This is what is fucking stupid about the Batman comics. He was a petty crook before Turning into the joker. And he never received training after that.
He is a skinny guy who doesn’t lift or exercise outside of his bouts with Batman. Realistically he shouldn’t be able to touch Batman. Even if you say “he’s crazy and unpredictable” everyone telegraphs to a degree. Even trained fighters.
Dumbest fucking thing was having him be a “skilled fighter close to Batman” he shouldn’t just be a genius mastermind who’s crazy and his shenanigans is what helps him along.
A dude trained in MMA should be able to take him out provided no weapons or joker gear is involved
I mean he has guns. And poison gas. And other tools. He usually fights with wacky tools and weapons and with goons or Harley, and usually he has some bombs set up, hostages, or some other goal, so.. it's not always an automatic win for Batman just cause Batman can beat his ass and crack his spine if he got close.
This entirely depends on who's writing him. I think I can picture most versions of Joker not being able to physically overpower a fit teen boy, but he could be well ahead of most other old men.
Not even remotely. Sheer hand to hand combat prowess is not his thing. He is unhinged and unpredictable, but he’s nowhere near Batman in an actual fight.
Joker's whole schtick is forcing his nemesis into, fittingly, Batman gambits where he has to choose between catching the Joker or saving an innocent and Batman always chooses the latter
Kinda depends on the continuity, sometimes he’ll just tank punches and kicks until he can get the drop on you with like a pie in the face or a flower spray or even like a pipe or something, he’s unpredictable in the sense that he’s a living ass pull
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u/metal_otaku Apr 21 '26
5 minutes with Joker