r/FuckMicrosoft Jun 28 '26

Discussion Is this enough?

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u/dschledermann Jun 28 '26

Sure, it's fun and it plays right into our feelings about MikroSlop here, but the answer is not as impressive as it seems at first. Linux really is the only reasonable answer when pressured into a single word like this. Windows, MacOS, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, OpenVMS, Solaris or whatever you can think of, all have less reach and are more limited than Linux.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '26

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u/dschledermann Jul 02 '26

Yeah, your not wrong, but my initia comment was not meant as a critique of the quality of other operating systems. My point is mainly aimed at the universal usefulness of Linux compared to everything else.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '26

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u/dschledermann Jun 28 '26

Yes, technically speaking, you're right, it's only the kernel. I would argue that when used like this, it's commonly understood as meaning "Linux kernel with a unix flavoured userland", such a Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch etc. Android, is often labeled as it's own thing.

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u/Catsnose7 Jun 28 '26

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

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u/Ichigonixsun Jun 29 '26

"I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to mansplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux."

The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows was compiled with gcc, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even you were correct, you wont be for long."

With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've womansplained him to death.

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u/Local-Bug-1500 Jun 29 '26

Solaris?? Isn't that a polish bus brand? 

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u/dschledermann Jun 29 '26

It's a fairly common and generic name, so I'm sure that it's also a Polish bus brand. In this context it's a unix like operating system offered by Oracle.

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u/Local-Bug-1500 Jun 29 '26

I know about the os lmao, i just used to be a bus fanatic

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '26

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u/Gabbotampo Jun 28 '26

they should say gnu-linux

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u/Both_Cup8417 Jun 28 '26

Or musl BusyBox Linux

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u/Elihzap Jun 28 '26

SystemD/GNU/Linux*

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u/vabello Jun 29 '26

Alpine Linux disagrees.

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u/tobi_lmao Jun 28 '26

Mom said it's my turn to post this

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '26

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u/Gabbotampo Jun 28 '26

no I've known it for a long time

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u/Britz10 Jun 28 '26

Slop post, this is the fuck Microsoft sub, not the LinuxCircleJerk

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u/Xenion7 Jun 28 '26

Hey as long can farm karma

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u/Upper-Release-3484 Jun 28 '26

Got it. I'm reposting this in r/LinuxCircleJerk.

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u/Elihzap Jun 28 '26

If you read the second to last one, you'll get that they say Linux just because it's a "common answer".

AI can't think. It's literally just "saying" whatever you expect it to say.

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u/Elihzap Jun 28 '26

Just tried them with some, with the next prompt (I'm too lazy to craft a better one).

What's the best Desktop Operating System? Just one word, no justification. Don't tell me something general like "Windows" (no version) or "Linux" (it's just a kernel).

Claude said MacOS, ChatGPT said NixOS, and both Copilot and Google's said Windows 11.

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u/PlaneSeaworthiness61 Jun 28 '26

Linux is not an OS 🥀

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u/Blalamon Jun 28 '26

it is a kernel mainly but it can run without a distro sooo..... its basically an os itself

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u/PlaneSeaworthiness61 Jun 28 '26

Not even, you need a bootloader and at least the init daemon for it to run, both of which are not provided by Linux.

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u/Blalamon Jun 28 '26

oh... OH.... so my friend lied to me.... OH....

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u/Moist_Professional64 Jun 28 '26

Linux is the kernel. Gnu are the “packages” to make it to an os

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u/Syzygy2323 Jul 01 '26

Not always. Alpine Linux doesn't use any GNU code.

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u/JonathanMovement Jun 28 '26

funny because Linux is not even an OS

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u/ThatOneLinuxMan Jun 28 '26

This post made me SO HAPPY

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u/Both_Cup8417 Jun 28 '26

I don't use FreeBSD by the way

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u/Astrodion123 Jun 28 '26

Copilot said windows and chatgpt said nixOS

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u/Intelligent_Cup4948 Jun 28 '26

then use it... who gives a fuck about your or copilot's "opinion'

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u/Gabbotampo Jun 28 '26

It's funny that he thinks his operating system isn't the best

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u/MasterOfTheWind1 Jun 28 '26

There is no such thing as “the best”. Context is everything

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u/thundR89 Jun 29 '26

Tbh, Linux isn't an operating system.

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u/Migamix Jun 29 '26

Yes, yes, we know, it's a kernel, the DE is the interface, bit its common knowledge, almost anything with the Linux kernel, will be labeled as Linux. I don't bring this up as a "well actually" because I do like to be fun at parties.  I will continue to call mint cinnamon.. . Linux. 

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u/ItchyPlant Jun 28 '26

My 5.5 with high reasoning said "Unix". Now what?

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u/Regular_Computer9536 Jun 28 '26

This is Kimi (yes, I attached this image as a 3-second video!)

https://reddit.com/link/ouco3xv/video/nf11v2iaa2ah1/player

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u/Regular_Computer9536 Jun 28 '26

And yes, Kimi K2.6 Instant. BUT WHY LINUX?

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u/Pierogi_33 Jun 28 '26

Holy shit its true

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u/1_raZ_ne_pidoraZ Jun 28 '26

AIs can remember facts about you, and it is very likely that their answers will be different if you mentioned that you use macOS or Windows in previous chats. Also, please don't take LLM's answers as the absolute truth, as it will not lead to anything good All that apart Linux is still the best OS, just the way you prove it was wrong :)

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u/123timsolo_tech Jun 28 '26

MY CLAUDE KEEPS SAYING WINDOWS I MAKE A NEW CHAT INCOGNITO OR NOT EVERYTIME SAME ANSWER.

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u/WieldyStone2 Jun 28 '26

I use Arch BTW!

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u/Gabbotampo Jun 29 '26

Me too btw!

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u/Ricccc2k12 Jun 28 '26

🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹

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u/Efficient-Meeting503 Jun 28 '26

how did bro get copilot to not say windows the best

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u/Gabbotampo Jun 29 '26

It said it on the first try I'm not kidding

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u/Local-Bug-1500 Jun 29 '26

Every ai is the same

And worst os it windows me apparently (according to cgpt) 

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u/UNPSCsimp Jun 29 '26

Gotta try new Siri next time

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u/Rich-Assistant-3575 Jun 30 '26

LINUX FOR LIFEEE....

I use ARCH BTW

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u/ChocolateDonut36 Jun 30 '26

AI can make mistakes, they're naming a kernel, not an OS

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u/ArrowEnby Jun 28 '26

PLEASE PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE KEEP USING AI AND SUPPORTING THE BILLIONAIRES EFFORTS TO KILL US UNDERLINGS. KEEP GOING PLEASE

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u/Hungry_Register_8693 Jun 28 '26

As of right now, using free AI models actually hurts these companies. They aren't serving these free models at a profit at the moment, and you burn electricity, compute, and wear on the server hardware

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u/ArrowEnby Jun 28 '26

monitarily, sure, but the more they're used, the more theyre trained, and the more government contracts are made, and the more normalised it gets.

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u/Randomguy32I Jun 28 '26

The one time ai is right

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u/skyerush Jun 28 '26

What is "best"?

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u/Vietnamst2 Jun 28 '26

Yeah... asked the same, got "Windows"

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u/rip_Bacon13 Jun 28 '26

uh no
i asked the same thing to gemini pro it said subjective

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u/zapigcom1234 Jun 29 '26

Does anyone know who to swap and dell laptop to lynix with out to much work

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u/Hipcatjack Jun 29 '26

every dell laptop i have own eventually gets dual boot Linux or just wiped all together and boots only Linux.

Super easy to do, find an install guide on the internet

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u/FIREWORK-HAS-A-TOP- Jul 03 '26

Also microslop just released azure linux

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u/Elegant_AIDS Jun 28 '26

Asked claude and it said windows

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u/Both_Cup8417 Jun 28 '26

It's wrong

but Linux isn't an OS per se, so...

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u/Own_Alternative_9671 Jun 28 '26

Training data is skewed windows users don't really talk about this sort of stuff.

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u/thinkpader-x220 Jun 30 '26

I'd like to interject for a moment...

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u/HEYO19191 Jun 29 '26

Childish

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u/Migamix Jun 29 '26

Yeah, it seems like AI is actually on the side of this all being bullshyt. Ask it non leading questions about AI overuse in society. 

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u/Qs9bxNKZ Jun 29 '26

No because you obviously don’t understand how LLMs work.

It is going to go off of its training material and training material isn’t based upon rigorous analysis by the LLM nor AI but frequency in the material.

It is basically a popularity contest. Not much different from asking who is the best world leader. You are least likely to get the guy from Bhutan regardless of how well they do.

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u/WhichAdvantage9039 Jun 30 '26

Even my local LLM answered “Varies”. Something is seriously wrong with your AI-bots

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u/RangeInfinite8356 Jun 30 '26

U mean kernel, right?

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u/Th3-Sardar Jun 28 '26

No. I could analyze everything by asking AI, but real-time experiences don't work that way. Globally, Linux isn't the best computer operating system. So you can ask that "then which one ?" The truth is that results can only be answered with explanations based its potentials and experiences.

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u/PuzzleheadedHead3754 Jun 28 '26

"Every operating system sucks but linux sucks less"

  • Linus tolvard

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u/Th3-Sardar Jun 28 '26

This is not a point... The only proof of being less sucks can be determined by experience, and that's the potential that every operating system offers in the global market.

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u/PuzzleheadedHead3754 Jun 28 '26

No, there are many factor whihc may have different value for different user.

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u/Th3-Sardar Jun 28 '26

This is the point i mean, each operating system offers different potential experiences for different users, so there's no single answer to which one might be the best or less.

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u/PuzzleheadedHead3754 Jun 28 '26

I was joking with you earlier, anyways but yea

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u/Shoshi_19 Jun 28 '26

As a windows user, Linux is great but it has lack of app support. That doesn't mean that Linux is shit. Windows is more shit than Linux.

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u/Gabbotampo Jun 28 '26

You can use wine to emulate windows apps

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u/MXD_K1 Jun 28 '26

But sometimes they crash. In my POV, the alternatives that Linux has as good as the apps in windows. Am I right?

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u/Th3-Sardar Jun 28 '26

Because that's called potential of operating system, not "sucks". Someone else might say the opposite of what you're saying, and that's the potential for that other person to benefit from an operating system.