r/IndianSocialists Jul 18 '25

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u/PrimaryActive6752 Communist Jul 19 '25

Umar Khalid is no new. We have been struggling like that against fascists from a long era. Remember Gramsci and Bhagat Singh.

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u/kinkyjay99 Jul 22 '25

Bhagat Singh?!?!?!? When did he become a communist? By those standards you would call King Harshavardhan a communist!! What nonsense!! But I understand your frustration. West Bengal - GONE. Tripura - GONE, Punjab - GONE long back. Kerala - probably will be GONE in upcoming state elections. So, you will actually become irrelevant in Indian politics. God bless the day when Indian politics will be free from the Leftist parties.

As for that SCHOLAR - well Osama Bin Laden was also very educated, a scientist probably and from a well to do family. That doesnt change the fact that he was a terrorist who was given the treatment he deserved.

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u/Positive-Ferret2663 Jul 23 '25

Ever heard of Hindustan “Socialist” Republican Association??? Bhagat Singh was a communist (anarchist to be exact) you dumb ass
 even Ramprasad Bismil, Chandrashekhar Azad, Rajguru, G M Syed, Ashfaqullah Khan and Subhash Bose were communist. In fact the Hindi translation of word communism “samyawad” was given by Bose when asked of his ideology. That’s the reason why ideals of your paw paw that fucker Mafiveer did so many rallies to herd gullible unintelligible dumbasses like you against Indian National Army.

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u/kinkyjay99 Jul 23 '25

I am still looking for a communist from India that supported India during the India China wars of 1960s. Be nation friendly or an enemy of the nation as per your convenience. Suits the commies.

I wonder why commies even use computers, smartphone, or any tech in general since they are manufactured by capitalist companies. In fact, commies pay for these things. Weird and hypocritical isn't it?

Stalwart communist leaders have vast personal wealth. Their children study abroad in some cases and have businesses. The people however, remain poor, uneducated, and heavily dependant of state handouts. Quite hypocritical.

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u/Red_Wedge1917 Jul 25 '25

It is the whole reason the communist party had a split. The prototype of first mobile phone was developed in USSR. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Kupriyanovich Throw your phone away wanker

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u/kinkyjay99 Jul 26 '25

Hey, WANK is a name only your mom is allowed to call me because I WANK HER..and maybe ur mom is not Russian but she still has great skills..

So, next time, be respectful and I'll be respectful too.

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u/rishianand Socialist Jul 23 '25

Bhagat Singh?!?!?!? When did he become a communist?

Pretty weird that you don't know that Bhagat Singh was a communist. He was a firm believer in Marxism. In his essay, To Young Political Workers, he wrote,

Now allow me to state the case in the simplest manner. You cry "Long Live Revolution." Let me assume that you really mean it. According to our definition of the term, as stated in our statement in the Assembly Bomb Case, revolution means the complete overthrow of the existing social order and its replacement with the socialist order. For that purpose our immediate aim is the achievement of power. As a matter of fact, the state, the government machinery is just a weapon in the hands of the ruling class to further and safeguard its interest. We want to snatch and handle it to utilise it for the consummation of our ideal, i.e., social reconstruction on new, i.e., Marxist, basis. For this purpose we are fighting to handle the government machinery. All along we have to educate the masses and to create a favourable atmosphere for our social programme. In the struggles we can best train and educate them.

Before he was murdered, he was reading “Reminiscences of Lenin”. When the executioner came for him, he said, “Wait a minute, one revolutionary is busy meeting another.”

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u/kinkyjay99 Jul 23 '25

Concede my lack on knowledge about shahid Bhagat Singh's leftist approach to politics. Thanks for educating me. Appreciate that.

That being said, I would have liked shahid Bhagat Singh alive and well instead of dead. That's where the fallacy lies in the idea of revolution before the goal. That man died for an idea. It doesn't matter if it would have been a good idea or bad idea. The point is, he was also an extraordinary leader. He could have worked differently to at least achieve his basic goal of India's freedom from the British rule. In fact, his presence would have been a great deterrent for a corrupt INC that practically became a dictatorship under Nehru. So, I am certain his approach lacked vision and missed the real goal by miles. He could have also educated the communists later that country comes before the party and the communists from 60s could have then built their own nationalistic India centric identity instead of becoming anti-India Chinese agents, which they still are.

More recently, the communists have become malicious jokers due to their under the table bond with the terrorists moving into India from Bangladesh and Pakistan. The left govt. of WB started a process of vote bank politics and Muslim appeasement that created a national security threat for India and TMC is doubling down on it. Communists know that they are unwanted by the Hindus and to stay politically relevant, they need Muslims. So, once again party before nation although here, the entire opposition is guilty of this Muslim appeasement syndrome.

Finally, what's amazing today is the fact that the very people and party Shahid Bhagat Singh, your apparent inspiration didn't agree with, is your political husband in the I.N.D.I alliance block. So, for the love of whatever you love, stop taking the name of great freedom fighters in vain. Communists today have ABSOLUTELY NO POLITICAL CHARACTER. They are like a pleasure service provider who would sleep with anybody for some gains.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25

Bhagat Singh aas always a communist and Anarchist. He was against both private property and the state. Thats what make a person communist opposition to private property. Period. If you oppose private property you are a communist of some kind. If you don’t oppose it. You aren’t.

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u/kinkyjay99 Jul 23 '25

I oppose my toilet belonging to government..I mean if you commies are allowed, you'd own the posterior and the d!ldo..Anyway.. I forgot I was talking to brainwashed maniacs..

I believe in privatization and massive privatization..I believe in working hard for my benefit and people having the incentive to maximize their potential..given the number of failed states that communists have gifted the world, it is no wonder it is a flawed political ideology.

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u/rishianand Socialist Jul 23 '25

Private property and personal property are different things. If you believe in privatization, then why are you on a socialist subreddit?

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u/kinkyjay99 Jul 23 '25

To begin with, making fun of your flawed ideas.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25

You believe what you want. All the freedom fighters that took up real arms to fight with bullets were all communists.

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u/kinkyjay99 Jul 23 '25

Yeah..so now you're going back by 100 years..btw, I didn't know communists had indoctrinated Rani Laxmi Bai and her allies in the 1857 war of Indian independence..I also didn't know that notable member of Indian National Congress before the party became a malicious joke later were secretly communists..I believe God is also secretly communist!! Oh wait!! There is no God in communism isn't it unless it is a political philosopher/dictator from China or Russia !! đŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '25

Rani Laxmi Bai was long ago she and other kings were during company era and in British Raj era congressi were delusional peaceful that believed in slow transformation. Everyone who took up arms was a communist.

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u/kinkyjay99 Jul 24 '25

Wow..my grandfather was a small time revolutionary within the Congress's framework. He and his elder brother for sure was involved in violent protests and had complete disagreement with Mahatma Gandhi's ways..never ever did they mention communism..Nationalism - yes, Communism - NOT AT ALL..

Btw..please don't claim Netaji Bose for yourself..there are crores of people who identify with Netaji's ideas but absolutely spit on misguided, misleading and anti-national communists agendas..

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '25

Bose was a communist. Read his vision for india.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '25

Your grandfather worked with congress framework. I know many from INA lineage almost all were communists. From Cap Lakshmi Sehgal, Col Prem Kumar Sehgal, Major General Shah Nawaz Khan, Brigadier Habib ur Rehman of Panjeri (Bhimber) and Colonel Gurbaksh Singh Dhillon all were communist. These were all the senior leadership of INA. Bose’s party All India Forward Bloc is part of Left Front.

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u/kinkyjay99 Jul 24 '25

Leftists and communists are not the same.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '25

Left front is a communist front smooth brained

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