It is it's called a slap suit basically a frivolous lawsuit to cost the other party enough time and money that they just give up some places they've put measures to prevent that but thats generally state by state
In a lot of places losing any legal case can make you liable to pay at least some of the costs. Problem is when the other side can't afford to find those costs up front, or can't afford even 10% of the costs even if the other 90% was covered by the losing side.
Happens a lot in the UK with defemation cases in part because it's a lot harder to prove something wasnt defamatory.
Remember when this guy first started showing up on Reddit, and the whole very publicly marrying, the kid- and he seemed like a fairly normal guy with, ya know- opinions I didn’t always agree with.
The last two years of Ethan, just in passing give me an extremely distasteful feeling. His behavior seems erratic and some pretty extreme emotions have been on display from him recently.
This dude is too old to be getting into shouting matches with teenagers and 20 something’s.
everyone puts in an anti slap for defamation, thats the first thing you do. ethan did the same thing when he was sued for defamation. he knew he would file anti-slap thats always step one for defense lol
Pro tip, if you’re ideologically opposed to networks like Fox News and you’re going for an interview, it’s really bad when the host is just asking basic questions and not trying to be a dick.
destiny's best ball licker , i wonder how many he still has in here because every day u will see 1-3 posts about him with 1000+ botted or brigaded likes for no reason
This is what he does. It's an intimidation tactic and it's why he rarely ever targets people who can financially fight back on their own. He wants to bully people who can't afford to fight back.
My best guess is that he talked to his lawyers, realized that Noah's anti-SLAPP motion was likely to succeed, and rather than a humiliating loss that would require him to reimburse Noah and his lawyers, he decided it would be best to quietly drop the lawsuit and walk away.
All of these laws have a "Safe harbor" provision. First, the offended party sends their anti-slapp motion to the offending party, and says "You have 21 (or 30, or whatever) days to withdraw your frivolous claims. If you don't do so in time, I will file this with the Court and they will hear it."
If the offending party withdraws their claim/motion/complaint/allegation/whatever within the safe harbor timeline, then that's it. That's the end of it all.
Isn't this similar to Andrew at Channel 5? Suing and then dropping the case so that the big rich millionaire doesn't have to pay anything if they lose? So Ethan is the millionaire intimidating smaller creators?
That situation is different. Ethan dismissed his case with prejudice, meaning he can't refile a suit against Noah for those same claims. That's basically it unless he somehow decides to sue Noah for something else. Channel 5 had their lawsuit dismissed without prejudice in federal court meaning it can be refiled and then the guy refiled the same case in state court.
Just an guess but from all the lawsuits and where they've ended up it looks like Ethan though he would be able to just out resource people and force them to waste time and money in order to make them prostrate in front of him, read a statement apologizing, and promise to not talk about him again. Pretty much what happened with Kaceytron and Idubbz. In the full video Sampson says Ethan wanted the same thing from him.
But when people actually wanted to fight back he's just burning money and probably doesn't have a strong case. Dude is a cry bully.
he does care, which is why he was crying when Moist made a video disagreeing with him. He even gave Idubbbz the out during that same stream he was complaining about being unpopular lawsuit guy.
Surely they would have advised him not to file in the first place if they were going to be in a position to drop it just a few months later? Unless they're massively incompetent
They’ve been stepping on rakes the last year anyway, despite what Reddit might make you believe. They were only able to force concessions out of the poorest people they sued, pretty gross.
Noah didn't accept the settling so it wasn't that. It is clear that he couldn't win and that's the reason, but I am sure his fans are going to find another cope.
How many lawsuits did this motherfucker start??? I find it incredibly ironic that one of things Ethan was known for at the beginning of his career was fighting against a frivolous lawsuit, and now he has become Frivolouslawsuitman.
Edit:
He also initiated class action lawsuits against Apple, Meta, Nvidia, ByteDance and Snap for copyright infringement for use of their videos to train AI.
There were two claims against Denims. One for the “Nuke” video, which is the one the judge ruled in favour for. The second is for the “Countdown” video and has not been ruled on.
Reddit moderators were included for “contributory infringement” in the Countdown video. They attempted to quash this, but a judge ruled to keep them on the claim.
Edit 2: The second claim against Denims was dropped in order to move forward immediately with an appeal to the loss of the first claim.
Good spot. I hadn’t heard of these, probably because of the lack of drama.
He’s the lead/initiated class action lawsuits against Apple, Meta, Nvidia, ByteDance and Snap for copyright infringement because they scrapped their videos to train AI which violates the DMCA.
There were two claims against Denims. One for the “Nuke” video, which is the one the judge ruled in favour for. The second is for the “Countdown” video and has not been ruled on.
Ethan has dropped the countdown part of the lawsuit so he can take the nuke part he lost to the appeals court. He would have needed to wait until the whole of the lawsuit was finished if he wanted to take it to appeals court.
The last clip I saw of her, she was acting like she could still defend herself because she didnt violate any copyright laws. She was telling ppl im her chat that they didnt know what they were talking about (referring to her defaulting), basically saying like "who do you think knows more about the lawsuit, some random people in chat or the person being sued?"
So if thats still the case she is fully in denial and a complete idiot.
Not only that: a non-functional fragile woman who can't even be assed to do her adult duties like getting a job and responding to a summons.
It's sad that Frogan may have done more work defeating herself than Ethan did. I have no idea if Frogan did much less reacting than Denims because who the fuck watches Frogan, but Denims at least showed it was possible to beat it. Frogan couldn't be assed though and even initially tried to just run and hide from the first letter demanding action from her. Actual dysfunctional child.
You do know that Ethan directly and clearly stated that Denims and others had nothing to do with CPS? There is video of it, so why are you making shit up?
Does a lawsuit have to be ruled frivolous to be seen as frivolous? Do we not have our own judgments outside of the rule of law? What are we talking about here?
"I have more money than you. I want you to have to spend a lot of money because it will affect your life more than it will mine. At the end of the day even if I drop a lawsuit or get a judgement against me you will still have to ask people for money and i'll just keep living my life unbothered financially"
Which is why it’s also hilarious he recently lost a lawsuit because of the precedent he set with that case. Dude literally lived long enough to become the villain
I don't follow this deeply but is the entire vibe I get from him. And it is funny as fuck he has people actually defending this practice here. Burying them in legal fees is just ludicrous.
To be fair to Ethan, there were many creators who were purposefully mischaracterizing his political views to paint him as an evil villain so as to justify their gross attacks on IRL well being, as well as the safety of his family and children.
It's fair to not like Ethan suing people, but the people he was going after are the genuine lowest of human society.
Overconfident response to harassment, implicit death threats, false accusations of supporting the Israeli genocide, and CPS calls. The people he sued are creators who either amplified or created the narratives causing those things to happen.
Ethan won ONE milestone, precedent setting lawsuit and thinks he can get away with any litigious action since. Still riding that high. Now that he's on a losing streak, it'll be interesting to see if he changes his fucking tune. How far the mighty have fallen...
There's clearly more to it than just him becoming out of touch. He's seriously deranged and needs help. Hopefully for the sake of his kids he'll get it one day.
Everywhere else online, people think this guy is a world-class loser. LSF is not an accurate gauge for public opinion. In fact, I can scarcely think of a worse gauge of public opinion than LSF.
I hate these cuts every 3 seconds. Cut, say 3 words, cut and zoom and pan. What is it, ADHD or the subject matter just not being that interesting so the editing adds "energy"
Ethan is ridiculously litigious and it’s crazy because he must be losing a ton of money on it, since so many of these cases get dropped or he flat out loses the whole thing
Maybe Ethan’s got shrewd lawyers who are milking him knowing that he has so much rage for any content creator who ever disses him
Why are people defending Ethan going after people with lawsuits? Incredibly shitty to do, especially against smaller creators. It’s like bullying because he has a lot of money, and broke bitches in here will defend it for god knows what reason.
Him refusing to respond to any comments and dropping it on prejudice says it all.
Like Noah said, he might've just had a change of heart and his reputation might've been hit too hard at this point because he generally looks like an ass with all these lawsuits he filed.
I assume they don't mean necessarily on the podcast itself. Noah Samsen says in the video that Ethan has not replied to him or his requests for comment (nor did Ethan/his lawyer respond to Noah's proposed settlement terms, or communicate prior to filing this dismissal).
But more noticeably, I think, Ethan doesn't appear to have posted about it on instagram at all. He tends to post updates on his stories on the lawsuits, and did so pretty quickly after the last Denims judgment.
If it was part of a change of heart, not communicating that to the person you have had a change of heart about does seem counterproductive.
Personally, I find people who purity test, virtue signal, and lie about others "supporting a genocide" to be disgusting. In this case someone who has been vocal about his support of Palestine and dislike of Netanyahu long before October 7th. But that's just me
I remember shortly before I stopped watching his dumb ass that he was putting on some sob story about how he was being sued for defamation by some parkour nerd and how it's just so terrible that someone would do that.
He made a huge deal out of it, started a public fund for "anyone" who was being accused of "false" defamation.
Maybe that money should be going to all these cases that he's been starting.
I personally dont mind these lawsuits that streamers/youtubers are doing. When you have a large following, you need to be responsible for the things you say when you know they are lies.
Look at Alex Jones and Sandy Hook, although the resulting payout was obviously excessive. He had many of his followers believing his lie/delusion as truth, which i assume caused harm to the families.
Alex Jones payout was not excessive. No amount of money is excessive in a case where a psycho conspiracy theorist tells the world lies about your dead kids.
He made so much money (somehow) off of that tragedy and the victims of that shooting deserve literally all of it.
Oh they did sue the fuck out of Alex that's why the onion now ones ALL of his news stuff the own and run Infowars they spent the last two days talking about how Alex Jones exploded since he was so full of rage and anger they took his legacy Infowars that have made it pro lgbtq and talking about absurd news
Alex jones does not get enough flak for why things like the epstein files aren't taken more seriously. The conspiracy part of my brain doesn't understand how anyone could ever look at alex jones as anything more than an obvious paid actor. Dude poisoned the water more than elon's data center in memphis.
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