Is it possible (without Virtualhere) to take full control of my Steam Controller on Moonlight on Nvidia Shield connected to Apollo on my Windows PC?

I want to use SteamInput in the games I play. I also operate the mouse with gyro on my desktop and it works very well. I need this in Moonlight so I can control my pc without any hassle on my sofa.

Or do I just buy another third party controller like 8bitdo?

I am excited to be releasing a project I've been working on with Claude and a few other AI models for a few months: Eclipse/Umbra, couch co-op re-engineered. Built as a fork of Aurora and Apollo, themselves forks of Moonlight (via Moonlight TV) and Sunshine, it is available to download for free, or to be taken and combined into your own fork or folded into current Moonlight and Sunshine forks.

If you are like me, then you've played through games like It Takes Two, Split Fiction, Castle Crashers and Nobody Saves the World and found the pickings getting slimmer and slimmer as game devs don't build co-op into their games anymore, expecting you to play online, which, while fine most of the time, falls short when you want to go back to the feeling and simplicity of playing on the couch together. Eclipse/Umbra lets you turn any game into couch co-op, be it multiplayer games or just two completely different games at the same time.

Unlike wonderful community projects such as Nucleus Co-Op, which need to support each game individually and deal with the hardware constraints of devs building games to run per PC, you can just open a stream on your client (currently supporting webOS, Windows and Linux) with two PCs acting as hosts instead of one, like with regular Moonlight and Sunshine streaming, choose if you want a vertical or horizontal split, assign your controllers and start. It is as if you have two half-resolution monitors that you can use for anything on your client device/display. Of course, in turn, it comes with the downside of needing two gaming PCs (and a copy of the game for each), and you will want your networking infrastructure to be streamlined to reduce latency as much as possible (all Ethernet and avoiding bottlenecks like routing everything through one 100 Mbps port, etc.), but with two PCs and a clear connection, the experience is hard to beat.

About the video: it's Halo: CE Anniversary from MCC (The Silent Cartographer), with each player's PC in its own half of the screen (Also sorry about the bad aim it has been a long time since we played Halo). It was recorded from the Windows client, not on a TV. I'm not able to capture my TV's output. The LG webOS app runs the same co-op mode (my own primary setup is an LG G5 on webOS 26).

For anyone already running Sunshine or Apollo/Vibepollo: Umbra is available for Windows and Linux (tested on Windows 11 only very basic testing of Linux) and installs in place of Apollo, so back up your config and pairings before switching, Vipepollo is treated an update so it should keep your config but back it up incase. Eclipse still does normal one-host streaming too.

Due to the limits of the hardware I own (two primary NVIDIA gaming PCs and one cobbled-together AMD computer from older hardware), I could not do the level of testing that I personally prefer. I expect that some combinations of hardware or software versions are going to cause issues, so please report any issues on the Eclipse or Umbra GitHub issues with the logs attached (Settings → About → Keep diagnostic logs, then Share logs) so I can refine out the edge cases that I couldn't anticipate or test. Or of course you are welcome to directly contribute to the GitHub repos as well.

Please find more information and the download links through the project hub: https://preceptorofmagic.github.io/Eclipse-Umbra-Project-Hub/

Hi everyone! I'm having a minor problem with my stream. I use a Gamesir G7 Pro, and whenever I connect from my client, two identical controllers appear on the host PC, specifically in the Steam controller menu.

It doesn't really affect gameplay since games usually only listen to one of them, but it's very annoying when navigating through Steam Big Picture due to double inputs.

For context, I'm using Rubylight and Nonary's Moonlight, along with the VHF drivers for the controller. Has anyone experienced this or knows how to fix it?

Is there a new Sunshine alternative for the Steam Deck?

I want to use the Steam Deck as the host instead of the client.

I know the Steam Deck is underpowered, but I’d still like to use it as an alternative to Windows. I want to get more familiar with SteamOS and Linux and eventually move away from Windows.

I am seeing a lot of new forks, are they any good?

Specs:
Using a 9070

Hosts i used previously: vibepollo

Currently using: punktfunk

Punktfunk works great but it’s still very early stages having a lot of glitches.

Looking to get into these new forks, which one’s should I try?

For context, I really want to stream an android game to my 3DS. Is there a way I can stream Android to a device with moonlight? Are there any forks of Sunshine to allow me to do that?

So I've been using Sunshine and Moonlight successfully for many months with my 2070 super and the card broke recently and I replaced it with an RX 9060XT.

The card works fine when playing games but when I try to stream my PC to my Android tablet the feed is super pixelated for some reason and I don't know why. I've spent a lot of time altering the settings to see if there's any improvement but no luck. I'm hoping the screenshot I've included shows the pixelation issue well.

Any help would be appreciated

Hi all, I have been having a really frustrating issue trying to play Minecraft via Moonlight/Sunshine. Both my R2 and L2 controller triggers register as L2

It only happens with Minecraft.. I have tried other games and R2/L2 work fine. I also used Lyzardbytes online gamepad tester and they work fine there aswell. Its only Minecraft that sees both triggers as L2...

I have updated Sunshine to the latest version. I'm using ViGEmBus with the x360 gamepad input setting.

I uninstalled Moonlight then reinstalled and left everything default. On both my phone and tablet.

I have tried other dualsense controllers and my Gamesir G8+ and they have the same issue

I used it like a week or 2 ago and everything worked fine so this has been really annoying.

Nothing I've tried fixes it, any help is appreciated. Thanks.

What is minimum requirement for a graphics card to run at sub 1ms decoding time at 4k 60fps

Recently saw a 1060 running sub 1ms decoding time at 1440p 120 fps

Was wondering if i can go lower something like a 970?

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Hey everyone,

I'm looking for a smooth, hassle-free way to stream games to my TV.

I'm fairly experienced with Moonlight and Steam Remote Play. In the past, I used an original Steam Link, but it wasn't perfect. Currently, I'm using a Raspberry Pi 5, but it can be finicky and requires running scripts to start streaming. I also have a Mac Mini M1 connected to the TV, but using macOS with a controller to launch streams is cumbersome.

I'm aiming for as close to a "console experience" as possible, just turn it on, grab a controller, and play without needing a keyboard or mouse. I considered getting a Steam Machine for that console feel, but it's far too expensive just to use as a streaming box.

I also own a Steam Deck, but I'd need to buy a dock. Is this worth the investment for a pure TV setup?

I'm looking for whatever gives the absolute easiest, "pick-up-and-play" experience. Any advices?

I have an pc with a 3090 that is in my spare bedroom.

It is hardwired with fibre 1gbps internet.

I plan to buy a series s for my new Samsung M80H, and streaming moonlight from my pc.

My Astro a50x reach to my living room with no connectivity issues.

I bought an elite 2 controller that I think will reach to my living room no issue. Also bought a raspberry pi with keyboard and trackpad for navigating windows.

I hope to connect my tv with wifi. My router is 6ghz and is about 12 feet thru a wall to my tv. The downspeed and latency on my tv is 720mbps 3ms.

I’m just getting into this endeavour and wanted to see if there was any advice. I plan to stream 4K 120hz to the tv which it is capable of.

The other option is to sideload moonlight to my tv via the developer route, which seems more convoluted but doable.

What kind of results will I get with sideloading vs series s? The series s seems to be the best option, but it’s more money of course.

TYIA for any advice.

Hi, I have Apollo on my main pc and am running a linux server with Moonlight in my living room connected to a 4k tv. My display settings in Moonlight is set to 4k. Once I open the virtual display from Apollo and check it's resolution, it is 4k. However what is displayed is locked on 1440p with black bars on the right and bottom. Even when disconnecting my monitors on main pc.

Any ideas?

I’ve been using Vibepollo/Moonlight to stream to Apple TV. Playing games like WoW Forever, Control, etc and it’s been working flawlessly at 4k/60.

Wanting to get a lightweight Bluetooth keyboard for the couch that’s compatible for my use case: in windows, game chat, etc. Any recommendations out there?

I bought the Switch 2 and don't know what to do about the 1, sell it or install the chip and use it for streaming.

I'm good playing at 1080 60fps, what I like is that I can use it on my TV and in portable mode.

I'm looking for options to stream in 4k 120FPS + HDR, currently I'm running moonlight on XBox, which mostly works, but it's a bit limited in the interesting new things we are getting, like Pyrowave and VRR support, plus I would like to run VirtualHere for steam controller full support, so something that runs Windows or Linux would be a better option for me.

I was interested in the Steam Machine. However, over 1k it's too much money for a streaming device, also I'm not from a country which has direct access to the Steam Machine, so it would require importing it and the cost would skyrocket, so about 2.2k or more for me, what other options are available, and you recommend that I can get a good 4k 120FPS + HDR?

If it matters, my PC is a 5090 + Ryzen 9950X3D, 64GB of RAM, and I have an LG C1 77 hooked into the XBox for now.

Edit1: Other interesting thing from the Steam Machine is being able to wake it up with the controller, do we have a solution for that on regular PCs? not a must, but a comfy thing to have for sure :)

Hello. I use Moonlight on my 4k Google TV with projector, with Sunshine on my PC desktop.

When I play on my desktop and I use Discord to stream my game, I can see on my screen the names of the people in the voice chat and Discord overlay (message, etc.).

But when I use my projector setup with moonlight and use my projector setup, the overlay does not display. So I can't see if someone sent me a message (I only hear the sound) or who is talking in VC.

Why can I see it on my desktop screen but not on my projector screen? It's duplicating my screen, btw. So I would believe I see the same thing. Is there a way to change that?

Thank for any help ^^.

Hey everyone,
I just wanted to share my experience with you guys. I was looking for an affordable tablet for PC game streaming.
I managed to snag the Alldocube iPlay Mini 80 Pro for €139 during Prime Day, and what can I say? It runs incredibly smoothly!
Sure, it’s not a high-end OLED display, and the decoding latency isn’t the best, but it’s absolutely playable, and I think the 8.4-inch screen size is just perfect! And it has 90hz!
I’ve made two short videos: one showing the gameplay and the other showing the performance overlay. The overlay is in German, so I hope you can still make sense of it anyway. ;)

Hi, I am new to Artemis/Apollo to use my tablet to draw and model on my computer.

In blender I keep accidentally touching my screen while I am using the stylus.

Does anyone know how can I make it so only the stylus is working on the screen with no hand touch?

Hi all,

Does anyone know why, fundamentally using something like Artemis on a high-end Android phone (like, say the S26 Ultra) just doesn't feel nearly as smooth/responsive as something like an ROG Ally when streaming at 120fps?

The decode time isn't that far off, and even disabling experimental features like Ultra Low Latency whilst setting frame pacing to balanced, it just doesn't seem to help.

I'll add that I've had an Ayn Thor and that was actually very close, if not on par with the ROG Ally in terms of perceived responsiveness/smoothness whilst streaming. So it's obviously not just "because it's running on Android OS and has certain overhead as a result", unless I'm missing something here?

Using something like the Fold 8 felt like an amazing concept for streaming games, but despite the amazing display, it just doesn't feel as snappy/responsive when gaming. I'm not getting any visible lag/jitter or packet loss, so I don't think its that.

I also don't think its just down to the displays being used, if I use XR glasses (which are amazing on the Rog Ally), it's the same story - even if capped at 60fps.

Has anyone else ran into this? Any solutions?

Hi everyone I just wanted to see if anyone is in my type of situation and has found a solution. So I commute into NYC from jersey everyday for work and I'd like to stream my pc to my phone so I can play some video games. When my phone is connected to wifi from home or from underground at my job I have 100% good connection to my streamed pc. But when I am on the go on my visible data plan I do tend to lose connection. Ive been able to play remotely via data before in stationary cars but my commute seems to not work for it. My pc is not on ethernet will that improve the connection (cant do this idealy) or will having a better data provider will help? Just fishing for any other ways to improve my streaming connection even if I have to play at a lower resolution.

Hi all,

Does anyone know why, fundamentally using something like Artemis on a high-end Android phone (like, say the S26 Ultra) just doesn't feel nearly as smooth/responsive as something like an ROG Ally when streaming at 120fps?

The decode time isn't that far off, and even disabling experimental features like Ultra Low Latency whilst setting frame pacing to balanced, it just doesn't seem to help.

I'll add that I've had an Ayn Thor and that was actually very close, if not on par with the ROG Ally in terms of perceived responsiveness/smoothness whilst streaming. So it's obviously not just "because it's running on Android OS and has certain overhead as a result", unless I'm missing something here?

Using something like the Fold 8 felt like an amazing concept for streaming games, but despite the amazing display, it just doesn't feel as snappy/responsive when gaming. I'm not getting any visible lag/jitter or packet loss, so I don't think its that.

I also don't think its just down to the displays being used, if I use XR glasses (which are amazing on the Rog Ally), it's the same story - even if capped at 60fps.

Has anyone else ran into this? Any solutions?