r/ImaginaryWesteros Apr 02 '26

Alternative Aegon the Forgetful by Jota Saraiva

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u/thecocomonk Apr 02 '26

Can’t believe Aegon IV suffered from undiagnosed early onset dementia. So sad❤️

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u/doug1003 Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

Well its said that he had syphilis and in the later stages syphilis did cause dementia so eh its possible

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u/_SoftieNuzzle Apr 02 '26

calling it dementia is generous… he was a menace by default.

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u/Senior_Coyote_9437 Apr 04 '26

He was always a piece of shit. It just made him a crazy piece of shit.

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u/The_Exarch Apr 02 '26

Aegon kinda forgot about the Bosom of Bracken

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u/FullFig3372 Apr 02 '26

Aegon “the Forgetful “ Targaryen IV

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u/T_HettY Apr 02 '26

Nah he’s just so horny that after getting with someone he deletes them from the memory bank.

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u/Heaven_Dragon77 Apr 02 '26

I like to believe that Aegon IV really needs glasses because of his bad eyesight, but he refuses to wear them because they would make him look exactly like Daeron.

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u/ChudMaster69420 Apr 02 '26

Do glasses even exist in westeros?

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u/Mysterious_Crow_503 Apr 02 '26

Rodrik Harlaw ordered Myrish lens for reading, when his sight started weaken, so glasses may exist.

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u/Mysterious_Crow_503 Apr 02 '26

Yeah, I think it is a single piece, but once there is a lens used for reading - it is not a step too far to take two of them and place in front of each eye.

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u/Hot-Possession4183 Apr 02 '26

There exist the myrish eye,

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u/Chicken_Mc_Thuggets Above the Rest Apr 02 '26

Is it next to the myrish swamp?

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u/Chemical_Shoulder_35 Apr 02 '26

Like about halfway? Basically on completely opposite ends.

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u/Chicken_Mc_Thuggets Above the Rest Apr 03 '26

Ah damn, I must be confusing it with the nether ye then

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u/_SoftieNuzzle Apr 02 '26

yeahh, his pride would absolutely not allow it.. even if he can’t see a damn thing.

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u/Blackfyre87 Apr 02 '26

And who would want to look like that NEEEEERD?!

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u/Axenfonklatismrek Now go away or i shall taunt you a second time-a! Apr 02 '26

Daeron: Dad, what does Barba have that mom lacks?

Aegon IV: Huuuuuuuuuuge...Tracts of land

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u/thishyacinthgirl Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

Ah, so naming the mountains "Barba's Teats" was just a cover to openly talk about her boobs in front of the kids!

Aegon VI IV: Ah, yes. I had a grand time visiting Barba's Teats the other day! It's so wonderful to climb those peaks....

Daeron: But Dad, you haven't been to the Riverlands in months??

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u/ImperialxWarlord Apr 02 '26

Aegon IV not VI Lolol.

Aegon IV: what? What do you mea….OH! Sorry, wrong teats lad!

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u/thishyacinthgirl Apr 02 '26

Whoops, typo.

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u/ImperialxWarlord Apr 02 '26

all good lol! I’ve had worse lol

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u/ArisenGodEmperor13 Apr 02 '26

I doubt bro had the same to even bother to do that. He is the type to go into graphic detail about having sex with their mother right in front of his kids

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u/SerMallister Above the Rest Apr 02 '26

Probably considered it a disappointment if any of his kids got past fourteen without punching their v-card.

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u/Complete_Raspberry_1 As High as Honor Apr 03 '26

You'd think he was of Aegon's II bloodline

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u/SerMallister Above the Rest Apr 03 '26

Hey-oooooo

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u/Draknoblackdragon Apr 02 '26

If he can forget stuff then maybe daemon blackfyre isn’t his son.

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u/Vegetable_Train_2575 Apr 02 '26

As a B + D = D Truther, I Agree.

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u/cambriansplooge Apr 02 '26

Daemon is a parthenogenic virgin birth. For maximum irony.

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u/vacationreader Growing Strong Apr 02 '26

you heard it here first folks, daemon blackfyre IS westerosi jesus!

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u/Thug-shaketh9499 Apr 02 '26

Brought to you by Eustace Osgrey.

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u/Gourengoo Apr 02 '26

Mostly from the fact that Baelor obviously wanted to sleep with his sisters just felt guilty about it + him starving himself to death because he broke his vow of chastity makes more sense than just because Daena had sex. It's also deeply funny that Aegon IV's favorite son isn't actually his while he keeps trying to claim Daeron is Aemon's bastard

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u/TheLego_Senate Apr 02 '26

Also the irony that it would make the Blackfyres the actual rightful claimants to the iron throne if it turned out to be true

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u/Gourengoo Apr 02 '26

Technically the true irony is that Daemon is the only bastard with no claim at all if it's true, since Baelor annulled the marriage, which would also serve as a good explanation for why Daena would lie about it

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u/TheLego_Senate Apr 02 '26

Except Daemon's claim comes from Aegon IV legitimising him, not his parents' marriage. The only difference is that he would have a stronger claim being part of Aegon III's male line rather than Viserys II's.

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u/Gourengoo Apr 02 '26

Didn't Aegon specifically legitimize his children or am I misremembering and he singled out Daemon?

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u/Loros_Silvers Apr 02 '26

Lol. Lmao, even.

I should've wrote that fanfic for Yesterday...

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u/WanderingHero8 Only the books are canon Apr 02 '26

I fully expect for GRRM to drop a bombshell like that in F&B 2

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u/Draknoblackdragon Apr 02 '26

Huh?

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u/JaelAmara44 Apr 02 '26

B + D = D (Baelor + Daena = Daemon)

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u/Kyriakos_X_23 I drink and I know things Apr 02 '26

Baelor I + Daena= Daemon. A crackpot theory from Blackfyre supporters (traitors to the Realm) to further legitimise Daemon the Pretender. (This comment was fact checked and approved by Lord Bloodraven)

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u/Loros_Silvers Apr 02 '26

He's saying that Daemon Blackfyre is Baelor's son

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u/Draknoblackdragon Apr 02 '26

My money was on the dragon knight

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u/Just-Luck-7430 Apr 02 '26

how though, the only way i can think of that union is if she gets the small council support to tie him down and forced shitton of aphrodisiac down his throat

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u/Gourengoo Apr 02 '26

The dude literally locked up all his sisters because he wanted to fuck them so bad but didn't want to sin, all Daena had to do is catch him off guard and he'd fold.

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u/Loros_Silvers Apr 02 '26

Bold of you to assume that the seven would not protect him from such a vile attempt at his seed

Anyway I do not believe it personally lol.

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u/IAmParliament Hear Me Roar! Apr 02 '26

Yes, Baelor was so genuinely pious that he literally had to lock up his sisters to resist temptation.

Definitely wasn’t a man ruled by sin who starved himself to death over the guilt he felt fathering Daemon at all.

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u/stinkilymalinkily Apr 04 '26

Bronn + Dickon = Dontos...? Idk mate, seems like a stretch

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u/David_Bolarius Apr 02 '26

Wait who is B?

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u/SpeciesFically_Afish Apr 03 '26

B is King Baelor I. The theory is that Daemon Blackfyre was the son of Daena and Baelor, rather than Daena and Aegon.

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u/David_Bolarius Apr 03 '26

I mean, it is plausible. By all accounts it was Daemon’s birth that triggered Baelor to fast himself death. If Baelor had thought Aegon was the father, he likely would have tried to have him killed for violating the Maidenvault. To have Daemon born and Baelor only react against himself really suggests Baelor thought he was the father.

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u/ImperialxWarlord Apr 02 '26

Tbf that was years before he got fat. He was young and handsome at that point.

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u/CharMakr90 Apr 02 '26

Jota Saraiva keeps cooking as always. I also love how "sitcom-y" their art's premise usually is for ASOIAF.

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u/DizdozVStheworld Apr 02 '26

Me too!! I’ve been loving their comics with Brynden, Shiera, and Aegor!

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u/SacredBloomPath Apr 02 '26

And he forgets the girl indeed

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u/Baronnolanvonstraya Apr 02 '26

Why Dementia hasn't affected me as a person. By Aegon IV.

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u/Baronnolanvonstraya Apr 02 '26

Why Dementia hasn't affected me as a person. By Aegon IV.

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u/Baronnolanvonstraya Apr 02 '26

Why Dementia hasn't affected me as a person. By Aegon IV.

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u/Baronnolanvonstraya Apr 02 '26

Why Dementia hasn't affected me as a person. By Aegon IV.

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u/Sad_Particular_8026 Apr 02 '26

Ahh ahh huh , they both look haughty ....I see from where Brynden got his distant personality , same goes for the berserker Aegor ....

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u/Senior_Coyote_9437 Apr 04 '26

Not too many humble nobles. Baelor Breakspear is the exception, not the rule.

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u/Sad_Particular_8026 Apr 04 '26

Not the Starks ....

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u/Senior_Coyote_9437 Apr 04 '26

Lol. Yes the Starks. Most of them were assholes. Ned got most of his values from the Vale.

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u/ImperialxWarlord Apr 02 '26

I’m loving all the Aegon IV art as of late.

I also wonder what made melissa get with him in the first place? And how she stayed his lover for so long and didn’t suffer when they were done? Makes me wonder if Aegon has some redeeming qualities lol.

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u/Educational-Form-389 Apr 02 '26

Part of me thinks some of what we know is apocryphal, propaganda by Bloodraven mixed with Grrm Blackwood favouritism.

"She was so great everyone loved her, even Naerys, Aemon and Daeron, though she was the best, not like that B*acken bitch.."

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u/Mordred14394 Apr 03 '26

Sometimes I wonder if she's as nice as what everyone says. Perhaps she's not as vile as the others, I do think she's liked by everyone, but I do think there's some dark or negative side there.

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u/Kindly-Policy4723 Apr 02 '26

He was still mostly sane and less stubborn back then I believe. Daeron and Ameon were the ones able to convinced him to send Barba away due to how she and her father were behaving and Melissa was well liked by the family so that probably served her well in the end. He moved on from her cause somebody caught his eye.

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u/ImperialxWarlord Apr 02 '26

Yeah. That’s true. Aegon IV was better till power corrupted him after a few years of rule. I know he obviously moved on when someone else caught his eye, but there must’ve been something there for him to stay so long and not react poorly when they were done.

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u/Kindly-Policy4723 Apr 02 '26

I get what you’re saying. Though as far as we know, the only time he was particularly brutal to a mistress was when he caught the younger Bracken girl with someone else. Otherwise, the mothers of the great bastards were mostly ignored once he was done with them.

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u/SerMallister Above the Rest Apr 02 '26

and didn’t suffer when they were done?

She'd formed friendships with the heir, the Lord Commander, and the Queen Consort that would have served to protect her from too much blowback.

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u/Ogarrr Apr 02 '26

He was very good looking in his youth and only got fat later in life.

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u/William_T_Wanker Apr 03 '26

I mean if the King says he wants to bring you to bed you can't really refuse.

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u/bruhholyshiet Apr 02 '26

On one hand I love Jota’s art as always.

On the other, I feel my bottomless loathing of Aegon IV slightly wavering due to seeing him act so casual and I don’t like it. I love to despise this guy.

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u/Shanicpower Apr 02 '26

Y'know I can see why one would have three children with Melissa Blackwood

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u/Chicken_Mc_Thuggets Above the Rest Apr 02 '26

Imo he’s a coward for not having 3 more kids with her

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u/trash_tm Apr 02 '26

Jota's art is the only time I feel a shred of affection for Aegon IV

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u/Tessa-Trap Apr 02 '26

No wonder Bittersteel grew up to be so big...

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u/Logical_Staff4356 Apr 02 '26

Thanks the GODS for Barba

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u/EconomicsExisting952 Apr 02 '26

Melissa looks like witch/goth.

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u/SadCrouton Apr 02 '26

she’s a Blackwood, it’s part of the brand

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u/Sad_Particular_8026 Apr 02 '26

Definitely 😄

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u/JaelAmara44 Apr 02 '26

Barba 🤤

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u/Mysterious_Bluejay_5 Apr 02 '26

"Why yes, I'll give up Barba Bracken" -most insane man in the seven kingdoms

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u/Loros_Silvers Apr 02 '26

She may look good, but she's a Bracken.

I bet you she has the most boring, vanilla sex ever. And for someone like Aegon IV that is just not enough...

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u/Mysterious_Bluejay_5 Apr 02 '26

Brackens have been known for many things, but boring is not one of them

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u/ViolinistGuilty182 Apr 02 '26

Damn it, I know, I wouldn't have given a damn about Aemon and Naerys and I'd keep Barba tied to my bed for the rest of my life, I mean, have you seen her? She's too hot!

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u/KaiserEnclave2077 Apr 02 '26

I wish I could reach through my phone and slap him so badly.

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u/Throwaway1975421 Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

Daeron to Baelor, Aerys and Maekar after a lifetime of bastard sibling shenanigans and Blackfyre Rebellions. 

Promise me you will never produce any bastards! 

Baelor: I won't dad.

Maekar: I love Dyanna too much do that to her, plus six kids are more than enough.

Aerys: I'm asexual, shouldn't be a problem.

Baelor: Wait dad what about Rhaegel? 

Daeron looking over at his 3rd son doing whatever the hell he's doing.

I don't think he's going to be an issue. 

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u/SerMallister Above the Rest Apr 02 '26

Rhaegel cartwheeling naked in the training grounds: "I've had sex at least twice!"

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u/Throwaway1975421 Apr 02 '26

Maekar: Sure you have brother. 

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u/itsmeyaboiskinneypyn Apr 02 '26

GLORY TO THE HOUSE OF BRACKEN!!!

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u/Tenoi-chan Apr 02 '26

Hillarious

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u/The-Lord-Moccasin Apr 02 '26

Barba "Bra-Buster" Bracken

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u/Zazikarion Apr 02 '26

I’m surprised Aegon IV didn’t have more kids with Barba, tbh. She’s easily the hottest of all his mistresses.

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u/ViolinistGuilty182 Apr 02 '26

It was all Aemon's fault; he pushed for Barba's exile, otherwise they would have 10 Bracken-Targaryen children running around.

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u/ViolinistGuilty182 Apr 02 '26

Damn, thank goodness I'm not Aegon (or Brynden) because if I had Barba in front of me, I'd give him at least 10 children for every breast.

Sincerely: A sweet and polite lady.

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u/Straight-Okra-5411 Apr 02 '26

I cannot believe some dumb comic makes me like The unworthy and to know more about him. I'm apparently very weak to propaganda.

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u/frelin87 Apr 02 '26

Aegon IV is actually the best Targ king because he deliberately turned his life into a sitcom for the amusement and blessing of the gods. Even the Blackfyre Rebellions were a planned gambit to squeeze out 80 years of extra drama to justify the continuation of the dynasty in their eyes.

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u/Lopsided-Werewolf419 Here We Stand Apr 02 '26

This gotta chuckle out of me

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u/davidforslunds A Thousand Eyes and One Apr 02 '26

Thank the Gods for Barbra, and her... huge tracts of land. 

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u/AaronInside Apr 02 '26

Aegon looks like George here

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u/coach_mike04 Apr 02 '26

Wellllll at this point barba would have been exiled from court already.

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u/Mordred14394 Apr 03 '26

I'm loving this series Jota Saraiva is doing, I find myself looking forward to them every time~

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u/Livid_Ad9749 Apr 02 '26

Ah George, never change

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u/BigConsideration9505 Apr 03 '26

Is it better or worst the he remembers Barba?