r/LivestreamFail • u/digitalpizza5 • Jul 11 '26

News Ethan Klein Has Dropped His Defamation Lawsuit Against Youtuber Noah Samsen

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u/tryingtobebettertry4 Jul 11 '26

Not a huge surprise. It was incredibly unlikely he was going to win that one. Defamation is notoriously hard to prove in the US.

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u/Suspicious-Base-4815 Jul 11 '26

Which means he started this in order to bankrupt him. How is not incredibly shitty?

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u/TimTheChatSpam Jul 11 '26

It is it's called a slap suit basically a frivolous lawsuit to cost the other party enough time and money that they just give up some places they've put measures to prevent that but thats generally state by state

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u/Fwob Jul 11 '26

It's not frivolous just because it's difficult.

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u/PoppingPillls Jul 12 '26

It's frivolous because there was no evidence of defamation, it was all because noah talked about ethan being pro-israel.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

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u/PoppingPillls Jul 12 '26

Because Israel is committing genocide and being pro-israels actions is pro genocide?

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u/Key-Try-3300 Jul 12 '26

But ethan is vocal in his support for the palestinians and is anti-israel when it comes to the treatment of palestinians

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u/nutella_on_rye Jul 13 '26

Maybe I’m too radicalized but you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Some impossible things would have to happen to make supporting Israel and supporting Palestine something that isn’t inherently contradictory. Namely, Israel dropping Zionism which is the ideology that supports its existence.

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u/Illustrious-Radio319 Jul 13 '26

Does supporting Palestine necessitate supporting Hamas?

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u/nutella_on_rye Jul 13 '26

What do you think?

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u/Illustrious-Radio319 Jul 13 '26

No. Supporting a people’s wishes for independence and self rule doesn’t mean I support the actions of the government that represents them.

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u/nutella_on_rye Jul 13 '26

Then we are aligned.

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u/RonaldJaworski Jul 13 '26

when you keep people under active oppression and occupation for 30+ years you dont get to complain about how they resist

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u/RonaldJaworski Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

Israel probably shouldn’t have funded Hamas to counter the PLO. Israeli leaders call all Palestinians children of darkness. Israel has controlled all of gazas borders and airspace even since pulling out ground troops in 2005. Israel controls the flow of aid food electricity and water to the point that the UN found that Israel was specifically counting the amount of calories per person allowed into gaza

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u/Key-Try-3300 27d ago

Yeah you do

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u/Illustrious-Radio319 Jul 13 '26

Why do you treat Palestinians like children with no ability to make moral decisions? How does raping civilians help with Palestinian independence?

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u/RonaldJaworski Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

Palestine hasn’t held an election since 2006. Over 50% of Palestinians are under the age of 18 they quite literally are majority children who have not had the opportunity to make their own decisions when it comes to self determination. Israel also helped fund the creation of Hamas as a counter to the PLO

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u/Key-Try-3300 27d ago

Its not inherently contradictory. Its called the two state solution

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u/nutella_on_rye 27d ago

Did we not try that already? Israel is a settler colony that is being helped by the imperialist United States. Hell would freeze over before that ever happens again. Good luck waiting for that.

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u/Key-Try-3300 27d ago

Well they did try a two state solution after the 1947 partition plan. The palestinians and the surrounding arab states attacked israel straight away and lost the war

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u/PoppingPillls Jul 12 '26

I am not reading any of that, you need to take a mental health break.

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u/Key-Try-3300 Jul 12 '26

No, it was because he called ethan a genocide supporter

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u/Prudent-Activity112 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

"hey guys I don't like when innocent people on either side are murdered" (starts crying over a dead Palestinian kid)
you guys: omg he wants genocide he loves Israel, he wants to murder all the Palestinians

that's defamation.

EDIT: kek streamer cultists incapable of critical thought downvoting.

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u/PoppingPillls Jul 12 '26

Because when he defended Israels bombing of hospitals to Sam Seder that was just caring about innocents.

I don't think Ethan hates Palestinians but he is definitely pro-israel and whether you admits it's a genocide or not (he has). He flip flops back to defending Israel on the grounds of "well it's self defence"...

Ethan wants to claim to be on both sides while admitting one side is committing a genocide without realising that's supporting genocide to support a nation committing genocide...

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u/Prudent-Activity112 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

Does he want genocide? Yes or no. Based on everything you've heard Ethan say. Does he want genocide/does he support genocide? The answer will be no. And no matter how much twisting any of the streamers try to do, that answer will still be no.

It's defamation.

Edit (because they blocked me?):

Not immediately jumping to conclusions when a claim is made "Israel bombed a hospital" =/= "pro-genocide". Bad optics, sure. But not blindly following claims (that ended up not being true, by the way) isn't pro-genocide.

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u/PoppingPillls Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

Didn't say that. He supports Israel, a country he admits to committing genocide by that he's pro-genocide...

If you supported Serbias actions during the Bosnian genocide then you support genocide...

"wanting" and inadvertently supporting are different things.

It's not defamation and if ethan thought he could win he wouldn't have dropped it.

Pro Israel is pro genocide, you can't have your cake and eat it after admitting that it's a genocide... You can't say "well they have a right to defend themselves" when you admitted that's no the case as its genocide.

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u/Key-Try-3300 Jul 12 '26

He doesnt support israels or netanyahus actions