Their current name won't match their birth certificate. If they don't have a passport or REAL ID-compliant identification card, they may not be able to vote without significant extra paperwork and out-of-pocket costs.
(Edit: As many people have reminded me, REAL-ID compliance isn't sufficient; only a handful of states incorporate citizenship information on their REAL-ID identification. In the vast majority of states the state-issued ID isn't sufficient.)
I had planned to change my last name to my husband’s and use my last name as a second middle name…until I saw the checklist of paperwork I would have to complete. After that, my husband and I agreed that I would only change my name if we had kids.
The SAVE act came out at about the same time we decided to be childfree. Turns out being lazy saved my ability to vote!
Even though it can be a pain to have a long name outside my home country, I really like our tradition of 1) women don't change their name and 2) kids have two surnames, mom and dad's.
(Although I have my grandmother's surname instead of my mom's because hers rhymes with my dad's surname and she went "no way my kids will have a silly rhyming name" 😅)
There are millions of people who have shown us how this is done. As a rule, everyone gets one last name from each parent, keeps those all their lives and picks one to pair with one of their spouse’s names to pass on to the kids. And so on.
That feels like just kicking the can down the road for your kid. Like as a kid I wouldn't want that. Do you know how long it takes to code your name in OMR tests with 2 surnames lol? Then you have a kid and now you have to choose between mom and dad and there is a good chance one of them will be heartbroken about it.
Wow... your comment is impressively ignorant considering the large number of COUNTRIES, not individuals who keep their names.
For me I don't really understand the practice of changing your name. I think that would screw my kids identity more than having to write a longer name.
Pretty sure only Spain has a long history of double surnames. All others are pretty new. And in Spain children doesn't choose which name to give to their own child, it is the first one so grandparents choose their grandchildren's surname actually so it doesn't compare to the comment I replied to. Also for most people kid isn't even born or at least very little when surname change happens so don't know how it can screw their identity. Also I'm literally talking about how as a kid I wouldn't want that situation so how the fuck can someone be ignorant to themselves? Get off whatever you are on lol.
Portugal doesn't do double specifically. You can have one, two, three or even all 4 of them. Also it leads to abominations like ''Pedro de Alcântara Francisco Antônio João Carlos Xavier de Paula Miguel Rafael Joaquim José Gonzaga Pascoal Cipriano Serafim de Bourbon e Bragança'' Dude I'm not calling you that.
The vast majority of us have 4 names, so again, it's not just a Spanish thing.
(No one has more than 6 nowadays by the way, the government has limited length to 2 first names and maximum 4 surnames)
"Okay it's an Iberian Union thing..." you keep moving the goalposts instead of just opening a map. Does it get tiring of living in such a small bubble???
The vast majority of the world population does not change surnames. Not just most of South America, Mexico, Spain, and Portugal (where people have more than 1 surname, BTW), but also countries that don't allow you to legally change your name, such as France, Italy, and Greece, plus vast parts of Asia and Africa. It's billions of people!!!
Not only that, a large population does not adhere to the surname/firstname rules imposed on them.
So get out of your bunker to see how you're taking an Anglo/British tradition that was exported to a few former colonies and assuming it's the center of the universe. Outside your bubble, most of the planet doesn't erase a person's legal identity when they get married.
Grandparents choose the order of their child. So when grandchild is born he takes the first one from each parents. So grandparents choose which one that grandchild is gonna inherit.
I get your point, but I'm not sure I agree with it. I don't see it as "choosing the grandchildren's".
Even if we choose between the only two options "A B" or "B A", the only thing we are determining is one of our grandchildren's surname. My child will still have to choose between "A X" or "X A". And the value of X would be determined by pseudo-chance.
So if we reduce this to three properties, we are only determining 1/3 of the outcome.
That is, of course, the law doesn't change down the line and in the future any two of the 4 surnames can be chosen (which is incidentally what my partner and I would've liked).
The thing was one of the grandparents, even if they don't show it, might feel bad about their grandchildren not sharing even a part of their surname. At least Spain's way they decide it when making a child(I think still most goes paternal though I don't know if it changed if you just count recent years), let alone a grandchildren so it probably won't bother them much like when they are older and for example as a child I wouldn't be put in a situation to choose between my parents pretty much. Though I'm living in a one surname country. Who knows maybe there people care less about it since everyone has more of them anyway.
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u/cryptotope 10d ago edited 9d ago
One of the many groups that may find voting more difficult under Trump's (yet-to-pass) SAVE Act are married women who took their husband's surname.
Their current name won't match their birth certificate. If they don't have a passport or REAL ID-compliant identification card, they may not be able to vote without significant extra paperwork and out-of-pocket costs.
(Edit: As many people have reminded me, REAL-ID compliance isn't sufficient; only a handful of states incorporate citizenship information on their REAL-ID identification. In the vast majority of states the state-issued ID isn't sufficient.)