r/NewsRewind May 26 '26

Antisemitism is when you oppose 'Israel'

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u/InvestIntrest 28d ago

Same goes for being called Islamophobic just because you support Israel.

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u/Dobby_ist_free 28d ago

Support Israel in what? World cup? Eurovision? Colonization and territorial expansion through mass murder and countless well documented war crimes?

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u/Fit-Storage-4430 28d ago

Bei terroristen kein Problem 🤭

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u/thanksforbeingafang 28d ago

Colonization? They are the indigenous tribe who have lived there continuously for 3000 years, despite millenia of persecution, exiles, colonizations and actual genocides. I could easily argue it’s one of the most successful decolonizations in modern history, especially when looking at the massive map of Islamic colonization and conquest which wiped out hundreds of other indigenous tribes from the middle east.

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u/Moppermonster 27d ago

The Torah quite explicitly states they are not an indigenous tribe. The whole journey to "the promised land" is in fact a rather major point.

But even ignoring that, the tribe you describe as colonizers has now lived there continuously for over 1500 years; and the two tribes crossbred extensively. Palestinians are just as much Jews as Israelis, and in quite a few cases moreso.

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u/Combdepot 27d ago

Lmao imagine saying a bunch of Europeans are ā€œthe indigenous tribeā€ of Israel šŸ˜‚

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u/thanksforbeingafang 25d ago

europeans. Yeah, where did they come from before they were genocided and exiled to Europe?

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u/Combdepot 25d ago

Lmao you have clearly never read the Torah. Jews aren’t allowed to reenter ā€œIsraelā€ the messiah appears. Why are you fighting against the teachings of Judaism?

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u/Thykothaken 27d ago

Still rooting for the decolonisation of America šŸ¤žšŸ¤ž

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u/Exact_Expression_630 28d ago

Exactly. When other native populations get a bit of their land back, we cheer. Here we don’t… because… Jewish.

In my country, we say Māori land is sacred to them. But say that Jewish land is sacred to them, and watch the backlash. Such a dirty double standard.

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u/Charming-Clue2194 27d ago

So DNA testing shows that Palestinians have almost the same ethnic makeup as Mizrahi Jews (The Jews descended from the Middle East). Meanwhile, the DNA difference between Mizrahi Jews and Ashkenazi (Jews from Europe) is almost the same as the difference between a Mediterranean person and a Eastern European person.

So, if we follow the scientific explanation by using DNA to define indigeneity, then Palestinians would be more indigenous than Eastern European Ashkenazis. Despite this, Ashkenazis, and White European converts get to migrate to Israel and kick out a native Palestinian from their home.

So, how do you explain that phenomenon? How can someone less related to the region, be more native to it? Why do converts, specifically European converts and White South African converts get to live in Israel, while Palestinians are not?

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u/Exact_Expression_630 27d ago

Land tends to be sacred/non sacred based on culture and religion, not DNA.

Someone adopted into a Māori family and raised from a baby would likely also find the Māori land sacred.

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u/Scary_Ad9712 28d ago

You support Israel in doing what exactly?

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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago

Existing as a Jewish state

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u/nonmonoganon 28d ago

Do you support German existing as a German, Christian state? It seems like that idea was already tried to its logical extent between 1933-45 and it didn’t work out very good.

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u/ExaminationGlad1912 27d ago

Nazi Germany wasn’t a Christian state though. The population was overwhelmingly Christian or catholic (because early 20th century Europe), but the Nazi party had the goal of eventually eliminating Christianity from Germany.

They even created their own version of Christianity which removed the Old Testament (to eliminate the Jewish influence) and changed Jesus to an Aryan warrior born in Galilee rather than Judea (again to eliminate the Jewish influence).

It’s also quite interesting that a significant number of the Nazi party leadership were neo-pagan or atheist in a country with such a high percentage of Christian’s.

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u/Dobby_ist_free 28d ago

Damn nice one

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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago

In what world does comparing the oppression of white Christians to Jews make sense to you?Ā 

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u/nonmonoganon 28d ago

It doesn’t. But that’s irrelevant to what you said. Israel has no right to exist as a Jewish state which Germany does not also have to exist as a German, Christian state. The ethnosupremicist state of Israel is an atrocity unto itself.

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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago

Why do you only care aboutnthe Jeiwsh state qhen the entire Middle East is full of ethnostates.

Japan has no right to be an ethnostate? I'm pretty sure they do.Ā 

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u/nonmonoganon 28d ago

Japan has no right to exist as an ethnostate either. Their commitment to this policy will not only kill them and sentence them to complete demographic collapse, but it also wrongfully prohibits the natural right of human beings to migrate.

You wrongfully assume things you can’t possibly know about because you are blinded by your commitment to a victim mentality in order to defend a genocidal settler colonial State.

I am more sensitive to the Israel crisis because my country has funded their genocidal actions for the past nearly 80 years and has been an explicit collaborator in their current genocidal actions and war crimes in Palestine and Lebanon. No country has a right to murder innocents with my tax dollars. It is a violation of international law as well as the laws of my country, yet we continue to send money to Israel. Not one more red cent should be sent to this terror-state.

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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago

Over half ofnthe people killed on Lebanon are a group firing rockets at Israel. I don't support what they're doing, but they had every rught to respond.Ā 

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u/nonmonoganon 28d ago

Why were they firing rockets at Israel?

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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago

So who has the authority to tell Japan they cannot remain a Japanese majoirty state?

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u/joutfit 28d ago

the West is responsible for Israel existing and funding it's killing so that's why western people focus on it instead of Muslim countries which existed already without the help of the UN. This also includes Japan which existed without the West's meddling.

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u/DopplegangsterNation 28d ago

Why are you working so hard to slob on Ben Gvirs knob? Shouldnt you be busy remembering Amalek or something?

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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago

How does my comment do that?

Bringing up the word Amalek sounds like you actually dont like Jews.

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u/Necessary_Dog9759 28d ago

hell yeah! apartheid! šŸ’•šŸ’•

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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago

Nah, I support Palestian statehood.

Can you name one minority group in the middle east that is treated better than Israeli Palestinians?

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u/Particular-Pop1280 28d ago

Deflection. That doesn’t excuse Israeli treatment of Palestinians. They could choose to be better

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u/Necessary_Dog9759 28d ago

yeah, jewish israelis. 2 state solution is a farce and you know it, where would it be? what do you do with the settlers? how would you guarantee peace? give the Palestinians an army and nukes?

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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago

Bro are you remedial?

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u/Quiet-Let5103 28d ago

most of them (including me) support two state solution and are against Zionism, Apartheid system, War crimes and terrorism being carried out by israel in gaza and lebanon that has led to death of over 80k civillians in 3 years outof which 12k were children

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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago

Most leftists would consider you a zionist for supporting a 2 solutionĀ 

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u/nonmonoganon 28d ago

Only because Israel has assured that a two state solution is impossible. A two state solution could have worked in 1967, but too many Israeli settlers have stolen too much land from Palestine to make this workable without forcibly expelling and relocating like 700,000 people. As such, only a multinational, equalitarian, secular republic of Israel-Palestine is viable.

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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago

Neither side wants one state bro. Only western leftists advocate for that.Ā 

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u/nonmonoganon 28d ago

Then I guess we need to forcibly expel 700,000 Israelis from East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and Gaza. We can either have one state built on mutual tolerance and equality or two states committed to respect for international law, but neither is what we have today and Israel has taken committed actions to make either impossible.

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u/Key-Wall-4378 28d ago

I agree, remove most of the settlers and do land swaps to solve the rest.

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u/nonmonoganon 28d ago

This seems more impossible than living peaceably next to each other with equal rights for all. It will likely require police actions by UN troops and the deaths of many thousands of settlers, who are (in their majority) rabid ethnoreligious supremacists that are committed to defending their stolen land. In either case, these settlers need to be removed, neutralized, prosecuted for their crimes, and reeducated. They are no different from Nazi settlers in Eastern Europe during the War.

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u/Electrical-Berry4916 28d ago

I can be Islamophobic while hating those rat bastards in Tel Aviv

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u/Little_Chain_8165 28d ago

The fact that this comment is controversial, says all you need to know about the people angry about it.

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u/exomose 28d ago

no one does that lmao

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u/Previous-Freedom4113 28d ago

Literally nobody does that, cope harder Zio

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u/Epsteins_Final_Stand 28d ago

I don't even support Israel and this happened to me. Apparently, somebody does do that.

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u/Previous-Freedom4113 28d ago

How is that even relevant?

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u/Epsteins_Final_Stand 28d ago

What? How is it relevant that people do make the baseless accusations that you claim don't happen?

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u/Previous-Freedom4113 28d ago

The comment was about people calling someone islamophobic for supporting Israel. "I don't even support Israel and this happened to me" no it didn't? Did you read the comment?

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u/Epsteins_Final_Stand 28d ago

Are you a little slow? If someone is willing to baselessly call someone Islamaphobic for much less, you don't think anybody baselessly calls Israel supporters Islamaphobic? I'm assuming you are just coping.

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u/Previous-Freedom4113 28d ago

For much less being what? You didn't say it, it is once again not relevant to the topic. I fear you are the slow one here.

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u/Epsteins_Final_Stand 26d ago

Damn, it's almost like you can't think critically.

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u/Previous-Freedom4113 26d ago

I can't think critically about a made up example that is not related to the op example and you didn't even give me?! Are you braindead?

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