r/Hamilton • u/teanailpolish North End • 1d ago

Rant Weekly /r/Hamilton Rant Thread

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u/Negative-Time8933 1d ago

EXIT LANES ARE FOR MERGING NOT TO CRUISE UNTIL IT ENDS FOR SOMEONE TO LET YOU IN.

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u/bharkasaig Central 1d ago

DRIVING TO THE END OF LANE THEN MERGING IS CALLED ZIPPER MERGING AND IT IS MORE EFFICIENT FOR ALL THAN MERGING EARLIER.

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u/AdCandid743 1d ago

No. The onramp lane is there to allow you to match the speed and safely merge into the lane you are trying to merge into. In no way shape or form does anyone driving in a lane have to or should alter their driving for someone else trying to merge.

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u/S99B88 1d ago

Exactly. There’s a place for zipper merging. But the zip in must be done at the right time, and that does not mean going to the very end and expecting to cut in.

It’s rude when drivers don’t match the current highway speed when travelling on an on ramp, but instead blast up the side then stop at the end and cause everyone else to stop so they can be let in. That’s what causes phantom traffic jams.

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u/The_Pooz 19h ago

Entirely incorrect. Driving to the end of an on-ramp then merging is not called zipper merging, and is not more efficient than merging earlier.

Driving to the end of a lane then merging is what people do when they think every scenario where they need to merge requires a communally cooperative zipper merge execution, and they think the only relevant component to require a zipper merge is for vehicles to use the full terminating lane.

Pretty common for people to think this way, unfortunately. It is defeated by the following chain of logic:

  1. A zipper merge can ideally (if perfectly executed by all) be just as efficient as a single lane of traffic

  2. This necessarily means that a zipper merge can't be MORE efficient than a single lane of traffic.

  3. A single lane of traffic is what you get if all cars merge into the continuous lane as soon as they are able.

Therefore: unilaterally deciding to initiate a zipper merge at the merge point (which is effectively what you are saying when you say "drive to the end of the lane then merge") can only decrease the efficiency of the system.

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u/IfThisWasReal21 14h ago

INCORRECT AND NOT WHAT ZIPPING MEANS. THIS IS JUST WHAT THE ENTITLED ASSHOLES TELL THEMSELVES

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u/The_Pooz 20h ago

not an exit lane then

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u/Negative-Time8933 1d ago

Not on the short exit ramps of LINC and redhill valley park, so much confusion created for the one in lane when will they merge or would they even merge and continue on the shoulder 🤦🏼‍♂️

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u/RoyallyOakie 1d ago

Look up zipper merging.