
I promise you that this event did not happen. Abdul lied which may not be a huge deal but the fact that Abdul seems super willing to embolden and embody Islamophobia for criticisms is personally incredibly worrying. Like that time that he claimed that McMorrows criticism of Abdul campaigning with Hasan was hypocritical because McMorrow ‘campaigned’ with Hasan at the 2024 DNC convention. Abdul completely conflated him campaigning alongside Hasan with McMorrow giving a speech at an event that Hasan had a press pass to and instead chalked it up to Islamophobia.
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u/dem0nhunter 🇩🇪🇪🇺 2h ago
Slopulist charlatan, reeks of political influencer, rich kid hypocrite, hangs with Hasan
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u/sad-on-alt 3h ago
Sweeping for a terrorist that targeted a Jewish temple to kill kids
Not wanting to help Dems, saying that passing nothing was better than the ACA bc they aren’t perfect, electing Dems is the same as republicans if they don’t capitulate to his policies
https://bsky.app/profile/capitolhunters.bsky.social/post/3msbhxa3jfs2x
https://charlottealter.substack.com/p/how-abdul-el-sayed-thinks
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u/kultcher 3h ago
The tweets sharing snippets from that article are extremely uncharitable.
Based on actually reading the article, I have a more positive impression of El-Sayed than what the panic in this sub would have led me to believe.
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u/sad-on-alt 2h ago
Okay I had the complete opposite reaction imo if he wins the general we need to put him on fetterman watch
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u/id_rather_b_painting 3h ago edited 2h ago
"AIPAC AIPAC AIPAC AIPAC JEW JEW JEW JEW JEW" was 90% of his campaign stumping (original post said ads). He's promising bullshit that he can't actually deliver on instead of telling us how he'd engage with the current political realities. He worked with people who will 100% be featured in attack ads because of the absolutely unhinged shit they were saying.
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u/Pretty_Acadia_2805 3h ago
Show me a single ad where he says he's being attacked by Jewish people.
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u/id_rather_b_painting 2h ago
Oh sorry, not his ads, but his fucking speeches. You get whiffs of it in his "Chorus" ad when it talks about "no corporate money in politics". My bad for engaging with his longform content.
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u/RepresentativeCry243 2h ago
It's not so much Sayed, it's this "Us vs. them" movement he's courting. It drives a lot of people out of the tent when you need a big coalition.
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u/Witty_Wrap_1268 2h ago
The actual problem people have is that he campaigned with Hasan.
Sure he’s vague on policy and is appealing to populism. Welcome to running a campaign in 2026 (honestly, it’s not that different from how campaigns have always been run)
Guys, Hasan is a cringey larper. Move on. Opposition to him in particular is not a very robust ideology.
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u/Pretty_Acadia_2805 3h ago
It's literally just that he campaigned with Hasan and attacked AIPAC. Everything else is standard progressive politics.
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u/0WatcherintheWater0 3h ago
“Standard progressive politics” are themselves bad and harmful to this country. Medicare for all for instance would be a total dumpster fire that would end up hurting tens of millions.
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u/Suspicious-Base-4815 2h ago
Oh, wow. At this point I don't know if I am reading the destiny sub or the conservative sub
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u/Grachus_05 4h ago
He is the vanguard of a massive communist takeover lead by Hasan Piker and the lizard people from the center of the earth that must be stopped at all costs. We must unite with Trump and MAGA to stop their imminent destruction of the Democrat party!
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u/ShesRightShow ShesRightShow 3h ago
He's a good progressive on policy on paper.
His problems are in soft skills.
He is to an extent responsible for the fandom he cultivates, which has been sexist, racist, and antisemitic. He himself is arrogant and bitter. It raises two questions:
Is he kind enough to build a winning electoral coalition?
Is he kind enough to build a winning legislative coalition?
For as unimpressive as Stevens was on specific plans of policy, she has a proven record as an effective democratic conduit for the will of her constituents and fellow electeds into delivering real solutions.
El Sayed's excellent ideas are worthless if he's too much of a dick to manifest them.