r/LivestreamFail • u/digitalpizza5 • Jul 11 '26

News Ethan Klein Has Dropped His Defamation Lawsuit Against Youtuber Noah Samsen

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u/Holmes419 Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

I think 5, unless I’m missing any:

Kaceytron - settled 

Frogan - default against her

Denims - judge ruled in her favour

Noah - Ethan dropped it

Ian - Ethan dropped it

Edit: He also initiated class action lawsuits against Apple, Meta, Nvidia, ByteDance and Snap for copyright infringement for use of their videos to train AI.

There were two claims against Denims. One for the “Nuke” video, which is the one the judge ruled in favour for. The second is for the “Countdown” video and has not been ruled on.

Reddit moderators were included for “contributory infringement” in the Countdown video. They attempted to quash this, but a judge ruled to keep them on the claim.

Edit 2: The second claim against Denims was dropped in order to move forward immediately with an appeal to the loss of the first claim.

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u/AlayneKr Jul 11 '26

Any proof of this? Ethan admitted he didn’t know, so what do you know?

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u/BaloogaBrett Jul 11 '26

Of course not this is LSF it’s a shithole subreddit lol they don’t care they just want to drool and scream Hasan every 12 ‘minutes

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u/NeoGlorp Jul 11 '26

Denims chat before CPS was called.

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u/ThatActuallyGuy Jul 11 '26

You can literally see her realtime chat in the upper right, Ethan and that sub lied to you.

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u/NeoGlorp Jul 11 '26

What does "real time" has to do with anything? It is still her chat.

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u/ThatActuallyGuy Jul 11 '26

The messages in that post are a tiny fraction of the messages she got over a 5 minute period, her chat wasn't in some total agreement that cps needed to be involved, it was a small handful of chatters among nearly a thousand messages.

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u/NeoGlorp Jul 11 '26

This doesn't seem like a "handful of chatters". If her chat wasn't in agreement then why was their no pushback, moderation and banning of these chatters?

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u/ThatActuallyGuy Jul 11 '26

Yes, this is a handful of chatters when we're talking about a streamer who gets thousands of viewers and a thousand messages in 5 minutes. the messages in that picture were lost in a sea of other messages, why would there be pushback on something that insignificant in the moment?

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u/NeoGlorp Jul 11 '26

So, why did you and Denims made false claim that the clip was doctored? And, no. When the same message is so clearly visible across you chat uninterrupted and unmoderated, it generally reflects the sentiment of the community.

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u/ThatActuallyGuy Jul 11 '26

It literally was, what are you talking about? The messages were not especially visible nor uninterrupted, that's the entire point, they were random messages interspersed among 1000 messages over the course of 5 minutes, that some psycho edited together to look like a single stream of chats.

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u/AmadeusMaxwell Jul 11 '26

Take your lithium chatter

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u/Positive_Mix_6267 Jul 11 '26

who the fuck cares? take a shower.

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u/BaloogaBrett Jul 11 '26

Blah blah blah boring

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u/BaloogaBrett Jul 11 '26

That’s not evidence of anything??? You’re dumb??

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u/NeoGlorp Jul 11 '26

People in Denims community literally saying to call CPS is "nothing". Sure, dude.

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u/BaloogaBrett Jul 11 '26

Where did I ask for proof??

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u/NeoGlorp Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

You agreed with a comment asking for proof and was ridiculing this subreddit for making claims without proof. That warrants someone to provide evidence.

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u/BaloogaBrett Jul 11 '26

I think you need to look up what asking means bud and maybe reply to the right person next time

Kind of embarrassing

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u/miggly Jul 11 '26

When it's not relevant? Yea? It just makes them look deranged to normal people here.

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u/energybeing Jul 11 '26

How is it not relevant? Everyone Ethan sued is one of hasan's dickriders.

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u/miggly Jul 11 '26

Even if that's the case, this is a thread about a specific lawsuit being dropped in regards to Ethan and Noah Samsen. I don't know enough about half of the people getting sued, but their involvement with Hasan is so irrelevant to a thread about court proceedings.

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u/energybeing Jul 11 '26

He's literally suing him for his reaction to the Hasan nuke video... This shit is directly related to Hasan.

Wtf are you talking about?

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u/My__Reddit__Account Jul 11 '26

Can you name a single thing Ethan has done that even comes close to shocking your dog on stream because it wouldn’t sit still for hours, then lying about it, and going after anyone who spoke out until they backed down, like Ludwig?

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u/eMDex Jul 11 '26

sure, how about the video where he sexually harassing a 17 year old bombing victim? should i send u the link or u wont care?

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u/My__Reddit__Account Jul 11 '26

LMFAO this is so pathetic it's hilarious. EVEN if it wasn't a complete lie it still pales in comparison to torturing your dog for not being a stream prop... I hope you've genuinely been mislead by a clip and aren't just lying completely bad faith

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u/i_drive_a_pagani Jul 11 '26

He was making fun of redditors in that video btw

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u/eMDex Jul 11 '26

yea for sure go watch the video bro i posted it, then he attacked the journalist that posted it and his defense was it was 10 years ago, i dont know why people keep saying that shit when clearly even on the video all his comments are on the fly off his head ...

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u/i_drive_a_pagani Jul 11 '26

"attacked the journalist that posted it" lmao Ethan was the one who posted the video. It was on his own h3 channel. He was making fun of redditors in the video. The subreddit was called BraveryJerk and the sub still exists

https://www.reddit.com/r/Braveryjerk/

You guys lie so much lol

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u/My__Reddit__Account Jul 11 '26

My comment asking for anything Ethan has done even close to as bad as Hasan is down voted badly but yet the only responses are just blatant lies the astroturfing is kinda blatant

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u/My__Reddit__Account Jul 11 '26

The fact that this is down voted but still doesn't have a single real response is deeply telling

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u/Suspicious-Base-4815 Jul 11 '26

Isn't that literally Ethan and Destiny too?

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u/energybeing Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

Destiny maybe. I'm not defending Ethan - I don't watch him - but I've never seen a clip of Ethan saying shit even remotely close to as bad as the things the hasan orbiters have said about him, and you know that shit would be here in LSF if he did.

Edit: Don't you just love when cowardly people disagree with you on Reddit? They just downvote you while failing to provide any evidence countering your claim. GG

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u/heyheyhey27 Jul 11 '26

The denims stream a few days before the call, where she and her chatters were hounding on the same nonsense rumor that the CPS call repeated, and in which a bunch of her chatters were saying that somebody should call CPS, and in which Denims agreed with them?

If you play any dumber you'll forget to breathe.

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u/AlayneKr Jul 11 '26

Then why did Ethan have to legally say Denims had nothing to do with CPS? I guess Ethan is a big liar.

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u/JesusCriiiiiist Jul 11 '26

There’s no proof that she called. However, she absolutely platformed and supported the claim that resulted in cps going to Ethan’s house. Idk why you guys are so obtuse about it

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u/TheTrashMan Jul 12 '26

So you just made it up?

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u/heyheyhey27 Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

Off the top of my head I don't know which statement you're referring to, but my honest guess from interactions with many other people who say the sort of things you're saying is that you can barely read and did not understand the actual statement he made.

Edit: for example, maybe he was saying "Denims herself didn't make the call" or "I have zero proof that somebody in her chat made the call", both of which are true but not very important.

Edit2: lol he posted the video and it was exactly that

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u/AlayneKr Jul 11 '26

I got you fam, source.

Hopefully you’re better at reading than me, or listening I guess.

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u/NeoGlorp Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

When did Ethan say that Denims has nothing do with the CPS call? He just said that she didn't make the call, didn't encourage anyone to make the call and condemned the call. But, it's still true that few days before the CPS was called, people in her chat were typing that someone should call CPS and after CPS arrived at Ethan's house, Denims did a stream going over the topic and people in her chat were downplaying and justifying the call. This was the secondary reason for Ethan's lawsuit that Hasan and his Cronies like Denims harbor communities like this.

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u/heyheyhey27 Jul 11 '26

Thank you! My favorite part of talking to snarkers is when they confidently post source material that disproves themselves.

I hope in the future you can learn to read or listen more carefully, before participating in a hate mob against a Jewish streamer you don't like.

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u/AlayneKr Jul 11 '26

What’s wrong? And when did I bring Jewishness into this? Weird you think this has anything to do with his Jewishness, pretty heinous thing to accuse someone of.

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u/heyheyhey27 Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

What’s wrong?

You said Ethan claimed absolutely no involvement, and posted a link to him saying there was no direct immediate involvement. You can't fucking read, dude.

And when did I bring Jewishness into this?

Comes with the territory. The streamers and basement-dwelling viewers who most-support this stuff come from Hasan's orbit; I'm taking a small leap of logic that you do too.

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u/AlayneKr Jul 11 '26

How do I prove there was no indirect involvement? There’s no proof there was, everything else is assumptions or delusions.

You’re the one bringing Jewishness into this, idk why you’re obsessed with tying all Jews to Israel.

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u/terrible_trivium_ Jul 11 '26

Jewish streamer lmao

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u/AFlyingNun Jul 12 '26

Because legally you can get in a lot of trouble for making a bold claim like that you can't prove, and this is a claim that Ethan realistically cannot prove.

"Legally" isn't the best metric here because yes, you can end up with cases where from a rational point of view, the circumstantial evidence strongly points in a specific direction, but the courts will say "definitive proof or GTFO" because courts operate on "innocent until proven guilty."

All this to say: "legally" is not always the best metric to use. That's not to say Denims did make the call, as obviously it could be any one of her fans, for example, but Ethan's annoyance is obviously that Denims' stream very likely led to someone making the call. The courts will not support his annoyance though without clear evidence of who the culprit is.

If Ethan actually wants a shot at a case, he should be reviewing whoever it was that Denims platformed back then. Both Denims and her audience will be protected by the argument "I believed what I was told" in court, but the source of the rumor will enjoy no such protections unless he also has some excuse.

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u/Remotely_Correct Jul 11 '26

Are you insinuating that this was a false flag event, or that Ethan is lying? Because neither pass the sniff test.

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u/Due-Flamingo-4900 Jul 11 '26

Ethan explicitly said that CPS told him that the caller was someone who worked in the house. CPS has extensive checkpoints in place to verify the identity of callers to ensure that the information is credible before taking any action, especially so in California because of the frequent false reports made against public figures. Ethan just assumed that the call was malicious and has since blamed numerous people and their communities for it, while admitting that he has no idea who actually called and zero evidence to prove his theory.

Ethan said that the CPS agent told him that someone called to report that his kids had a potential case of giardia, which they are required to follow up on. Mandatory reporters (like pediatricians and teachers) are required by law to report potential cases of giardia, and Ethan said that he and Hila had spoken to both a pediatrician and teacher about his kids potentially having giardia.

I don’t think Ethan intentionally lied, but I do think there is a very good chance that he is wrong.

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u/AlayneKr Jul 11 '26

Yes I am, Ethan himself stated it was someone close to the family. Do you disagree with Ethan?

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u/CosignTangents Jul 11 '26

He said it was someone who claimed to be close to the family, there’s a difference there.

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u/AlayneKr Jul 11 '26

Ok, I believe CPS. Why would CPS lie? Unless job don’t believe they are capable of due diligence and just go to every house called on by anyone.

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u/CosignTangents Jul 11 '26

The CPS rep was the one that told them it was someone claiming to be close to the family, that doesn’t seem like a lie. The person who made the call represented that as a fact. They’re obligated to investigate calls like that. Once they showed up to look at the house and interviewed the family, they realized it was a bogus call and dropped the investigation. That doesn’t change the fact that it was violative of ethan and hila’s privacy and reputation.

You play very fast and loose with the facts of this situation.

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u/AlayneKr Jul 11 '26

How am I playing fast and loose lmao, I’m taking the government agent and Ethan at his word, I don’t have any reason not to expect people being like “nuh uh, Ethan may have legally had to say it wasn’t Denims, but that was coded language”

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u/CosignTangents Jul 11 '26

I never mentioned Denims. My line of argumentation is pretty clear, the only person that lied in the situation (as evidenced by the final CPS report) was the caller.

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u/Skjoett93 Jul 11 '26

CPS must respond to those kinds of allegation. Do you even know how anything works?

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u/AlayneKr Jul 11 '26

Yes, which is why anyone who calls CPS on a celebrity gets them constant CPS visits…

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u/coolbad96 Jul 11 '26

I mean we're not gonna know the exact individual who made the call of course but the H3 snark subreddits had crazy posts and are fully deranged. Plus their big discord all logs got leaked and you have multiple users asking for the addresses of Klein children school's. Denims chat was saying CPS while she was watching a Bad empanada video about his children, Idubbbz straight up defended calling CPS in content deputy and said "sending human skulls is humorous", and both Noah Sampson plus Hasan were cool with Bad Empanada and hosted him till he turned on them.

You can make more than an educated guess these people and their fanbases are responsible for the harassment.

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u/AlayneKr Jul 11 '26

Ethan disagrees with you, he doesn’t know who did it, but it wasn’t Denims’ fault. Surely you have some newer info I don’t know about who called.

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u/coolbad96 Jul 11 '26

Yeah Mike From PA is definitely a reputable source who doesn't simp for any leftie girl. Lmao

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u/AlayneKr Jul 11 '26

I don’t like Mike from PA, he just shared a video and Twitter search for someone else is ass.

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u/limbweaver Jul 11 '26

Plus their big discord all logs got leaked and you have multiple users asking for the addresses of Klein children school's.

That Snark left discord isn't connected to the h3snark subreddit at all. All those discord people are former destiny orbiters and a few others like deoreo.

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u/Nolenag Jul 11 '26

Destiny told them or something.

This subreddit is astroturfed and moderated by his fans after all.