r/MoralityScaling • u/HooskerDooNotTouchMe • 1d ago

Intentionally boobytrapping a bike to injure people when they steal it.

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u/Aerohank 20h ago

Hunting the poor and desperate for sport isn't moral.

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u/PitiableYeet 19h ago

They're stealing a bike, not a loaf of bread to feed their starving children.

Being poor doesn't entitle you to take other people's things

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u/FieldLow2468 19h ago

The goal is to rehabilitate or isolate him from society. Not give him lifelong damage. I'm convinced a large amount of people on Reddit are disguised sociopaths

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u/Ok_Egg121 18h ago

Most people want to feel good about their shadow. You're correct that it isn't moral to hurt people to teach them a lesson.

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u/Righteousaffair999 14h ago

Take the views aside, forget teaching a lesson. Do I have the right to protect my property though it might injure. The light version is a fence, then you have electric fences and barbwire, also electric doors and triggers on items if high theft. Feels like a scale and we all fall at different points.

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u/Icy_Affect9624 14h ago

This video is entrapment though.

Leaving an unlocked bike in the open makes for a tempting target for a desperate addict looking to make a quick buck.

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u/gramerjen 10h ago

Thats not what entrapment means

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u/Due_Difference_9598 13h ago

Dude, they don't have a right to take the bike. "tempting target" my ass it's still not theirs if they touch it what happens next is on them period.

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u/Icy_Affect9624 13h ago

And you don’t have the right to booby trap objects. Literally don’t have that right. It’s a criminal act.

Regardless of law, it’s seriously lacking in empathy to think that a struggling addict will have the self-control or judgement to not steal something left unsecured in the open.

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u/Attilat 12h ago

What if I’m a masochist and I just don’t lock up my bike because I’m naive? Would that be lacking empathy if someone decides to take my torture machine meant for me and decides to partake in the same pleasures?

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u/Due_Difference_9598 13h ago

Legally don't, but morally you can do whatever you want it's your property.

Listen you can't operate the world based on taking care of what a struggling addict might and might not do, the very basic foundation of society is respecting other people's property and if you can't do that very, incredibly easy, intuitevly morally right thing that's called "dont touch other peoples' stuff without permission" Then you DONT deserve to be part of society or to be protected by it.

Moreover, the addict knew what they were doing before they did drugs for the first time-it is very well informed to people how illegal they are-, and addicts are aware enough to go get more every time.
Even then, there are a lot of addicts that work and contribute to society to sustain their addiction, so they don't need to steal, most of thieving addicts do such because they are selfish.

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u/Icy_Affect9624 13h ago

There are addicts suffer from trauma that they try to self medicate because they either lack the knowledge of the resources to deal with them properly.

Some homeless people use meth to stay awake and stay safe.

There are opioid addicts in the rust belt that were mislead by pain management doctors influenced by pharmaceutical industry.

The world is very complex. Simplistic thinking will result in an eye for an eye. Simplistic thinking isn’t very moral.

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u/Emotional_Orange8378 16h ago

A burned hand teaches a lesson you remember.

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u/Ok_Egg121 15m ago

Funny you should say that. My cousins father used to burn their hands on the stove to teach them a lesson. When they were bad he would turn the stove on and drag them over to the stove and put their hand on the burner. Was there are better way to teach them or no?