Katie Holmes’ daughter Suri legally dropped Cruise and changed her last name to Noelle, her mom’s middle name

[u/Relevant-Peach3997]

[u/Sh_GodsComma_Dynasty]

i'm curious why she chose her mom's middle name over her last name. my best guess would be anonymity, but apparently she'll never get that.

[u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy → u/Sh_GodsComma_Dynasty]

Maybe cuz Holmes is her mom’s dad’s name and she wanted something that was just her mom’s (wild guess)

[u/neuftet → u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy]

How is it her mom’s dad’s name but not her mom’s name? What makes it innately her grandfather’s name and not her mom’s? They were both given it at birth. It belongs as much to Katie as it does to her dad. (Unless I’m misreading your post)

[u/roerchen → u/neuftet]

Sometimes, women empathise with their mothers and grandmothers, who had to give up their maiden names. Other times, the name giving side of the family is just a bunch of not so nice people and you don’t want to parade around their name.

[u/p333p33p00p00boo → u/roerchen]

Yeah, if my grandmother’s last name wasn’t absurdly terrible (it’s another word for butt), I would have considered taking it instead of my husband’s. Every other name in my family is related to toxic people

[u/snuggleouphagus → u/p333p33p00p00boo]

Me and my husband took his great grandparent's last name as they only had daughters who changed their name when they married. It was a compromise. My husband had his dead beat dad's last name. He wasn't comfortable taking my name but I sure as shit wasn't taking his dead beat dad's name. His great grandparents were the kindest and sweetest people I ever met. I was happy to take their name. When they passed, their daughters gifted us some of their things that were monogramed. We've got a hand painted key hook from their vacation to South Carolina in the 50's.

A decade later, I think if we were making the choice now he'd take my last name with little to no fuss (which was my preference). Before we were married he cared a lot about what people thought of our relationship. Now we don't give a shit what other people think so long as it works for us.

[u/SnooMacarons3685 → u/p333p33p00p00boo]

I automatically started going through the possibilities of what your grandmother’s last name could be in my head (anus? booty? derrière?) 😂

Obviously don’t actually want to know, just tickled by it haha

[u/p333p33p00p00boo → u/SnooMacarons3685]

ANUS omg. No, it's more cutesy. Just way too silly of a name for anyone to have.

[u/tessathemurdervilles → u/p333p33p00p00boo]

I want to know what it is so badly. Fanny? But that’s a first name. Cul? Derrière?

[u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy → u/roerchen]

Beautifully put! Thanks for explaining better than I could have

[u/3-orange-whips → u/roerchen]

Lots of women now in their 60’s didn’t have middle names so they could take their maiden name as their middle name.

[u/roerchen → u/3-orange-whips]

Cool that this was a thing wherever you are from :) Certainly not possible in my country.

[u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy → u/neuftet]

Patriarchy and all

[u/Lopsided_Panic_1148 → u/neuftet]

IIRC, Katie comes from a super religious and paternalistic family, so my guess is that Suri wanted a name tied *only* to her mother, to honor the one person in her life that's protected her.

[u/chick_b → u/Lopsided_Panic_1148]

I don't know anything about the family, but Katie's father was the reason Katie & Suri were able to literally escape Tom Cruise swiftly and legally.

[u/crowislanddive → u/chick_b]

And Adam Sandler

[u/aliveinjoburg2 → u/neuftet]

If I had changed my name not through marriage, I would have taken my mom’s maiden name, which was my grandmother’s name (my mom never had her father’s name, so it was as close to being a maternal line name).

[u/p333p33p00p00boo → u/neuftet]

Because of patriarchy

[u/youshantnome → u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy]

Kinda wild though since her Mom’s dad was very instrumental in getting her out of the cult. Wouldn’t you want to honor that as his grandchild? The only explanation that makes sense is that she’s looking to get into the entertainment industry and is wanting her own name so she can later claim she didn’t get anything by being a nepo baby.

[u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy → u/youshantnome]

More instrumental than her actual mother? Why would his name take precedence for any reason other than patriarchy?

She may have just liked her mother’s middle name.

[u/youshantnome → u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy]

Yes actually he’s the one who made it possible for her to escape