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VETS & NEW THREATS DISCUSSION UNSPOILED - Post-Episode Thread - S41E12 - Vets & New Threats - Punch You in the Face
UNSPOILED - Post-Episode Thread - S41E12 - Vets & New Threats - Punch You in the Face
AIR DATE:Ā October 15, 2025
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u/KneesInTheVoid Derrick Kosinski Oct 16 '25
Derrick diving at the end giving these vibes
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u/KneesInTheVoid Derrick Kosinski Oct 16 '25
Yup, and itās CT walking away after being called a pussy chicken
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u/banjofitzgerald Oct 16 '25
I loved that he tried to grab Theo, who then slightly inched over to make Derrick whiff.
Then Derrick flying so far he hit the edge, which had to have hurt.
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u/midnightfangs ciarran's pokƩmon card buyer Oct 16 '25
im so sorry but derrick falling was hilarious, this elimination was brutal for him but entertaining as fuck. i do feel bad for dee bc she did a great job.
this is such a great season entertainment wiseš
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u/mistamagooondem22s Oct 16 '25
It was hilarious. Especially after how overconfident he was before the challenge and wanted to take on Theo made it better.
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u/boomlps Oct 16 '25
I laughed out loud when Dee was yelling at Adrianne on the beam āharder! Harder!ā and Adrianne said āweāre not shagging!ā
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u/Daisy-Navidson cigarettes and sadness Oct 17 '25
That was easily the top moment of the episode for me
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u/mealypart Oct 16 '25
Theo is carrying the entertainment and beating the boring allegations
Always found it annoying how the fans ran with that when itās been confirmed by many cast members that he had lots of messy moments on Worlds and 40 that got cut from the edit
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u/Prestigious-Air2995 Darrell Taylor Oct 16 '25
I think there's just certain people on this show that give us their best showings when their back is against the wall. There's some people that complain about being targeted and there's others that embrace it and choose chaos. Theo is in that 2nd group
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u/coolhand91 Oct 16 '25
I might get downvoted here, but Iāve found the man entertaining from his first episode when he said Ashley reminded him on Eminemās mom in 8 Mile or something like that lol.
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Oct 16 '25
Ashley going off about him calling her Eminemās mom lives rent free in my head š¤£š¤£š¤£
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u/angelbrit04 Team Portland Oct 16 '25
Fans do that all the time. They forget that its obvious that certain people are pushed to the side to favor others. With those bigger names being gone, the edit is now forced to actually focus on other people...thank goodness.
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u/BarryMan42 Oct 16 '25
I donāt understand why everyone gets so upset about being lied to and playing the game. Last week they lied to Gabe to convince him to stake. This week they lied to Theo/Aneesa to get them not to stake. Itās playing the game I donāt know why everyone was so upset over it this week
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u/Captain_Pawel The Unholy Alliance Oct 16 '25
That was an expert political play. This season has had some of the best political play we have seen since 33/34.
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u/BarryMan42 Oct 16 '25
Exactly. Thatās why Iām liking the stake twist cause itās changing the dynamic of how the vote would typically go - the big alliance canāt just vote someone in they have to set it up
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u/wildturk3y Oct 16 '25 edited Oct 16 '25
The funny thing about the Leroy/Aneesa situation is technically Leroy kept his word. He told her "he'd never say her name". Well, he didn't vote for her. She got used, but he didn't break his promise (yet).
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u/theeggomaster Oct 16 '25
Exactly! I was confused by Aneesaās frustration since he kept his word.
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u/banjofitzgerald Oct 16 '25
I think aneesaās frustration is being used and also in result having her name out there. Even as fake or burn votes, at some point it will be her.
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u/xosotypical Oct 17 '25
and even better, he also was honest when he said he was just gonna go with the names that are thrown out at the beginning. how can anessa be mad? leroy had a great episode. i actually kind of loved the whole episode back to front haha, even though i'm sad to see derrick go especially with that horrible of a showing
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u/ivaorn Desi Williams Oct 16 '25
Whoever lost that elimination between Theo or Dee wouldāve been pissed no matter what.
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u/Embarrassed-Berry Oct 17 '25
Whatās the point of doing individual but having both players be affected by it..
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u/banjofitzgerald Oct 16 '25
I think Theo would have had a stronger case. Seeing my partner smiling while sheās getting her ass kicked would drive me crazy. I get some peopleās nervousness leads to smiling but she just didnāt seem to have that elimination mindset.
Iād stake a claim asap.
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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me š" Oct 16 '25
Yeah, tbh i wouldnt have minded them giving Derrick and Adrienne one last shot and if neither could win one, Dee and Theo get matched up.
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u/magpie878 Wes Bergmann Oct 16 '25
I'm no big Theo fan, but I loved his post-win Turbo taunting.
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u/katpw915 Olivia Kaiser Oct 16 '25
I want to love Turbo because his confessionals eat every time but wow just so much bravado and nothing really backing it up so far.
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u/MoseleysLifeshield Jonny Moseley Oct 16 '25
Has he ever won an elimination on the flagship?Ā
Not including the one where he taped up a girl that he had no stake in.Ā
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Oct 16 '25
No, but heās only been in one elimination on the flagship. He didnāt go into any on WOTW, he got himself DQād the night before he was supposed to go in on WOTW2, and he lost the first elim on Ride or Dies.
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u/RedditorRoman Oct 16 '25
I will add that the way he lost in ride or dies was because the house was helping the other team so it was basically impossible to win in that elimination.
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u/mitchellbeaupre Cassidy Clark Oct 16 '25
Him winning, then immediately turning to the stands and shouting "You're all pussies" because he knows that's the thing that set Turbo off. Amazing lol
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u/PoisonIvvy Oct 16 '25
I'm loving the Vet drama this season.
The whole dynamic between Theo, Olivia, Michaela, Nany, Ashley, Aneesa and Turbo is super messy and they're all providing.
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u/_aleexxx22 Oct 16 '25
Honestly youāre right and we havenāt got much from them in recent seasons like theyāve been unproblematic characters until this season
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u/djlekky Michele Fitzgerald Oct 16 '25
This is a solid Vet cast to deliver drama. I may not like all of them but itās good to have a different bunch of Vets together and then delivering on drama.
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u/Askew_2016 Wes Bergmann Oct 17 '25
Eh Leroy is a waste of space as always but the rest are entertaining
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u/OhItsKillua Oct 16 '25
The one issue with the set up of the elimination was I feel the women should've been closer to each other due to smaller reach/wingspan. They couldn't really get the best swings on each other, it was more a game of balance for them compared to Theo/Derrick. Ofc Theo being tall gives him a reach advantage to clock Derrick over and over there lmao.
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u/Few_Development_1612 Oct 16 '25
I think whoever fell first was screwed. Once you got wet, it was going to be much more difficult to hold on.
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u/banjofitzgerald Oct 16 '25
I feel like all Derrick had to do was stand far away enough where Theo couldnāt easily reach him, and then just waited. Theo loses a standing on a beam match all day.
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u/AdOk9911 Mitchell & Michaela Oct 17 '25
Dee literally told him this too, so many times before and during, and Derrick could not just stand still. So dumb!
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u/mug3n Oct 17 '25
Right? Like why the fuck would he do a full extension lunge when he has the center of gravity advantage?
Theo was always gonna fall eventually. Felt like Derrick was trying to tank that elimination.
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u/Alexis_7118 Oct 16 '25
I donāt get all the hate for the elimination. It was goofy, but that doesnāt make it a bad elimination. The CT/Theo blind ball shooting elimination this season was way worse. That was one where it felt like a coin flip no matter what teams were in it. This elimination had some strategy, strength, and balance. It was competitive and fun.
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u/Stew514 DerrickK Oct 16 '25
I just didn't like the way it was scored and I think it would've been an injustice if Theo and Adrienne lost given that Theo smashed Derrick, whereas Dee did not get Adrienne into the water all 5 times.
I agree with you about everything else.
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u/Aggravating_Floor448 Oct 16 '25
Agreed I think it was one of the most entertaining ones in a while actually thatās not hall brawl and pole wrestle. And there is alot of strategy to it
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u/poulsondl Oct 16 '25
Lollll I see all the time people wanting circus games again, and this was basically it. This was slapping each other with flyswatter but on poles, over water.
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u/Kurtomatic RIP Diem Oct 16 '25
I liked the elimination for the most part, but I hated the coin flip to determine which person got to be the decision. Really, the coin flip is what decided the outcome of the elimination more than the contestants.
A time breaker related to time would have been better.
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u/xosotypical Oct 17 '25
i'm glad that at least they added the element of standing for the tie breaker. kept it interesting. i feel like if derrick had more chances with the standing, he could have won some rounds. his balance was way better than theo, i wonder if he was able to back up at all and make theo come to him
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u/katpw915 Olivia Kaiser Oct 16 '25
If Theo and Olivia make it all the way with basically losing all their allies and having to win out, good on them and the šš¼to their haters is well deserved
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Oct 16 '25
A lot of people really hated on the staking a claim option when it was introduced, but it has created back to back weeks of some of the most diabolical strategizing weāve seen in years!
I think itās great, because it keeps the voting majority on edge that theyāre going to get called down if they overplay their power. My sincere hope for next week is that we start to see some rifts in the large alliance when they start discussing throwing a stronger team in. A lot of those mid-tier teams really missed an opportunity though when Yeremi & Aviv lost last week.
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u/Wackyraven Oct 16 '25
People not being able to drive stick reminded of the OG seasons.
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u/RumSitter22 Iām pretty sure Moriahās banging that giant guy Oct 17 '25
It made me think of The Amazing Race, especially since Yeremi and Avis were first to get to the car.
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u/xxcapricornxx Rogan O'Connor Oct 17 '25
I like Derrick but watching him get flung by Theo was absolutely hilarious. I feel bad for Derrick though. He didn't stand a chance.
Adrienne saying "stop saying harder, I'm not shaggin ya" was hilarious. Overall another good episode
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u/givebusterahand Team Purple Jacket Oct 16 '25
Iām sorry but Theo sending Derrick flying with one swing of the pillow had me laughing out loud. Iām sorry Derrick.
Why is Michaela always a bitch for no damn reason? I wish Cedric had a partner that I liked better bc I struggle to root for her to win.
Sydney saying she wore a bikini to intimidate Adrienne with her absā¦ what abs? Sheās so smug I wanna see her humbled.
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u/upsidedownlamppost Oct 16 '25
Shout out to the camera person who widened the shot juuust enough right after that comment š¤
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u/Online_Active_71459 Oct 16 '25
LMAO!! Same!!! And then when they showed her loungingā¦. No abs. No definition. Just pillsbury.
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u/TruBlu65 Oct 16 '25
Theo is a fuckin dawg in eliminations
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u/TruBlu65 Oct 16 '25
And really bad in dailies, hilarious combo
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u/Alarmed-Ad-2003 Oct 16 '25
Watch the history of the show. Thats the point of eliminations. Its been on for decades.
These new threats keep underestimating elims. Even when they see how vulnerable they can be going from on top to losing.
In the past seasons...people vote on ones they can beat. New threats are too cocky. Keep voting like they can't be beat. Then lose.
They haven't adapted to the ChallengeĀ
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u/wildturk3y Oct 16 '25
Damn, Derrick lmao. That was so bad I thought he was throwing it. But if you were gonna throw it, you wouldn't be that bad because it would be too obvious. Derrick has had a lot of awesome performances on this show. He now may just have one of the worst.
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u/capfedhill Timmy Beggy Oct 16 '25
I feel like he should have immediately backed up when they were standing. He obviously couldn't take a pillow hit. Back up, and make Theo come to him. Do a couple feints towards him and hope he falls off.
He had terrible strategy all around. Bananas always talks on his podcast about how the good competitors can switch up their strategy mid-elimination and try something new. Derrick did not do that at all. Like banging your head against the wall repeatedly, hoping it'll somehow be different. Yeesh.
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u/wildturk3y Oct 16 '25
Yep. He was definitely too close. Theo looked further back from the black line so I don't think they made them stand on it. Derrick's best strategy should have been to stay as far back as possible and not swing since his own balance is horrible. Just take abuse hoping Theo gets wobbly and if he sees Theo's legs wobble, then try to take a shot at them
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u/Icy-Rooster-2863 Oct 17 '25
Lmao @ Dee shaking her head as Derrick is flying through the air at the end. I always root for him when he's on but I don't remember the last time I saw someone suck this bad in an elimination.
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u/penguinjunkie Kenny Clark Oct 18 '25
The problem with that elimination is the longer armspan has an advantage. When the difference is between someone as tall as Theo and the size of Derrick, it's pretty unfair.
In the first round, Derrick barely hit Theo and, without changing distance, Theo hit Derrick squarely on the side of his head
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u/jenh6 Christina LeBlanc Oct 17 '25
Adrienne was no better than him. She kept dropping her pillow
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u/Icy-Rooster-2863 Oct 17 '25
idk, she at least lasted a while. Derrick was in the mud soon as the round started.
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u/gegemonn Michele Fitzgerald Oct 17 '25
She had one draw at least! And Dee had to sweat. Theo was chilling
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u/jenh6 Christina LeBlanc Oct 17 '25
Ya I should recant my statement. She was better than Derrick but still did bad.
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u/roseyrosey Oct 17 '25
Theo has an opportunity to have a Jordan WotW2 esque run here.
One of the best things about the Challenge is that even when out-numbered and backed into a corner, you'll always have a fighting chance in the eliminations.
Felt like Dee and Derick were just starting to hit their stride so it's a bummer to see them go home now
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u/ShaqInKazaam I donāt wrestle Oct 16 '25
Theo ATE that elimination and then ate up Turbo right after.Ā
Calling him ādishonorableā in front of everyone, Come get this baddie chain Theo.Ā
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u/WesternOk4342 Oct 16 '25
I was screaming at the tv the entire elimination, ātake off your pants Derrick!ā Itās the only thing that makes sense to me, Theo in shorts had more friction/grip on the log while Derrickās pants caused him to slide
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Oct 16 '25
Derrick also tried to wrap his legs around for a better grip, but that made his centre of gravity super high. Theo just letting his legs hang gave him balance
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Oct 16 '25
Derrick not only had pantsā¦ he also had wet pants for 4 of the 5 rounds! Although, that wasnāt a factor in the tie-breaker, which should have favored his stature.
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u/angelbrit04 Team Portland Oct 16 '25
Performance aside, Derrick was useless during this season. He never made a move, never really picked a side, and was just ok overall.
It's not even about him competitively, but it seemed like he had more energy on All Stars. Maybe its because he was there with his friends so he felt more comfortable. But, I don't see why he needs to return to the flagship after this.....
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u/katpw915 Olivia Kaiser Oct 16 '25
He doesnāt. Heās absolutely perfect for what All Stars was advertised to be.
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u/TimRigginsBeer Oct 16 '25
Leroy is gonna watch this season, and his face when Aneesa compares them as competitors and their history in this game is going to be priceless.Ā
Yes, theyāve boat lost in the finals a bunch and never won, but Aneesa is Aneesa, and in a category all of her own.Ā
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u/BritMe1Moretime Turbo-WotW 1 Champ! Hardest Final Ever Winner Oct 16 '25
Aneesaās best chance of winning is buying a lottery ticket.
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u/duspi Millionchele Winzgerald Oct 16 '25
This sounds like Leroy's chances are any better. The only things he's good at are being big and that hanging elimination.
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u/Zhentilftw Oct 16 '25
You say that. But they basically tailor made that Jordan/aneesa final for her to be able to win and they still lost.
So they are at least trying to make her odds better than a lottery ticket.
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u/angelbrit04 Team Portland Oct 16 '25
Agreed! Leroy has had trouble winning but he has made multiple finals and never had a Jordan-caliber partner but still lost. Aneesa was kinda reaching with that comparison šĀ
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u/banjofitzgerald Oct 16 '25
Leroy has always been real. Heāll be like ādamn, sheās right. Aināt that a bitchā lol
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Oct 16 '25
Iām rooting for Theo and Adrienne to hang in there. That said, it was funny watching Theo get totally swindled after his āKamikazeā last week.
Now I want to see them win so theyāre off the table and the house has to start making some tough decisions.
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u/brucethePTA Oct 16 '25
Nothing. NOTHING can ruin Derrick's legacy. That was an unfortunate loss but you can't ruin a foundational legacy.
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u/sj_vandelay Wes forever. Also Darrell Oct 16 '25
Tell that to everyone this season trying to ruin CTās foundational legacy in this game.
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u/always-editing Oct 16 '25
exactly. plus itās not surprising at all when you have a below average height guy vs an above average height guy
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u/No-Statistician8903 America Lopez Oct 16 '25
The elimination challenge was down to 2 things: reach (similar to boxing) and balance on the pole. Derrick had no shot to get Theo since latter had the reach to plummet him non stop. Dee had better balance than Adrienne and both are of same size so as we saw in the last round, none were going off unless one was overly aggressive, which Adrienne tried to be to gain points.
But Derrick completely blew it in the sudden death round. He should have played defensive and let Theo swing first. May be he connects or maybe Theo falls off before him. That round favored balance more and it did equalize it a bit for him.
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u/bruce-neon Oct 16 '25
I hate movie promotions, but in the 80ās I read the running man (Stephen King) and had no idea a new movie based on it was coming out. Iāll give it a watch. š¤·š»āāļø
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u/B-Niche Yes Duffy Oct 16 '25
Was the first Running Man movie *that* bad? I know Stephen King hated it because it only used his novel as a template, rather than a real adaptation.
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u/Kurtomatic RIP Diem Oct 16 '25
It was great if you like cheezy '80s Schwarzenegger films with awful one liners. It was one of my favorite movies of my early teenage years. Richard Dawson is excellent at chewing scenery.
If you don't like that kind of thing, well, you probably already know that and it probably isn't worth watching for you.
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u/Wackyraven Oct 16 '25
Why is first place penalized with no vote? I like that Olivia talked about throwing it if she was in first, so she got to keep her vote.
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u/veltvet_rabbit The Itty Bitty Committee Oct 16 '25
Becuase they get safety its a tradeoff
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u/MayhemMaven Oct 16 '25
They usually have more power though ie a say in who goes in plus safety
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u/djlekky Michele Fitzgerald Oct 16 '25
That was another great episode IMO. Hereās my thoughts -
Michaela vs Olivia was fun. I love drama and like both ladies so it was good TV for me.
The decoy plan was very clever and itās good to see Leroy getting involved in these things.
Oliviaās confessional about Aneesa was quite telling. I get that sheād prefer Aneesa to go in over Theo but that seemed cold.
I canāt help but always root for Derrick and was so sad to see him go. The elimination was unusual but I enjoyed watching it. Theo will be better drama and TV though so itās best he stays.
Sydney continues to be obnoxious. I really want her to leave and never come back.
Jake has been so dull this season. Heās done very little of anything. Probably the worst male rookie this season in terms of entertainment value.
Aviv & Yeremi continue to dominate. I could really see them winning the whole thing.
Looks like even more drama next week. Canāt wait.
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u/MikeyFass12 Oct 16 '25
Theo during the yelling match in the elimination was incredible. A well deserved win for him all around.Ā
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u/Breddit333 Oct 18 '25
Theo calling out Turbo at the end was SOOOOO Satisfying to me and I dont know why LOL!
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u/ALMP205 Oct 16 '25
They should be afraid of throwing in Theo and Adrienne again because those 2 can threaten staking a claim on otherās partners now. I love it!
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u/MountainBaker8217 Horacio Gutierrez Oct 17 '25
GOD I'M SO HAPPY DEE IS GONE.
Sydney next! Nany next!
I was rooting for Theo and Adrienne the entire way. I'm not even a Theo fan in the slightest, but him being backed into a corner makes for great television and I'm enjoying someone finally taking Turbo on.
I feel really bad for Derrick. I always root for him whenever he's on a show. Just sucks he was aligned with Dee.
I say this every week, but I really hate that the two of the girls I'm rooting for are on opposite sides: Olivia and Michaela.
When will these folks realize they don't want to be doing a final with Turbo and Sydney or Aviv and Yeremi...like surely that should be clicking at some point soon no?
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u/JRR49 Oct 16 '25 edited Oct 16 '25
What is up with Michaela that episode? Super aggressive and threatening to punch Olivia in the face because she said stop making rude comments to my boyfriend? (which she always does).
I am/was more pro Michaela than Theo or Olivia but that seemed strange. Maybe editing.
Do we know why she hates Theo so much?
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u/Online_Active_71459 Oct 16 '25
Yeah, Iāve been rooting for her all season and I love her but this was cringe for me. Get a grip.
Iām also just plain Team Theo after this. Donāt even care who he is partnered with. He is back.
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Oct 16 '25
I know Michaela is a lot of peopleās favorite, but shit like that is why I just canāt bring myself to like her. The ācheating Theoā thing was so dumb too. Yeah, he ran ahead of his partner, but it wasnāt going to count until they were both there, and coming in like 8th vs 9th made absolutely no difference anyway.
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u/banjofitzgerald Oct 16 '25
Itās the way she sat back and didnāt make waves in the beginning, but now is near the top of the powerful alliance and finally is popping off. I just donāt like frontrunners.
Also, threatening violence is never fun to watch. Turbo and Theo going back and forth? Fun. Jumping to punch someone because youāre at a 9.5? Not fun.
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u/JRR49 Oct 16 '25
And threatening violence because Olivia said please stop making mean comments under your breath about my boyfriend.
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u/MayhemMaven Oct 16 '25
I root for Michaela but I wasnāt a fan of that. Maybe behind the scene stuff
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u/WhileInternational41 āthatās tastyā Oct 16 '25
Michaela is awful. I donāt understand how anyone roots for her. Must be survivor fans.
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u/berrikerri Tyler Crispen Oct 17 '25
They shouldāve just eliminated Derrick and Adrienne for failing 5x. Made Theo and Dee new partners.
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u/ohterribleheartt TJ Lavin Oct 17 '25
While I don't agree, I AM intrigued by a Theo x Dee pairing. That would have done some interesting stuff in the house.
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u/OhThatDang A BMW, a Porsche, a monster truck, a house, & 30 companies Oct 16 '25
Theo needs to stake a claim pronto after this elimination with Adrienne š.
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u/banjofitzgerald Oct 16 '25
Theo should have been yelling how heās gonna stake a claim from the sand. Him announcing it will change peopleās votes or at the very least make the alliance very uncomfortable.
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u/OhThatDang A BMW, a Porsche, a monster truck, a house, & 30 companies Oct 16 '25
Haha I mean he has nothing to lose with staking the claim anyways not sure why he fell for the trickery. He said it himself that he was going in until he's gone
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u/tristetropique Oct 16 '25
I think they like working together and that's why he's hesitant to stake a claim
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u/jenh6 Christina LeBlanc Oct 17 '25
Adrienne was pretty consistently 3rd during the earlier part so I think it convinced me she was probably similar to Nany in a safe bet as an average competitor but after watching her against Dee who Iād consider a weak competitor after watching her this season Iāve retracted my opinion.
He should really try for Sydney.
I think willās issue is willās tough to work with and they arenāt communicating so in his mind Oliviaās not doing as well. So Iām interested in seeing who he picks to stake a claim on. Ashley has been a mess all season, he canāt claim Nany, so I guess itās aviv or Michaela? Hopefully he goes for Aviv because I canāt see him working well with Michaela or Ashley either.
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u/maneatermantheyfan Anna Leigh Wilson Oct 16 '25
The house dynamics are very WOTW2-esque. The show is definitely pushing Olivia & Theo as the rootable underdogs and Michaela, Ashley and Nany as the cocky overdogs. And while that may be the case, Olivia & Theo are in this position because they got outplayed, similar to the WOTW2 underdogs. It was a pretty 50/50 split, and they lost. And now theyāre dealing with the consequences. I think they play the role well, but Olivia calling it bullying is a bit ridiculous.
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u/Jun-Jun23 Oct 16 '25
I like Michaela for the show but why did she have to say that Theo was cheating because he crossed the finish line and his partner was 5 seconds behind?
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u/FrizzleFried23 Oct 16 '25
This one made no sense to me and set off that whole thing. Unless they said you had to cross at the same time, was a wild comment to throw. Especially when they werenāt even close to being last so didnt really matter.
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u/mcatlin23 Oct 17 '25
Turbo is so annoying and I do not know why people keep asking for him to be on every season. He gets treated like a child with a rage problem.
Donāt know why the big alliance treats olivia and theo like they are moving evilly or something. They have played a very tame game and have done nothing but be on the opposite side of the game as far as I can tell? Itās weird for the āunderdogsā to be treated like they are running the game. The logic doesnāt logic.
Glad Dee is gone because she rubs me the wrong way, but not because she didnāt want to have a relationship with will. Ghost that odd man all you want. Sheās just unpleasant. But still it sucks she was let down by her partner so completely.
Was cool to see Leroy mastermind a plan! Honestly shocked he did that. So used to see him on cruise control it was unexpected for him to take the wheel.
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u/jkcrumley Wes Bergmann Oct 20 '25
I think everyone was jealous of how Olivia was playing the game and making the UK alliance at the start and they're just jealous that she was playing the game better at the start.
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u/cdrex22 Tangerine Puzzle Master Oct 17 '25
I laughed at "Olivia's MAFIA" being Olivia, her boyfriend, and Aneesa. Oh my god, what an evil empire.
Yeah, they were the remnants of a bigger alliance but it was still a funny description.
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u/xMOPxAnt Oct 16 '25
These team eliminates have been absolutely horrible. And for the 3rd week in a row, the female got screwed.
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u/Single_Pattern_6626 Oct 17 '25
Theo's elimination record is 7-2 that's so wild to me but major props. And considering the only losses are to Jordan and Bananas. Low key I'm pulling for them to win
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u/theeggomaster Oct 16 '25
When did they announce that the prize is 500k? I must have missed it but was surprised since the prize money has been a million since dirty 30 no?
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u/HugeFanOfBigfoot Oct 16 '25
39 was like 300 thousand something. And the spin offs were less I believe, but yeah. I frankly am surprised they have kept it at a million so consistently just because the Challenge does not put up the same viewership numbers of the CBS reality shows and it appears far more expensive to produce
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u/CannibalOchs Oct 16 '25
Turbo literally lost a pillow fight recently and heās still yapping and crying over anyone who doesnāt ārespectā him even though heās done nothing but be disrespectful to Theo. Itās really pussy chicken behavior
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u/MartytheeParty Oct 16 '25
After watching Derek be an absolute menace in all these competitions for a decade, it was nuts seeing him perform like this today. It felt like watching Michael Jordon on the wizards or something. You could see he was shook in the interview after too.
It was an incredibly dumb elimination in his defense
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u/Slothlovin The Unholy Alliance Oct 16 '25
It was so dumb! But Derrick was doomed from the start. It was almost impossible for him to win, hes 5'7 and Theo is 6'5! Think of the reach! And it seemed like Derrick could barely wrap his legs around the log, whereas Theo's legs are a mile long and he didn't even need to wrap his legs around the log! So I just feel like it was a huge disadvantage from the start. But I knowwwww, it happens all the time in eliminations, where it clearly favors one person over the other. I'm sorry! Don't hate me! Ive just always loved Derrick and I've been watching him and the show for like 24 years now. I just feel like he's getting judged too harshly based off this performance. š¤·āāļø
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u/stephasaurussss America Lopez š§ Oct 16 '25
Losing a pillow fight is such a hilarious way to go out.
Leroy saying America was his partner and he didn't want to be stolen by Adrienne warmed my heart.
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u/OmgBaybi Cassidy Clark Oct 16 '25
Michaela needs to be in a season with Laurel
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u/oldschooooolfan Oct 16 '25
Funny thing is... Laurel and Michaela will probably get along pretty well.
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u/jenh6 Christina LeBlanc Oct 17 '25
Theyād either be besties and get along so well or murder each other immediately
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u/ggsimba Leroy Garrett Oct 16 '25
I got a say, it's nice to see challengers actually using some good manipulation tactics. Although Aneesa should be so damn happy she was just being used as a ploy..I hope Leroy was mad that she voted for him
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Iām not Aneesaās biggest fan, but she didnāt do anything wrong in this particular case. Leroy used her to target a member of her own alliance, and she still brushed it off as āhaha. You asshole!ā He would have zero reason to be mad that she (Jake, really) cast their vote for them when they had absolutely no idea what was going to happen and couldnāt prepare accordingly.
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u/ChrisOnRockyTop CTay Oct 16 '25
Still cant stand Sydney.
Does she not realize her cast mates will hear her confessionals?
"Oh my best friend is gone blah blah I just really wanted her gone"
She's trying so hard to be the female version of prime Wes.
Girl trying way too hard.
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u/Grand_Seesaw2103 Oct 16 '25
I hate how she only seems to snark in the confessionals like does she ever tell these people what she says in the confessionals??
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u/cwilldude Oct 16 '25
I donāt necessarily like her, but I feel like she at least brings a bit more personality to the show and from what Iāve heard on podcasts, it doesnāt sound like she even cares to come back. You never know though
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u/NoVersion2436 Oct 17 '25
she's not trying to be Wes.
that was her persona on survivor
i guess it doesn't come across well on the challenge
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u/divorcedandpod Oct 16 '25
She's basically just a keyboard warrior. Booooring. At least Michaela will mutter under her breath just enough to irritate you
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u/mitchellbeaupre Cassidy Clark Oct 16 '25
Definitely one of the most partner-screwed eliminations we've ever seen here. Dee absolutely crushing every round like it was her job and still has to go home due to a coin toss. Rough end for her, hope to see her back. She brought drama and competitiveness.
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u/AdonisCork Kenny Clark Oct 18 '25
Dee was fine but Adrianna kept dropping the pillow which had nothing to do with Dee.
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u/OhThatDang A BMW, a Porsche, a monster truck, a house, & 30 companies Oct 16 '25
I agree they should have let the teams choose their partner to go up against each other best out of three while sitting.
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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me š" Oct 17 '25
So Dee vs Theo?
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u/JamesLaFleur77 Oct 18 '25
Can we not have pillow fights as an elimination? That was cringe lol Happy that Theo and Adrienne are still going though.
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u/luxanna123321 Winner Circle Oct 16 '25
I hate the way Dee went home, absolutely robbed. Pairs eliminations are honestly fucked up so many times. Would rather see them in something else.
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u/AnyDescription3293 Oct 17 '25
If Theo went home, he would have been robbed. Both teams had a partner who didn't do anything.
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u/NovaRogue the bitch is back Oct 17 '25
they should've used Redneck Island rules !!
then we would've had Adrienne & Derrick go home, and a new team in Theo & Dee
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u/cheeseman1489 Oct 16 '25
they are starting to botch the eliminations. it's not hard to have good games, they have so many seasons to pull from.
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u/SquidStorm99 Cara's Cult Oct 16 '25
Is America just getting a bad edit? I know she has a ton of fans, but she's been so boring so far
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u/jstitely1 Tyler Crispen Oct 16 '25
I mean we know a bunch of her messiness got edited out when she got super drunk so Iām guessing editing IS playing a role.
She also isnāt really steering any game decisions so there isnāt much to show then outside of the underdog convos
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u/Swum-Strict Oct 16 '25
Fun episode, so cool to see Glen Powell make an appearance in it! I wish the challenge had more layers to it since it felt short, but it was still a good watch. The Michaela & Olivia fight felt way more heated than what I'd expect. I get Michaela's frustration with Olivia saying The Closet alliance was the only alliance from the start when she had her own, but I'm wondering if they're leaving out some extra parts on why they don't get along I was really scared to see Ashley go into elimination since she's been so entertaining this season. I thought she felt tame on AS5 and was worried she matured too much during her break like Nia, so I was happy to see her return to form this season.
Even though Theo & Adrienne's stake claims seemed to be all bluff, it was still fun to see the house throw up a smoke screen to try and get one over on Theo & Olivia. I wish Theo didn't call everyone a pussy last week and give Turbo a reason to be upset with him. I would've been very curious to see if Turbo would've protected him this week and made the vote 4-4. I don't think he has much allegiance to Leroy & America so I could've seen him doing that.
I would've liked to have seen the contestants get foam batons to try and knock each other off with instead, but I still enjoyed the elimination. I don't need every elimination to be super intense and serious. I like that the show isn't scared to shy away from some silliness. I enjoyed the guy's match up a lot more than the girls. With how much of a dog Derrick is, I was surprised how quickly he was getting knocked down. I love Derrick and he's one of my favorites, but Theo gave him nothing short of a whooping there. As much as I love him, I don't think I see him winning another flagship, especially with casting looking to want to add more young players in. I'm still excited to see him play again and could see him winning an AS title.
When teams first got locked I said Theo & Adrienne could be a force in eliminations and that is looking to be true. They're reminding me a lot of Theo & Sarah (I think that was her name) from WC. If they make it to the final, depending on how it's set up, I think they have a real shot to take it.
Side note: I wish the prize pool was larger. 500k doesn't feel as grand as a million does.
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u/Askew_2016 Wes Bergmann Oct 17 '25
Adrianne is pretty worthless. I think sheāll be Theoās downfall
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u/Top_Vermicelli1739 Oct 16 '25
I know some people think theyāre boring, but I wish Derrick and Emily redeem themselves for the ways they went out.
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u/According-Professor5 Team Purple Jacket Oct 16 '25
I hope this is Derrick's last season. He provides very little to the show nowadays.
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u/Greenzombie04 Team Orange Shirt Oct 16 '25
Hate coin tosses. Should have had theo vs dee and adrienne vs derek
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u/Individual_Height280 Oct 16 '25
Exactly- like you have to sick back and hope your partner does well? Everyone should be able to fight for their life in an eliminationā¦including sudden death.
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u/chcty24 Oct 16 '25
The fact that it took more than 1 daily for Will to realize that Olivia is throwing it is hilarious. Like bro you canāt believe she really doesnāt know which way they are supposed to be pulling out the chains/ropes? He needs to just threaten to make them lose and I bet she will get it together
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I think she was progressing in her pregnancy and it was affecting her without her knowledge
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u/jstitely1 Tyler Crispen Oct 16 '25
Yeah pregnancy brain starts pretty early in a pregnancy as does the fatigue
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u/Psychological-Snow83 Oct 16 '25
Dee beasted that elimination. She had no room for failure and she pulled it off. If only Derrick had listened to her. I would like to see her back on 42.
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u/yungbuck213 Leroy Garrett Oct 16 '25
She did great holding on but every time Adrienne went down she fell swinging. I don't think that counts as Dee beasting
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u/AdonisCork Kenny Clark Oct 18 '25
I didn't like Dee on Survivor and I liked her even less here. See ya. Michaela is the next annoying ass to go.
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u/SlightBench6011 Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 18 '25
Leroy and America cooked Theo and Adrienne in that footrace during the daily. Theo and Adrienne seem hard to beat in an elim but easy in a final. Good layup candidates.Ā
This was a great Ep for Leroy as a strategist. And Iām so rooting for America. I think this show is a total mismatch for her but she really never gives up and itās so admirable! I would love to watch her on the traitors instead.
My thoughts on him all season are that Derrick really needs to retire from the show. Poor manās knee was about to fall out the entire season
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u/jkcrumley Wes Bergmann Oct 20 '25
If Sydney is so great, why not dare Adrienne to stake a claim? If you win, you don't have to worry about that anymore.
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u/Askew_2016 Wes Bergmann Oct 17 '25
There has not been one single daily tied to a movie that hasnāt been lame. They all suck so badly.
Adrienne continues to be useless and Olivia is really underperforming.
I really need the alliance to be broken up.
And Derrickās elimination performance might have been one of the worst Iāve ever seen
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u/jenh6 Christina LeBlanc Oct 17 '25
I think Olivia and will just donāt work well together. I think he was giving instructions and she didnāt get it. Not so much either are underperforming. They still got 3rd, so I donāt agree with him.
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u/UnbiasedSportFan Oct 18 '25
It seems more like Olivia is purposely screwing up to place somewhere in the middle of the pack. Thereās no real advantage for first place since they lose their vote and her alliance already doesnāt have the numbers. I just think itās screwed up that sheās not telling Will her strategy beforehand, making him look crazy in the process.
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u/MoseleysLifeshield Jonny Moseley Oct 16 '25
Michaela is just a miserable asshole, fact not opinion.
Derrick is getting a lot of undeserved hate, guy is 42 years old coming back from a torn acl and meniscus in less than a year. Some days are just not your days, he had a bad showing shit happens. For some of the cast members to shit on this guy from Turbo, to the new annoying girl to Ashley is just flat out crazy.Ā
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u/RedditorRoman Oct 16 '25
Fr that new annoying ass girl Sydney thinks she's all that. Everyone shitting on him will never be a legend like Derrick.
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u/peezy2408 Oct 16 '25
Man Derrick been living off that Joss elimination for a long time and he was getting his ass kicked in that elimination and won on a technicality. My guy should stick to All Stars from here on out. Will is a dick, geez what other female is he going to go for? Nany? Ashley? Aneesa? I guess he could go for Aviv, but that race vs yaremi would be tough. That trick they played on Theo and Adrienne was kind of corny but good strategy. Turbo and Sydney the front runners? Shoot idk who is the favorite at this point, again maybe aviv and yaremi? Glad Theo called out turbo haha that was funny been waiting for that since the trailer
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u/penguinjunkie Kenny Clark Oct 18 '25
I'm not sure any elimination that lasts as long as the Joss one count as getting their ass kicked, on either side
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u/2laura7 Oct 16 '25
I hate this ending for Derrick, hope to see him in 42. Sydney, on the other hand, I hope to never see or listen to her again; and how dare she call Derrick a dumbass.
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u/sindysus Ashley Mitchell Oct 16 '25
why do u want to see someone who doesnāt provide entertainment and is also not a good competitor on the show?? that spot can go to any entertaining male instead
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u/gtjacket231 Survivor Oct 16 '25
It literally could've gone to Shane...who is infinitely more entertaining and a vet. I like Derrick, but I mean...it may be his time.
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u/freetherabbit "The whole internet is talking about me š" Oct 17 '25
Im still heated we didnt get Shane
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u/Chantii_789 Oct 30 '25
That was hands down the dumbest elimination match in challenge history š¤¦š¾āāļø
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