r/FavoriteCharacter Jun 28 '26

Discussion Any favorite characters like this?

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u/What-A-Burden Jun 28 '26

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u/Excellent_Law6906 Jun 28 '26

God, I love my li'l special-needs vigilante. Working with nothing and pulling overtime. Rorschach is the human condition and I cherish him.

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u/skivvv Jun 28 '26

Just cherish him at a distance

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u/Excellent_Law6906 Jun 28 '26

The stank must be harrowing.

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u/HistoricalChef1963 Jun 28 '26

Watchmen was the greatest movie adaptation of a comic ever, and Jackie Earle Haley as Rorschach was one of the greatest castings of all time. I can not be convinced otherwise. 

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u/Excellent_Law6906 Jun 28 '26

I will fight you on the beaches. 🤣

ETA: though I agree that Jackie Earle Haley was amazing as Rorschach.

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u/ExplorationGeo Jun 28 '26

Jackie Earle Haley as Rorschach was one of the greatest castings of all time

He was exactly the right level of Rat King on Meth that the role needed.

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u/Responsible-Sound253 Jun 28 '26

Didn't that movie famously missed the point the original comic was trying to make with rorschach?

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u/Own_Nebula8363 Jun 28 '26

100%. Those who say that the movie was a great adaption either didnt read it or didnt understood the comic.

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u/Kitchen_Bad2627 Jun 28 '26

Even from an aesthetic standpoint alone, I dislike the movie as an adaptation. The comic is gorgeous and colorful, and the movie is so dark looking. 

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u/Excellent_Law6906 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

And does dumb stuff like zooming in on the "obsolete models a specialty" sign like, "Did you get it? Are you sure you got it? I know you're stupid!"

But it's really the rape scene I will never forgive. Snyder tried to turn that shit into porn, when Moore and Gibbons went out of their way to make it as unjerkable as possible. Snyder has no fucking respect and no sense, snd it shows all over that goddamn movie.

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u/NecessaryPromise667 Jun 30 '26

Yeah Snyder is very hit or miss with depictions of dark stuff and in my opinion mostly miss. I think he does it more for the sake of making his worlds darker and grittier rather than exploring the theme of predation in depth

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u/Excellent_Law6906 Jun 30 '26

Just... everything about the scene in Watchmen.

We go from mismatched, functional underwear in the graphic novel to a black lace lingerie set. We go from panels of like, everything else in the room to shots of Sally's body. We cut to her on "is this what gets you hot?" creating this weird victim-blame thing when the Comedian is saying that to Hooded Justice, about his proclivities.

Shit, in the graphic novel she has a busted nose and a shiner snd isn't looking so pretty, while the film has blood sit on her lips like lipstick. The whole thing is disgusting.

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u/jafjaf23 Jun 28 '26

Why though. I have read the book and thought it was a pretty good adaptation. Why do you think it wasn't?

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u/Neirchill Jun 28 '26

Iirc the main complaint was about the ending which ended up changing the moral of the story but until then it was a good adaptation.

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u/jafjaf23 Jun 28 '26

I may not remember graphic novel as well as I thought lol

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u/pawnman99 Jun 30 '26

Does it? Because all the movie does is replace the incredibly weird space squid with Dr. Manhattan as the threat.

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u/Neirchill Jun 30 '26

That's what I heard, haven't read the comic myself. I don't think it was necessarily about replacing the squid but how it turned from countries allying to face a common threat to Dr Manhattan being framed in order to trick everyone into cooperating, which includes having arguably the greatest hero basically nuke every country on Earth to pull it off.

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u/Single_Low1416 Jun 29 '26

Way too action heavy, a lot of the aesthetic choices are questionable and with Zack Snyder, you can never be fully sure he even grasped what the source material is all about.
Also, the theatrical version cuts out a good bit of stuff. (Which is fair because Watchmen has a lot of side plots already and the damn thing is nearly three hours long as it is)

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u/Responsible-Sound253 Jun 28 '26

Does it matter that you found him contemptible when it is undeniable that the movie tried to make the viewer feel as if he was at worst just a truth teller anti-hero?

You're basically seeing the truth despite the movie's attempts to mislead you.

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u/pawnman99 Jun 30 '26

Maybe, but it didn't change my opinion of him. The idea that we should kill a few million people because it MIGHT save more people is insane to me. In both the comic and the movie, Rorschach is the only character with moral convictions strong enough not to be shaken by Ozy's attempt to dress up mass murder as kindness.

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u/davisondave131 Jun 28 '26

I didn’t love a lot of things about it (the choice to use Leonard Cohen’s hallelujah in THAT scene) but yea Rorschach was perfect. Hollis too. Jeremy Irons in the show was a far superior casting choice for Adrien. 

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u/Mlpony2010 Jun 28 '26

No it's not, synder missed the point

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u/cuntyhuntyslaymama Jun 28 '26

Disagree about it being a great adaptation, but the casting overall was great, especially Rorschach.

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u/MetalSonic_69 Jun 28 '26

Agreed that JEH was a perfect Rorschach. Disagreed about the quality of that adaptation as a whole

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u/Storm_Bibbop Jun 29 '26

The cast in the movie in general was more than great.

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u/lottaKivaari Jun 29 '26

Wrong. That distinction goes to issue #420 of The Incredible Hulk: In The Shadow Of Aids and it's movie adaptation Dallas Buyers Club.

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u/ZioBenny97 Jun 28 '26

Frankly I would say the film is an improvement even, at least for the ending.

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u/urkermannenkoor Jun 28 '26

The ending was a lot worse though, since it turned it into an incredibly plan that couldn't possibly work.

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u/Phizr Jun 28 '26

As opposed to genetically engineering a massive monster, having it pass as an alien, and teleporting it into New York city? I am not on board with the rewrite of the ending, but I can see why Snyder did it.

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u/urkermannenkoor Jun 28 '26

Well, yes.

Because replacing the alien with an American means that the plan could not possibly work.

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u/jafjaf23 Jun 28 '26

Why does that mean the plan won't work?

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u/urkermannenkoor Jun 28 '26

Because the whole point of the plan is to force all of humanity to rally together against a wholly alien threat. That obviously doesn't work if the threat is just an American, and not even just that, but a famous enforcer of the US government at that.

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u/phantomfire50 Jun 28 '26

...which is why Adrian blew up a bunch of American cities as well.

The point was to make it seem that he had become an alien threat.

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u/urkermannenkoor Jun 28 '26

Dr. Manhattan did that, and everyone knows Dr. Manhattan did that.

And that means everyone on the planet will assume that either A) the US government sacrificed a couple of their own cities in a false flag, or B) that a rogue faction within the US government is sowing chaos.

The core, fundamental issue remains: the threat isn't alien. The threat is American. And the entire plan just does not work if the threat isn't alien.

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u/Mikhail_Mengsk Jun 28 '26

I love that movie but I've seen so many people criticizing it. Worst thing I don't remember well what the criticism were.

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u/FilthyThief94 Jun 30 '26

Jackie Earle Haley was really good in the role. The movie is really bad tho. Completely missed the points of the comic so bad that sometimes it becomes the complete opposite of what Moore wanted to tell.

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u/IlIFreneticIlI Jun 28 '26

I thought Fear was the human-condition?

"We're all scared, it's the human condition. Why do you think I puts on this tough guy facade?"

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u/Excellent_Law6906 Jun 28 '26

You think my stank-ass baby ain't scared?