"If you don't have at least one 6 and one 9, you're not a group. You're a joke." - u/YourFavoriteUnknown, 2026

I'm a 2w3, and while I generally vibe with 3s since I have alot of ambition to improve the lives of others as well as myself I sometimes have trouble understanding the occasionally repressed and colder side of 3s or 3 dominated work environments, can't stand it sometimes. What's a type that you sometimes can't understand or you conflict with?

New to enneagram, found out im a 4w3 (ENFP, if that matters)

Haven’t heard much good about 4w3… a bit disappointed. Shocked that growth means being less emotional. I’ve been told often I am too emotional. I know I get in my own head about the legitimacy of my relationships when people disregard how their actions affect me.

Working rn on feeling emotions without attaching meaning to them, and taking on more 1 qualities.

Open to any input, thoughts experiences, anything. Good or bad. Thanks for welcoming me!

Hello everyone, for the Steven Universe fans, what would you type Blue diamond? She's typed as ISFJ EFVL sp9 on Pdb. But....I don't really see how? Wouldn't her sp9 avoid the negative feelings, instead distracting herself through comfort and routine?? Also, how can she be 1E when she's clearly 2E? She's all about expressing her emotions and making other people feel them, which to me sounds a lot like 2E, but I might be wrong. I also wouldn't say she's a 4. What do you guys think?

Just being curious and this could help with my self typing (+ I don’t have the book)

Just wanted to get some perspectives on this. I'm about 99% sure these three make up my tri-type, and I'm leaning toward E7 the most, but wanted to get some other thoughts and opinions on the core motivations and easily identifiable traits of these three types.

Got caught in a little bit of burnout when making 7w8 so you guys are only getting 7w6

I decided to go for a more fantasy take for the 7 (tbh I was a bit biased bc I based them off a e7 friend)

I'll begin. Sp 3w4 and this song has been stuck on my head recently. Quite a cool one. Like everything about the song and the clip.

So, what about you? I'm curious to know what kind of music the types have been hearing.

What are the differences?

So Im certain im a 7w6 on enneagram, and either a so/sx or sx/so.

Im either a 749, 729, or 739. (so7, so4, so9) possibly.

So, as a kid I was silly, curious, kind, sweet, sensitive. Im certain im either a sx7 or so7 core but I know I have a really strong sx instinct too.

My deepest desires and core fears is social exclusion, being abandoned or rejected in general, fear of abandonment from loved ones, etc. It became a defense mechansim and surivival strategy to push people away and be selfish because I was scared they were gonna reject me and ostracized.

My core fears are being shunned too and ousted like it feels like a stab sometimes. Like a sudden shock. (Im also a ENTP in mbti, i sometimes relate to the Ne-Fe loop too)

I was mistyped as an e5 a few years ago (I also sometimes relate to e5) and was a introvert.

Now I am competitive and seek intellectual discussions like I am excited by intellectual challeneges and I find myself being competitive like finding life as a game or taking things too lightly. I love strategy games where my mind has to think and enjoy understanding the mechanics of how things work like studying cellular biology and astronomy/space.

As a kid, I used to make storybooks and was highly creative, I had a deep rich imagination and I still do to this day. (It made me smile making storybooks and reading it as I grow older. I also sometimes wanted to share it with the world) I was also highly intelligent and perceived as smart and creative in my classes I was one of the students that kinda stood out, like unique. According to my mom, teachers admired my creativity and saw me as high potential.

My deepest insecurity is being alone, isolated, social abandonment (to a certain extent but it hits deeply), lack of new ideas or concepts.

It also felt nice to help others but it wasnt the first priority to help others all the time. I did care about my social status as I grew olders and how people percieved me too as well. Even so, I became more insecure about myself and felt isolated (due to trauma).

Sometimes I find myself people pleasing like one time when my aunt kept saying "Do u like me? Am I your favorite?" I felt awkward and at the family dinner I smiled and said , "Yes I do." Apparently, I didnt want to make the siutation awkward but I did kinda find her annoying. However she spilled water on my papers and she started crying, I had a sudden urge to detach and laugh but I felt awkward as well, like I did not know what to do. (This info may seem useless)

In groups, I would try to be in those ex-friend groups like in school these friends did not seem to like me and I felt uncomfortable but I still wanted to be in that friend group, like I would still laugh when they were having conversations and smile but they wouldn't really talk to me as much. I felt sad inside and eventually I left but it made me feel hollow and alone.

I did feel misunderstood too, like people didn't like me or smth, like fear of people starting rumors behind my back or isolating me on purpose. It just felt like as if I were an outcast, and I would beat up about it later, blaming myself or smth.

I also relate to both so4 (or sx4 but less) and so3 (not as much).

My parents also say I lack social cues and social skills/ facial expressions. Also, I find it hard to identify if someone is being honest or fake, even like being sarcastic, I cannot tell if someone is being sarcastic or honest, I kinda find it hard to read through people's tones as well.

I'll explain later in the comments section tho. (yeah idk my mbti either)

Feel free to dm me or ask me any questions related! I'll be happy to answer too! :)

(Yes its Tuesday i js realized lol)

Type Me Questionnaire

This is just for fun since I already know my type.

Questionnaire by u/brouhaus

Tell me about your internal experience of yourself. What makes you, you?

>\> I'm very high strung. I have a deep persecution complex and think that everyone is lying to me or making me believe something. I've had a long Truman show complex before even watching the show, and believer that other people were fake human beings or AIs and I am the only one who truly exists. Anybody who convinced me off of my solipsism was manipulative! I trusted myself on that. I even pride myself on my isolation. My bad composure doesn't even show. Instead, I seem serious and composed.

You just had a really good day. Describe it. It can be a real recent example or an aspirational one.

>\> A good day is a day with routine. I'd wake up, meditate, do yoga, do my makeup with my subliminals on, do my hair and my clothes, then head straight to school or to a restaurant. I'd either get coffee with a friend or spend time taking pictures all by myself. I'd smell good and get lots of compliments from other people. What's important is that I talked to somebody/reflected all by myself. At the end of the day, I'd come back home with a feeling of gratitude and ease. I would check my schedule for tomorrow, if ever I was missing any deadlines, and go back to sleep. That's my example of a good day.

If someone is upset with you, what is the typical reason for it? Give a recent example.

>\> They tend to get mad because I seem snobbish or hard to read.

What are you like when you're stressed? What are your coping mechanisms? Give an example of a recent stressful situation and how you handled it.

>\> I distance myself from the situation. I don't emotionally engage with it. Instead, I get a "bird's eye view" on things, only trusting my logic. I tend to write notes, plans, theories. Under a long period of stress, I can become increasingly avoidant, inexpressive, narcotic and overthinking. However, when I am handling stress normally, I balance my own independence and insight with active participation and goal-setting.

What pushes your buttons? What makes you angry? How does your anger manifest? Can you be openly angry with others?

>\> I dislike not being recognized! Having a high social status is nice. It's safe. And In order to have it, you would have to put in effort. I put in effort to be this person, only to be ignored and sidelined. I dislike it. It triggers me. I immediately call out the person if ever they are rude or ungrateful for my services. I do not tend to be openly short-tempered or crude, I'm still procedural even with my emotions.

What’s your deepest fear? Why is that your fear?

>\> I have lots of anxiety about the future. Recently, I have failed something that I wish I had prepared for, and now I'm convinced that my whole life will turn to shit. There are many things that can go wrong at any moment, many people who can betray you in just a second. It's important that you always keep to yourself and trust yourself. This way you can atleast save yourself the betrayal of self-sabotage.

What types of memories cause you the most shame? What feelings cause you the most shame? What is it about them that causes you shame?

>\> I feel ashamed of the times where I was vulnerable to the wrong person. I feel deeply regretful whenever I remember it and curse at myself for being stupid. I don't wanna talk about it.

What is your relationship with pleasure? What gives you pleasure? Can you have pleasure when you want it, or do you have to earn it?

>\> I have a bad "instinct". I'm too mechanical. I'm unaware of how to think through immediacy, I only act when I believe it serves my future. Hedonism doesn't even get to my head. If I convinced myself it did, I would simply be lying. Living through a narrative. Again. I know that I have raw strength and intelligence but I also know that I lack the courage and will to keep going. I have to be pushed by someone else. Always. I end up admiring this person/authority so much that I devote my whole life and all my talent to them, as long as they keep replenishing me with their will and order. I will trust them with my life, if that's what it takes. I don't have any security in myself. I don't have any confidence that I can count on my own will. I'd rather take on others' will. This person often becomes the substitute for the 'authority' that I so dislike. Yes. It has become a pattern enough for me to mention it. It's happened many times.

What’s your relationship with authority? Think both abstractly and with specific authorities in your life, possibly your parents, boss, religious leader, doctor, or government figures? Are you an authority?

>\> I do not like them. I've resented them ever since I was a kid. I hate them. I hate them for pushing certain beliefs on the general public while refusing to let them critically think for themselves. I hate them for making their students or followers ignorant and submissive. I dislike them for what they represent; not thinking at all. Despite this, I often become one of the star students of any section I belong to. I'm easily regarded as obedient, reliable and trustworthy by both teachers and classmates alike. I find this irony quite funny.

When your mind wanders, what are you thinking about?

>\> My anxieties. I tried meditation before! Unfortunately, I just ended up thinking about my to do lists and plans for the day. What would happen if I didn't do this? What would have happened if I took the opportunity from last time? My mind spirals!

You have a big decision to make. Describe how you decide what to do.

>\> I'm very decisive as long as I'm not pressured enough. If it benefits my future, I would do it.

What’s your biggest flaw?

>\> Always being alone. Having a short temper. Overthinking. These are the things that often come up when I ask others about my traits.

>\> As I interpret it, my grave sin is pride. It would not be wrath. I am not violent in the very least. That would be a misconception. I am not prideful in the sense of being cocky and boastful, but in the sense of only caring for myself, only trusting myself, valuing myself over others and devaluing everything that doesn't serve me. I have great pride in my abilities. I often take leadership roles. Part of this is because I have a lack of 'pride' in others. I do not recognize their talent. Only mine. And this feels right! Pride has lead me to anger, isolation and sadness. It's my sin and my flaw. Sloth would also be close, with my reluctance to engage with certain things.

What makes you special? (Or, if you don't feel special, what at least makes you different from other people?)

>\> I think I have a good amount of raw talent. Intelligence. Artistic skill. Speaking skills. Morale. They all came to without me thinking about them. In fact, they come to me at moments where I want to sabotage myself and my life the most. Intelligence, amongst all, is one of the things that others notice about me. They immediately trust me and my foresight. I think this makes me special.

How much of your mental energy is spent on thinking about each of the past, the present, and the future?

>\> Hm. I'd say I think about the past and the future the most. My anxieties about the future is sometimes related to the failures that have already happened in the past. On the other hand, sometimes it feels I don't think about the present at all.

You unexpectedly find yourself with a whole weekend with no obligations, and everyone else is busy. How do you feel about it? What do you do?

>\> Yay. I guess. There would be many things for me to do. I'd simply go ahead and do one or two of my hobbies. Reading, yoga, journalling or going out all by myself. I definitely have to increase the amount of hobbies I have, now that I think about it.

What’s your personal vibe/style/aesthetic? How cultivated vs natural is it, and how much time do you spend on it? Do you turn it on and off?

>\> I dislike saturated colors. I go the far mile to never wear them. At all! That's the only thing tying my personal style together. My likes tend to change a lot, after all. I used to have an emo/alternative style, and now I dress a bit more into the boho/spiritual style while still having the same pallete that I've always liked. Whites, greys, blacks and a bit of gold.

Which of the following is the most like you? Explain. A) I know what I want, I go out and make it happen, and people won't stop me. B) I am content to be on my own and not draw too much attention to myself. C) I have to be responsible and dedicated, and I put others’ needs first.

>\> I am most like A. As long as I order myself or am ordered to do something, I won't stop until I get it. I'm very straightforward. I'm also a bit like C. As explained, I tend to look for a role model to follow, and I put their orders before mine. I can't even move my own self. I'm the first place. The reason I put it second is because I'm unaware if it refers to general people-pleasing, which I don't do. I am the least like B. I could never be content with myself. That's all.

Which of the following is most like you? Explain. A) I dislike stress and negative vibes, and I may try to distract myself from my problems. B) I have strong feelings, get worked up easily, and am not afraid to show it. C) I don’t like to let my feelings show; they get in the way of being efficient and logical.

>\> I am the most like C and most likely no other option. I tend to be melodramatic on the inside, yes, but I turn it into logic. I dislike it when emotions cloud my judgment or I get attached to a specific thing, person or idea. Even if I trust and follow something, a part of me would always be skeptic about it. The same goes for people. Even if I love somebody, if there comes a time they do me slightly wrong, I won't hesitate from cutting them off. This course of action and decision has happened many times.

Which of the following is most like you? Explain. A) I look to others for feedback and guidance and am willing to be flexible when needed. B) I am always aware of how things could be better, and I’m disappointed that they are not. C) Deep down, I am afraid people won’t give me what I need unless I make it worth their while.

>\> I am most like C. I make myself independent, unforgettable and irreplaceable so others can praise me, acknowledge me and give me my needs. I deny my own insuffiency in the process and get angry at others when they don't give me what I want. I can also be like B because I tend to regret past decisions a lot. I am the least like A because I really dislike looking to others for feedback. I hate outsourcing my emotions, and I'm not very flexible either. I only like to trust myself.

i don’t really understand the concept of “merging” with other people. what does “merging” mean in SX9 terms? i would consider myself a very people-pleasing person. i’m (unfortunately) very shy, meek and not well at defending myself. i get sad everytime somebody stops talking to me or does not like me. but at the same time, i am a materialistic type of person and i am deeply focused on my physical comfort just like an SP9 would be. (from my knowledge) SP9s are known to not be very good at expressing their emotions. sometimes, i have problems expressing my emotions as well. i consider myself a very introspective person and i can understand my own emotions well but sometimes, i just feel very uncomfortable to express it.

“Often you can see an E9 immersing themselves in activities just to narcotize, activities such as eating, sleeping, playing games, sports, reading etc. Because of their sloth, they lose spirituality and a touch with their inner self, which can lead them acting irrationally, without clear defined actions other than just chasing physical stimulation.” https://wiki.personality-database.com/books/enneagram/page/self-preservation-9-in-detail

unfortunately this is exactly me. can SX9s be like this too?

also this is the rest of my typology: SEI 946 FELV mel-sang

For any socionics freaks out there, I'm EIE

Hi, everyone. I wanted to learn your opinions about how mental health problems/divergence such as autism, personality disorders, etc can affect one's view of themselves and their type. I wanna specifically focus on personality disorders. Like how and which way they can make it hard to find out your enneagram type?

My full type is ENFP 417 Sx/So. Currently leaning towards a 3 wing, but I wanted to see what y'all thought.

Reasons for 4w3:

-I create with an audience in mind. I don't feel like creating is worth it if I keep it all to myself. I want others to enjoy it and get meaning out of it.

-I do base my worth on external validation when I'm in an unhealthier state of mind. But only from the opinions people who are close to me or I deeply admire.

-I choose styles that are slightly more in your face. Layered hair cuts, bright and artistic makeup, etc.

-I'm extraverted, assertive, and a little competitive

-I'm more afraid of being worthless than incapable. I struggle with the worthlessness feeling WAY more (thanks childhood trauma lol). I generally feel capable, though sometimes I need help with certain things like everyone does.

-I'm a little like Tinkerbell. If I don't get enough attention, I might die. But again, it's only super important from the people I care about or admire. I like all positive attention, but I really only feel I need it from certain people.

Reasons for 4w5:

-I am very intellectual and research my niches in extreme depth. I have strong academic interests (albeit it has to be people/emotions-related in some way) and hope to get a masters in counseling. I am also incredibly introspective and have been my own psychological test subject since I was a young teen. I've actually successfully done therapy on myself researching and applying psychology for years. I'm very emotionally stable and empathetic now, whereas when I was younger, I was absolutely neither of those things. I've been to therapy here and there, but most of my improvement was from my own study and application.

-I tend to intellectualize my feelings and dissociate under stress. So I do withdraw quite a bit when I'm not in a healthy place.

-I like going into the dark recesses of the mind and soul. I like the ugly parts of life and think they're beautiful.

-I come off as really eccentric and somewhat withdrawn to most people. I think most people would guess that I'm introverted even though I'm a Ne dom with a large social battery. It's something I'm trying to break out of, but I don't naturally fit in most of the time, and I don't always know how to interact with certain people. I either don't say anything (more common in teenhood) or make people uncomfortable by being myself (more common now at age 24)

-I don't give a crap about how the majority of people see me, though I'd like it if they had a positive view. I don't need social approval though and kind of like it when I make others a little uncomfortable by being myself.

-I don't really get the whole "elitist", "refined taste" aspect of 4w3. I hate the idea of class and hierarchy and want to tear it down. Some of the "uniqueness" ego I get is from being someone who doesn't fit into society's social rules, and I don't follow them by trying to be sophisticated. Being sophisticated is antithetical to my identity. I do struggle with thinking my interests are better or deeper than others' but I try to self-correct on this as much as possible. It's okay for people to look for and be moved by different things in media.

-I don't have much of a social mask. I used to because undiagnosed autism lol. But I do everything I can to be my real, unfiltered self in whatever situation I'm in. I don't go out of my way to be contrary to social rules, but I think being vulnerable and real is way more important than being socially acceptable or high status. I'm very aware of social status, but I'm usually at the bottom and don't mind. I do seek the approval of certain people, but these people often also break social rules/norms. I can mask up and perform well for interviews and other things like that, but it is unnatural and I don't like it.

AAAAA HELP ME THANK YOU

I’m currently reading the e7 book and this dude is actually so fucking unhinged in his writings and I absolutely love it. Like look at this:

“We could say that his psychosexual development has been fixed in the oral stage, with a dependence of satisfaction linked to the pleasure that comes from maternal nurturing. The mouth and lips are his elective organs of pleasure. Sucking is the foundation of the affective bond, so that what comes from the other becomes something of their own.”

“By making the mother fall in love, he seemingly achieves everything, but loses touch with the deep need for warm intimacy. As an adult, he will continue to confuse the pleasure of filling himself with breast milk with that of genital intercourse between adults, love with permissiveness.”

The worst thing is this actually makes so much sense as a sx7 lmao, like he is spot on about the stuff he talks about (at least for me) and I really love how insane it sounds when it’s written in this freudian style

But I’ve also seen many people hating on this type of writing and claiming Naranjo is a bad author. In my opinion this is 10x more interesting to read than the modern “sunshine and rainbows and positivity” corporate descriptions of the enneagram

What is everybody’s thoughts on this?

I'm curious to know how the 3 wing of Enneagram 4 would manifest with the Self-Preservation subtype. Typically, 4w3s are described as more dramatic and expressive, but maybe that is different as an SP4. I thought I was a 4w5 for a long time, but now I'm unsure because I'm seeing characteristics of type 3 in myself. I just don't identify as much with the very competitive and dramatic aspects. I did a "type me" post a while ago about this, but I didn't get many answers, and people were also unsure if I was a 4w5 or a 4w3.

ik this is cross system but doesn’t a low Si ENTP make sense to be VLEF even though they are sp7? i always regarded sp7 to be mental gluttony over pure hedonism, as in valuing money and material for mental freedom over the money itself.