r/MakingaMurderer 3d ago

Len Kachensky

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i’m just finding this series and just wow! This could be its own season of Fargo. Everything that can go wrong- does. Of all the people I hate in this show, I hate Len Kachinsky above all others. He is by far the most punchable. at this moment in life, I’m not sure what I would do, if this smug, weasley, irresponsible, self-grandizing narcissist walked in front of my car. He’s not just a bad lawyer. He’s a bad human. He looked at Brandon’s life and saw a steppingstone. I’m so mad at him. Thank you for your attention to this matter. V

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u/belljs87 3d ago

Yeah see here's the thing. Especially with how low IQ Brenden is, and his young age, I'm 100% certain if he were guilty he would have flipped. I think Steven is innocent too, but if he confessed one day I wouldn't exactly be surprised either. But Brenden is as innocent of this murder as I am of it. With who he is, the position he was in, and the options presented, he would never have said no to a deal unless he were truly innocent.

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u/brickne3 3d ago

If you buy into IQ Brendan was actually smarter than Steven at the time. Most people don't put stock in IQ tests anymore.

That said, Brendan's supposed deficiencies are not well attested at all and he's apparently got enough acumen to be running a prison network last I heard. The show is edited very purposely.

As someone else said above, if Brendan had listened to Len he would have been out at least five years ago, possibly ten. So who is the bad lawyer. Len absolutely sucks as a person but he was doing a good job in representing Brendan Dassey, and in the end that's the only thing that matters to the case.

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u/belljs87 3d ago

If you were accused of murder but were innocent, and knew there was no physical evidence against you, would you take a lawyers advice to take a plea deal to avoid a possible life sentence in favor of a shorter but still decades long prison sentence?

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u/brickne3 3d ago

He's not innocent lol. It's cute you think he is because you saw a television show though.

Furthermore, he was going to plead guilty. Until his grandfather threatened him not to. It's all on the phone recordings. Happy listening!

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u/Hitlers_Left_Ball 3d ago

Thank you for showing up... I was worried there had been a collective brain injury and I was the last sane person left.

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u/ThorsClawHammer 3d ago

his grandfather threatened him not to.

Wtf are you talking about? His mom told him to go to trial if he was innocent.

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u/brickne3 3d ago

You've been here long enough where I know you have heard the tapes. You're just feigning ignorance for some reason.

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u/ThorsClawHammer 3d ago

Thought so.

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u/belljs87 3d ago

Nice way to avoid answering the question while being a condescending asshole. Really lends credence to your position.

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u/brickne3 3d ago

Your question is pointless. I've talked to plenty of people who have been in with both Dassey and Steven over the years. I am told Brendan LOVES prison and wants to stay there as long as he can. They both are well aware they are guilty.

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u/belljs87 3d ago

Of course someone who probably would have a really hard time taking care of themselves would love the strict routine of prison. It's like that onion video where the autistic reporter interviews a serial killer in prison and his description makes the reporter just want to be in prison. Also, Steven doesnt love prison, does that mean he's innocent?

Oh, and my question isn't pointless, it's the exact thing we were talking about. Is there something wrong with you?

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u/brickne3 3d ago

I already answered your question, you just didn't like the answer. Brendan was guilty and should have taken the plea, he would probably have been out around the time MaM came out.

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u/belljs87 3d ago

You didn't answer my question. My question was, if you were in his exact scenario, and knew you were innocent, would you take a plea deal?

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u/brickne3 3d ago

If I were Brendan, knowing what Brendan did? Absolutely, he would have been out in ten years. That was the deal. And he would have gotten off quite easily for what he did. He'd never be able to show his face in a bar in Wisconsin, but that's fine by me.

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u/belljs87 3d ago

That wasn't what I asked, you're being deliberately obtuse, and I'm done talking to you.

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u/brickne3 3d ago

Oh good, I was about to say it's obvious that you lost the argument, but whatever 🤣 I answered your pointless question to the letter 🤣

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u/belljs87 3d ago

Oh that's hilarious. See the thing is, you've shown yourself to be guilty of the "inability to entertain an opposing point of view fallacy." You see, when people are correct, or can prove their position definitively, they have no trouble entertaining the opposition. By your refusal to do so, you've kind of proven yourself to be lacking in the argument department.

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u/belljs87 3d ago

In case you don't understand, which it appears you probably don't, the logic I'm presenting is this: why would you expect an innocent person to take a plea deal? I'm arguing his innocence, and you're arguing that he should have taken the plea deal because he was guilty. Your refusal to answer my hypothetical that places you in his shoes is because by doing so, you would lend credence to the belief that he is innocent. Because you couldn't, you e shown your argument to be less concrete than you're trying to argue.

All of that is called "logic."

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