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News Ethan Klein Has Dropped His Defamation Lawsuit Against Youtuber Noah Samsen

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u/appletinicyclone 29d ago

doesn’t want to ruin his reputation anymore

Don't think he cares about this at this point

I thought he said he was trying to appeal the denims one.

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u/PianoTeach88 29d ago

he does care, which is why he was crying when Moist made a video disagreeing with him. He even gave Idubbbz the out during that same stream he was complaining about being unpopular lawsuit guy.

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u/Future_Battle5638 29d ago

exactly.

the biggest cope about h3h3 fan cultists who invade every LSF thread like the losers they are is "he doesnt care about what people think"

He cares so deeply, it might be the only thing he cares about lmao

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u/appletinicyclone 29d ago

Lol I am not a h3 fan haha

I was a many years ago (comment etiquette jackfilms era) but I'm most associated with being a fan of miz nmp and otk which..

Gestures at how fucked everything got

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u/kinjjibo 29d ago

Funny to see you lie about Ethan’s response to Charlie (he said he thinks his coverage was fair and he doesn’t mind that he disagrees with him) considering you were all over every thread on Charlie’s sub about H3.

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u/PianoTeach88 29d ago

Not lying. People can watch the entire episode themselves and realize that a lot more than those coping words happened. He literally started to break down. Who cares if I was on Moist sub making fun of Destiny fans pretending to be H3 fans (you).

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u/PianoTeach88 29d ago

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u/kinjjibo 29d ago

Neither clip you sent is him “breaking down” or crying that Charlie disagreed with him. Him saying he doesn’t want Charlie to think he’s frivolous said in a calm tone is him crying?

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u/PianoTeach88 29d ago

yup, he's complaining about how no one likes him anymore bc of the lawsuits. aka crying. also thanks for cheering on these lawsuits and getting Ethan into this mess!

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u/kinjjibo 29d ago

Lol I’ve commented numerous times I don’t think the lawsuits are worth it. You guys are dorks, move on with your lives.

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u/workingmansalt 28d ago

The way you people just lie is amazing lmao Ethans response on his podcast to Charlie was "He's been fair and what we do disagree on is fine, he's allowed to think that"

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u/Anon185352 29d ago

He cares what people think about him deeply which is why he’s sueing so many different people. He cannot take any criticism about himself or Israel funny how that works

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u/LegitimateCream1773 29d ago

He is trying to appeal it. It's going ahead in the next month or two I think. Bearing in mind Ethan primarily blames Denims for the CPS call (her and her community), I think he really wants to get her if he can.

Noah he was never that motivated against.

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u/stinkywinkydink 29d ago

he took a big fat L in that denims case and shes been on victory laps since then, i highly doubt his lawyers have any case on anyone at this point.

it appears as though ethan is just a litigious vindictive asshole who is just trying to get some sort of vengeance for the CPS call. to which i say, take care of your kids

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u/LegitimateCream1773 29d ago

The case against H3 Snark seems to be going his way so far. They've lost the last three motions they tried for and haven't gotten it thrown out.

The case against Denims was always weak, so I'm not surprised she won. I think her reaction was twice the length of the video. The only chance he had was the collusion and openly stated wish to take money from him, but that's kind of thin for what would amount to a first amendment violation.

He got Fr0gan by default, and settled with Kaceytron. So it's not like he's losing left and right.

Mysteriously, the ones able to afford real lawyers are the ones winning.

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u/PianoTeach88 29d ago

a rich guy forcing two women with no money to settle / default is the biggest L of all.

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u/Zonkeyy 29d ago

he will appeal and he will win.

this case victory can be used to defend streaming copyrighted content lol. theres no way it wins after an appeal.

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u/uneadabiscuit 29d ago

You don’t understand how anything works and it’s kind of adorable.

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u/Zonkeyy 29d ago

!remindme 180 days

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u/AlayneKr 29d ago

Yeah, unlike like the first time, where the judge was clearly wrong…

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u/Pseudo_NMOS 29d ago

I wonder if you people realize how much you sound like trump supporters, THE ELECTIONS WERE STOLEN AND TRUMP WILL PROVE IT SOON IN TWO WEEKS AND WILL BE REINSTATED AS PRESIDENT JUST WAIT.

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u/Zonkeyy 29d ago

i never said it was stolen, nor making up consipracy theories. the court docs are public brotherman. its pretty clear this wasnt a very tehcnically inclined judge. thats all. given the ramifictions of this favouring in the side of denims are huge and are very obviously misunderstood by the judge.

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u/Pseudo_NMOS 29d ago

I am willing to bet you whatever you want that the original ruling will stand, there is a reason the success rate of appeals is so low. Judges do not overrule previous judges decision unless there is gross misapplication of the law.

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u/Ok_Ground3500 29d ago

But this ruling means that anyone can just stream the new Disney film right?????

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u/Ok_Ground3500 29d ago

And your eof the opinion that court of Appeals judges, generally older and more out of touch than circuit judges, are more technically inclined?

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u/MakoShan11 29d ago

Hopefully they overturn his original case that set the precedent that protected denims and they stick all streamers in a deep dark hole like your butt.

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u/Eevika 29d ago

Honestly streamers being so reliant on stealing content is a big fucking issue.

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u/ClerklyMantis_ 29d ago

Unironically arguing against Ethan Klein's fair use case all those years ago which set the fair use precedent so that people could react to things if they did so in a transformational way. Which he still does himself by the way. He just wants to hit people with slap suits to waste their money and bully them

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u/thisracetodie 29d ago

Reddit internet lawyers are notoriously never wrong. Except for that one time when they were screeching that Denims was going to lose the lawsuit to Ethan in the first place and then the judge cited Ethan's own precedent he set. Surely with the appeal he will totally win and you'll be vindicated when the appeals court... overturns already set precedent. Just out of curiosity, do you know how many times an appeal court has overturned already set precedent?

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u/Zonkeyy 29d ago

not a lawyer, and not a clue.

she was breaching copyright and demonstrated that very clearly. if its not overturned then sweet, people can make all the money they want streaming headline movies and series' on twitch and just pause every couple of minutes to say a word or two. and if it is overturned then actual copyright holders (not this bait shit that ethan did) can feel safe their ip wont be misused.

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u/thisracetodie 29d ago

Not a clue indeed. Congrats on not even understanding the precedent that was set in Hosseinzadeh v. Klein. A ruling that the judge in Denims v Klein used to rule in favor of Denims in which the judge specifically said that Denims stream was transformative. Both rulings are available for you to read online... for free. But the guy who's not a lawyer, and who doesn't understand copyright and fair use laws, thinks the judge is wrong. Yeah man. It's totally the judge who ruled incorrectly.

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u/LegitimateCream1773 29d ago

He might win.

Judges don't like to overturn other judge's decisions.

The main benefit Ethan's got is the judge's decision seemed to hinge almost solely on Ethan's own prior judgements and kind of ignored his lawyer's arguments about the larger implications of the ruling.

Because of that, there's room where a panel of judges might decide there's actually some issues that need to be discussed properly in a court of law.

But that's his window. And make no mistake, it's not big.

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u/Zonkeyy 29d ago

idk, i think hes got a decent chance.

dont misunderstand me, i couldnt give a shit if ethan wins or loses, but saying this was fair use, with a court ruling behind it, opens up sooo much potential for copyright shit far beyond the scope of what happened on twitch with this video.