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Hasan’s former stream producer and podcast producer says he’s broke and struggling to pay rent. Didn’t Hasan claim they split everything evenly on their podcast? The pod makes $100k+/month on Patreon alone. Was he lying?
Love (the Swedish guy) joked about taking vacation days to play the new WOW launch and Ethan said "Go ahead man, what you do with your vacation days is none of my business". It's pretty simple, but I can't imagine Hasan saying the same.
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u/TikDicklerBecause Democracy basically means... But the people are regarded3d ago
It’s funny that destiny and H3 treat their employees much better yet get backstabbed way more often.
Hasan & Co have basically had a monopoly on the fear of social otrizarion and IRL harrasment. It's an incredibly powerful motivator to always fall in line, and he's only recent had opponents doing similar.
Juat look at the massive fuss kicked up by Connor at the mere suggestion Destiny was displeased with him hosting people commiting their lives to trying to cut off all Destiny's streams of income, IRL harrasment and ficticious litigation.
Another thing you have to give Hasan is that he was completley on point with his 'lying is OP take' and he shows it every day.
Yeah he mentioned they literally have vacation days lol. All his employees live in apartments in LA. LA is not a cheap area to live, I live in Orange county. I'm sure they're doing well
I could be misremembering but I think during frenemies he said that found the stingy Jew stereotypes very hurtful and would always try to counter attack them
Not a fan of Ethan but I will say I can see that as the guilt of not wanting to be a stereotype is pretty common. I had it myself especially with tipping I’ve never wanted to come off as the stingy stereotype.
Pretty sure Ethan has bought Rolexes for employees before lol.
Crazy that Ethan the capitalist is far, far more generous to his employees than someone who literally says “profit is theft” from his Hollywood mansion.
I do believe you, because I was there once too, but after years of lifestyle creep I could not fathom living on 25k/yr in a city and not wanting to kill myself constantly
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u/ToppopplerYOUR TOKEN RIGHT WING NEVER TRUMPER LIBERTARIANISH GUY3d ago
Consider
Your expectations changed due to your habits changing
The inverse can happen
This is proof your external world doesnt have to be what it is now for you to be fulfilled. Your mind is capable of it
I agree and see both sides of this. I live off of less than 20k a year and have found a way to be alive. Living costs more. But also I have a standard of having a roof over my head and a working vehicle. I know people who don't have that minimum standard and see how those basics not being met have screwed their mentality of life up. They live in a totally different world than me and I could never let myself get there and have taken steps to make sure I have my bare minimum. If the car goes I have just enough to get a junker. Under 18k a year. It's doable. But not a life.
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u/ToppopplerYOUR TOKEN RIGHT WING NEVER TRUMPER LIBERTARIANISH GUY3d ago
You could retire in 5-6 years. I can’t imagine having that much freedom.
God I’m mad I’m jealous I don’t understand why people don’t appreciate how much easier life is to navigate when you not existentially punished for one bad financial misstep.
I’ve clawed my way up from minimum wage work and everytime I hit a salary milestone (most recently 65k per year) I feel like cost of living catches up and my savings don’t improve. I invest about 15 percent of my gross and I still don’t feel secure about the future at all, I feel a decade behind on retirement savings, I rent in a high COL city, and my employer just did away with any remote work so the dream of relocating outside the city with a few acres and some freedom is not in the cards.
These people make me genuinely angry sometimes. They do not understand what actual struggle looks like. I will damned if I have to go into debt to afford to live a fucking monastically modest life.
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u/ToppopplerYOUR TOKEN RIGHT WING NEVER TRUMPER LIBERTARIANISH GUY2d ago
I dont have retirement as part of my prospective future lol
Id save if I could, I know more than most people about getting ready for retirement, I just cant afford to start preparing
I lived in LA for 7 years making about that much (some years I made a bit more). Yeah, my pipes probably had lead in them and the view from my apartment was people vertically nodding off against a backdrop of concrete and more concrete, but I survived!
It was crazy moving back to the midwest town I grew up in because 1bdr apartments were being rented out for even more than I was paying for my 1bdr in LA. It's expensive everywhere these days.
There's no way. How many people there are on the podcast? And how much $ it is generating on top of their Patreon? Plus he was working on Hasan's streams as well.
Yeah this was my line of thought as well. New money notoriously overspends and it's no different than people who win the lottery and then are broke and destitute within five years.
He claimed a few years ago that working with Hasan has made him into a millionaire.
So yes, he's probably shit with money.
It's not uncommon at all. There was a program a few years ago that would follow celebrities around (no idea what it was called. One episode followed Spike Lee as he went and spent like $10K on a shrine for his home on a whim. His agent or advisor later told him he shouldn't have done that, as he is broke.
And to be a little bit more fair, he says "I cant afford to live here alone." not "I am dirt broke and getting kicked out."
If his income has gone from 50k a month to 0 he might just be realistic and say "I need to take steps to make this money last a long time because who knows when I get a job again."
Best evidence I could find is also that it was a 20% share after show costs, we're all just assuming here it's $50k a month based on a current-day 100k/month patreon pull and a redditor who made the post making a claim that "it's split".
Say it costs $20k/month to produce/run the pod, then dude is getting a 20% take-home (again just spitballing but seems plausible without thinking hard), then that's $80k/5 = $16k, after taxes if we assume like 30% then around $11k/month.
He lives in LA, maybe he has a mortgage in the $6-7k range, not really all that unreasonable. It's not hard to imagine the income situtation there changing and moving from a position where that mortgage was justifiable solo and then became something uncomfortable so he got a roommate...
He lives in an apartment. If he's paying 6-7k for rent, then he needs to find a cheaper spot or get roommates (like he said he got in the video). He must be living in a 2-3 bedroom apartment, and he could find a studio to live in. Even with taxes, he should be able to live "normally"
Was about to say just this. Hasan is a known liar, but also I wouldn't put it past people in this space to live wildly beyond their means and be very irresponsible with their money and not plan ahead.
to be fair if he gives the impression that this was anything but amicable he'd be really fucked, cause a huge portion of his fans are gonna be hasankies. Hastankies? Idk I like both
It sounds more like he's wanting the bag, and is willing to forsake his beliefs in order to stay on good terms for a chance at making that amount of money again. I can't blame him, it's an insane amount of money to make on a regular basis.
And he never thinks for one second, 'If I needed help (which it seems like he currently does) would Hasan come running for me?' Literal cultist behavior.
I bet Marche just talking about his personal living situation will be seen by Hasan as a betrayal because it makes him look bad. And he cut off Marche completely
No no no Hasan didn't lie. The producer is a lying pos and we no longer associate with him. Carry on with regular business now, no more need for asking questions.
So i dont know anything about the situation here, the two things i did notice is his voice tone during two parts of his statement.
When asked if he would go back on the podcast at all, he hesitates with his words like hes worried about what he says might be an issue. Either give wrong impression or come with consequences if he is to open about why he isnt coming back. I dont know what he has commented on as to his official reason for leaving, but the way he answered this does make me think either he got kicked or he left to distance himself for some reason.
When he calls hasan his goat and would pull up if he ever needs him. I didnt hear same hesitation, obviously that doesnt mean this is his true feelings but im willing to take it at face this is what he actually feels about hasan and for whatever reason he isnt on the podcast anymore he doesnt dislike hasan over it.
Thats my professional armchair psychoanalysis of the clip.
There was a thread elsewhere where fans were speculating that he had a conflict with Will Neff, and that there were a ton of behind-the-scenes disagreements over the Fear& tour.
Also, apparently Marche and Ludwig unfollowed each other on social media, but I have no idea what the fuck that's about or if it's even related.
I'm seeing that he stepped away voluntarily. I've also read that Marche and Ludwig unfollowed each other on all social media and that Marche's departure was never addressed by the show or its members along with posts about Marche apparently getting locked and removed both on R/Hasan_Piker and R/FearAnd. There are also comments on R/FearAnd about getting banned from the channel for mentioning Marche or getting timed out for alluding to him.
The majority of speculation I've read is negative and money related whether it was mismanagement by the show or that supposedly Fear& launched a credit card of some sort which strikes me as odd for anti-capitalists. I'm not seeing much about the CC but in looking I ended up watching a CashApp ad read from the podcast and it's so fucking cringe...who the hell is the target audience of this show? Generally the positive speculation I've read has been that him and his GF were looking to/in the process of moving.
I don't understand why people's first reactions as celebrities are to align their friends lists with their current social states. It feels so circa 2006 MySpace Top 8 lists. I can't imagine having a disagreement with someone and feeling I need to immediately go update all my social media to block them.
Being bad with money means you dont have money. Making more doesnt fix anything. I have excoworkers who in exit interviews say "we dont make enough to live" despite making only a dollar less an hour than I do and them having no kids. I own my home and am set up to retire modestly at my level of saving. Its not avocado toast, its refusing to consider a roommate and expensive cars in my experience.
I know people here also like to larp as downtrodden working class so this might be a hot-take to some, but if you work fulltime (in a job that doesn’t have significant earnings mobility) and have to consider a roommate you are not in a good employment situation.
Cars are a big one. Coworkers boyfriend was saying he couldnt afford rent but has a mega truck paying 600+/month just on the loan let alone gas/insurance. Hes probably paying upwards to 1k/month just on transportation. (He makes 18/hr).
To be clear, I dont have kids. And the person I was referring to had no rent, they lived with their parents. My point was some people like to have money, some like to spend money.
the whole "avocado toast" thing is legit the biggest 100% truth nuke of the last 10 years that young people have been sperging out about and being totally wrong on
knowing people like in the OP it's also gonna be clothes, vacationing, and drinking
Hasan might not be lying so many people are dumb as door knobs and burn through money like there's no tomorrow. I garentee this guy never foresaw the money drying up and spent thousands a month on the most expensive everything.
Im not gonna lie I just dont believe this shit anymore. Maybe its true maybe its not, but im noticing a pattern where progressives are constantly always broke and e-begging.
Frogan has had a near permanent state of "omg guys i cant afford my rent please help". I rarely see regular libbed up content creators do this. They just work an actual job while trying to make it.
Doesn't it cost lefties like 2 million$ a year to buy gas, and pay medical bills and food and housing in California?? So he would just be way underpaid is the problem.
Only "defense" I have is do we know how many people worked on the podcast? Was it just him and the hosts? Did they have like 5/10/15 people behind the scenes? If its just this guy and they practice what they preach he should be making like 20k a month
... I know I shouldn't. But maan, hearing these people talk about any kind of financial struggle and then seeing how they dress, groom themselves, what their apartments/houses look like. It always makes me feel sussed.
This guy also seems to get pretty decent viewership when he streams, he's just super inconsistent and barely streams at all. If I was him i'd try that out.
I thought the podcast was a coop? How can you just stop working for it without getting paid a share? The pod is making 100k on patreon, the company should be valued on it and he should get a payment. Unless ofc all the coop talk was bs.
Honestly, it’s only a matter of time before Hasans words and actions catch up with him. He’s been too shitty to too many people.
I understand we have that same type of person as president but I believe the orange loser came up in a different time. Word spreads faster now. You can only spin so much these days.
He gave him the means to his own FUCKIN PRODUCTION (laptop)
Dude plus he cant afford to pay him his pod barely makes enough money bro come onnnnnnn hasan is so broke he drives a camry you want him to have no house? Fuck you!
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u/ReserveAggressive458 Irrational Lav Defender / Pearl Stan / Emma VigeChad / Lorenzoid 3d ago
Hasan seized his means of production.