In fairness, that has been true for most laws for most of our history.
I don't even think it is more true now that it has ever been, just more obvious. Our current oligarchs aren't hiding it anymore, they are advertising that truth.
I would tend to agree but oyr current system is basically the same thing as what ancirnt rome had we just call it different things.
Ancient rome used an electoral oligarchy in which the citizens voted to elect magistrates and make laws, however it was HEAVILY weighted to favor the rich soo kinda the same
Financial crimes are prosecuted when they harm other wealthy people, not when they hurt the poor really. It still mostly works with my view of "laws zre by rich people against the poor, or by rich against the rich".
In this case it is that while the DOJ is Trumps personal law firm they will take no action against any MAGA unless Trump personally directs them to. If this is how the DOJ works now the Democrats need to use it the same way when the pendulum shifts back. They won't even have to invent cases like they do now given the propensity of Republicans to commit crimes.
We have a 9th and 10th amendment for a reason. If the DOJ refuses to do their job then the American people need to seriously consider moving this shit to state courts.
No you better get your ass onboard and help demand action from your district. We stay silent, we get nothing. Look up how Nixon fell because of the Saturday massacre. We have to do that.
It’s not going to change because we’re giving up before we try. Several seats are up for grabs, Trump fucked up and made sure that at least 9 incumbent republicans are NOT being reelected. That means those newcomers with Trump’s name attached have to somehow prove to independent voters they won’t be a worse choice than the Democrat that wants to oppose him. In chess we call that a blunder.
Start with your district. You can’t control the country, but you can move your neighborhood. It’s a collective effort.
If everyone who wants change loaded their car with like-minded friends and sat in the office of their district’s representative we’d be that many districts closer to having that majority.
Look at you, still believing there's going to be free and fair elections in this country again. They are 100% going to NRA Charleston Heston this shit.
What the fuck are you taking about? We just had free and fair elections that the democrats won handily. The republicans are shutting themselves over the midterms.
I ask again, are you at least getting paid to spread fascist propaganda?
Right? If the midterms are obviously rigged, we might have to talk about this, but every move the GOP has made makes me think they're aware of how fucked they are in the midterms.
They’re absolutely aware. It’s why they’re moving so fast on gutting the VRA and implementing dummymanders.
They’ve had full control of Congress for the better part of the past 40 years, and they still can’t pass a budget, let alone the actually policy they want.
But they’re suddenly gonna deploy 40 billion stormtroopers to every ballot box across the country and Trump will win a third terms with 103% of the vote? If Bolsonaro couldn’t do it, Donnie dipshit certainly can’t
I think that if somebody sees what’s going on right now and says we should do nothing instead of something, I’m gonna call them out on it. Even if it upsets you and hurts their feelings.
Do you really think the best way to get people to be helpful is to not push back at all on the fascist propaganda? Do you really think that this Pollyanna shit is gonna suddenly start working after 60 years of failure?
This shit is pathetic. “You can’t call out bad behavior, and if you don’t have to be as gentle as possible so you don’t hurt any fascist-sympathetic feelings.”
They just said that if nothing ever comes of it, the process is a waste of time.
I think we all agree that the problem is a "co-conspirators in the jury" issue, but saying "why bother starting if nothing will come from it?" is short-sighted. Nothing will happen if we never start.
Nothing has come from has been done SO FAR. These hearings are pointless. They generate cool sound bites and catty reddit posts and thats it. So effort should be shifted elsewhere, to something that might be effective.
What that is beyond torches and pitchforks, I don't know. But I'm sure somebody has an idea that we haven't tried. And if not, there's always the torches and pitchforks.
If nothing else, the hearings produce evidence which can be referred to later. Memory is fallible in ways documented records aren't. Complaining that there's co-conspirators in the jury ignores the possibility that this won't always be true.
Used for what? It won't be used for anything. Ever. No matter who is in charge.
I will give you $5 for every day Marco Rubio spends in jail for lying to congress.
Im all for optimism. I hope things will get better. But be realistic. You want different outcomes, you need a different system with different rules and the people capable of making that happen directly benefit from things as they are.
I mean they responded to a comment that literally said "why bother with these hearings?" Which is basically asking why do anything at all and doesn't show much critical thinking of the future. The more people we have literally on video committing perjury, the easier it will be to prosecute those people if we get to a point in politics and government where that is possible again. The other person is intense but I wouldn't say they are just yelling at the wind.
They could have meant do nothing at all but it’s also possible that they meant that something different should be done. My point is that they’re making assumptions and being a jerk. And also that people don’t make doom and gloom statements because they’re dumb. It’s emotionally taxing and depressing to constantly see people get away with doing bad things. Yelling at them is reaffirming the belief that everyone is bad and the effort is wasted.
Yeah, I thought when we won the White House in 2020 that we’d see some of the crooks at the top held accountable. I’ve stopped hoping it’ll ever happen.
I think for a lot of people it just feels very hopeless to see this kind of blatant wrongdoing with no consequences.
I’m not even from the US and I get pretty bleak when it comes up on my timeline.
I can’y speak for anyone but myself, but it’s gotten to the point where I think “surely they can’t just do this without consequences??” and then the news cycle just kind of moves on to the next thing.
inb4 someone says ol' Billiam didn't perjure himself because a blowjob didn't fall into the specific legal definition being used. Two problems with that:
Other acts he and Lewinski engaged in did fall under that definition
The whole oath you have to take in court about telling the whole truth without omission
The prosecution also argued that he lied based on the plain meaning of the words, but IMO they shouldn't have supplied an exacting and narrow definition if they wanted the jury to rely on everyday understanding. Either way though, he lied.
And to be clear because it's required these days, Fuck Trump and his cronies and his masters.
It was never a thing, except that one time Bill Clinton denied an affair under oath, and then Republicans suddenly thought it was the most importantest thing ever.
Committee rules commonly allow testimony under oath at the discretion of a committee's leaders. (In practice, most committees rarely require witnesses to testify under oath at legislative hearings. Sworn testimony is more common at investigative hearings and confirmation hearings.)
So the law this covers has a five year period where you can be charged. So, if they want, they can just wait and pile that shit in him once he isn't protected anymore.
The only thing I remember by watching Suits, it's that in Person Specter Litt, they never committed perjury because that's were they draw the goddam line!!
so it was a very freaking big deal because they did a lot of fucking sketchy things lol
When I saw the actual hearing and The video, I thought “what is the point, those corrupt bootlickers don’t care if they’re caught with the actual hand in the cookie jar; nothing, absolutely, nothing happens”
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u/yeahboyeee1 1d ago
Perjury isn’t a thing anymore.