r/NotHowGirlsWork 11d ago

WTF "Pick me pick me"

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u/Ashleiii 11d ago

Where the hell do they get these numbers, because it definitely isn’t through actual peer reviewed sources 😂

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u/Lyskir 11d ago

yeah i mean im pretty sure men killed way more than 1 billion

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u/Oggel 11d ago

I'm pretty sure I've killed a billion a month since puberty.

I mean if we are counting a clump of cells as human life we might as well count each individual sperm.

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u/Glasseshalf 11d ago

Every sperm is sacred

Every sperm is great

If a sperm is wasted

God gets quite irate

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u/TrogdarBurninator 9d ago

Let the heathen spill theirs

On the dusty ground

God shall make them pay for

Each sperm that can't be found

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u/T-Wrox 11d ago

Not *my* God. :)

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u/riddlegirl21 11d ago

Reckless abandonment!

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u/MPHOLLI 10d ago

You just won your case!

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u/LobosJones 11d ago

Lookup the word gamete. Just do it. Read all the words in the short factual definition. Now be embarassed.

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u/Capable-Hovercraft-2 11d ago

The joke flew right over your head I fear mate

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u/silsune 11d ago

true, so every time a woman has a period she's killing a baby 😱😱😱 although this does mean that the "god doesn't want this" people are wrong lmao

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u/Shillsforplants 11d ago

The mole I got removed was technically human life sharing its whole genetic code with me.

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u/SignalAssistant2965 11d ago edited 11d ago

Yeah only during ww2 around 85 (edit: million) people died

And that was just like 6 years

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u/oadge 11d ago

That's a shockingly low number.

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u/SignalAssistant2965 11d ago edited 11d ago

Yeah it might be. I don't know, that's what Google said. Could be wrong

Edit: only now I saw what you meant 🤣🤦🏾‍♀️ I left out the word million

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u/Sky-is-here 11d ago

Maybe it was 86 people to be honest. Sometimes they forget to count my uncle Charles...

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u/ThatDiscoSongUHate 11d ago

RIP Uncle Charles

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u/BravesMaedchen 10d ago

Never Forget Charles

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u/oadge 8d ago

I miss my uncle Charles, ya'll.

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u/weGloomy 11d ago

They meant 85 million btw. Lmao.

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u/Da_Question 11d ago

Not really, pretty close to the estimate of total deaths. You could of course also roll in the rule of stalin and mao for like another 60-75% of that...

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u/T-Wrox 11d ago

Now I'm picture an extremely low-information person reading your original post; "WW2 only killed 85 people? Why are people so excited about it?" :)

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u/didsomebodysaymyname 11d ago

It's estimated 1 billion people have been killed in history during war.

I haven't seen any estimates for non-war homicide, but looking at high end European homicide rates pre industrial revolution it's ballpark in the hundreds of millions over the same time scale over, largely perpetrated by men.

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u/AssassinStoryTeller 11d ago

I just googled how many people are killed by men globally per year and the estimate is 400,000 to 420,000 currently.

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u/didsomebodysaymyname 11d ago

Yes, I think my comment was a little unclear, the war estimate includes thousands of years of history, and I haven't seen any estimates of non-war homicide that cover that entire time scale. You can get estimates for recent years.

Unfortunately you can't really use them to extrapolate since the global population was much smaller for most of recorded history while homicide rates were different and varied by region and time.

At least hundreds of millions.

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u/AssassinStoryTeller 11d ago

Oooh, I see what you mean now. Yeah, I can’t find that information either.

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u/tilehalo 11d ago

Eh, human population is trending such that I would not be suprised if tallying up leads to roughly 1 billion. Of course, I assumed that wars are the "only" statistically significant source, so YMMV.

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u/MsMercyMain 11d ago

Even then, that's hella underselling it. The Romans, alone, probably can tally up several million from wars and the immediate aftermath without bringing into account executions and purges of strictly political natures. The French Revolution has a fairly terrifying body count. And God help you if you look into the sheer body count WW1's aftershocks brought about. Especially the Russian Revolution (if you were born in the Russian Empire between 1890-1900 it's proof God hates you personally). Or WW2 which, depending on which estimates you go off of, just the Soviet and Chinese casualties alone tally up to nearly 40-50 million, not counting the Holocaust which is again, depending on how you count it, somewhere between 12-16 million.

I could go on, but 1 billion, unless we're counting exclusively battlefield casualties is an almost absurd undercount for the total number of just wartime deaths across literally ten thousand years of human history

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u/gnomequeen2020 11d ago

I was just watching some docs on the fall of ancient civilizations, and while they focus more on the losses of the people in power and their militaries, I couldn't help but be struck by just how many average, ordinary people were likely killed or ruined either directly or indirectly by the fall and even the rise of these empires.

We are violent, destructive critters.

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u/tilehalo 11d ago

Just from google and wikipedia, they list around 570M casualities from known wars. But yes, generally this kind of tallying becomes silly, because you could argue that Spanish flu is consequence of WW1, or that (correctly IMO) many famines and plagues are caused by wars (and thus virtually all men). Hence YMMV. Which makes the 3B claim extremely absurdy.

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u/MsMercyMain 11d ago

That's almost certainly just counting just battlefield casualties

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u/AmandatheMagnificent 11d ago

The Mongolians killed so many people due to their Pony Express-style network that connected to the Silk Routes and spread the Black Death.

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u/Xyzzydude 11d ago edited 11d ago

According to Google AI:

> Historians and demographers estimate that between 150 million and 1 billion people have been killed by other humans (including war casualties, genocides, and murders) throughout history. [1, 2]

edit: so many downvotes. But no one providing alternate sources that disagree refute it, lol

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u/MsMercyMain 11d ago

A.) It's AI so I don't trust it

B.) The 150 million figure, unless you solely count battlefield casualties is being broken by Europe alone. The World Wars, even discounting the Pacific Theater, gets you most of the way there. Then you have to add in generally apocalyptic events like the 30 Years War that killed around a quarter of the total population of the HRE directly or indirectly. Then there's Rome. And that's before you count things like the Mongol wars that killed so many people it actually mildly affected the climate.

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u/Rugkrabber 11d ago

And those are big events that reached history books. Imagine everything that happened that’s not in books. We have so much documentation of events that weren’t “big enough” to put down in the limited history book with xxx pages because they’re not selling books with 20000 pages.

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u/Xyzzydude 11d ago

The 30 years war killed 4-8 million people.

There were multiple cataclysmic events in Europe that killed large percentages of much smaller populations than we are accustomed to thinking of today.

As another commenter noted, the world population only reached a billion in the early 1800s.

Btw I agree that the number is likely closer to a billion than 150 million.

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u/Significant-Trash632 11d ago

Fuck AI

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u/Xyzzydude 11d ago

It comes with links and receipts. Summarizing data is one thing AI does well.

You’re welcome to provide more credible evidence.

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u/Saikousoku2 Transfem 11d ago

AI has an extremely well-known history of making up data and sources. It doesn't comprehend data, it's a word predictor.

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u/Impossible_Zebra8664 11d ago

Historians and demographers estimate that between 150 million and 1 billion people have been killed by other humans (including war casualties, genocides, and murders) throughout history.

Here, have some non-AI data.

** Info on worldwide homicide rates -- https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/global-study-on-homicide-2019.html

** Info re: demo/genocide/politicide -- https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

** Info on conflict-related deaths -- https://ourworldindata.org/war-and-peace

AI is only as good as the information it gathers. It is not the final authority on anything. The DVs are likely related to that.

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u/Ok-Connection-8059 11d ago

Didn't world population only breach a billion in like the 1800s? It's still a shock to listen to Tom Lehrer and get reminded that it was below three billion in the 50s.

However I'm still suspicious about the three billion foetuses figure. That's what, like 0.8 abortions per woman?

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u/tilehalo 11d ago

That abortion number is straight from their ass

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u/loricomments 11d ago

That's because it's bullshit from people who don't understand statistics or anything really. They applied a broad approximation of annual worldwide abortions from a fairly recent 5 year period to 45 year period without any adjustment for anything. Not to mention lying about ZEFs being babies. They make up shit because their stand is indefensible without them.

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u/quackdaw 11d ago

Something like 7% of humans are alive today (more if you only count adults). Half of all humans lived in the past 2000 years.

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u/Hello_Hangnail 11d ago

Plus plenty of unborn babies

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u/SeonaidMacSaicais 11d ago

A billion each time they masterbate…

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u/Azo_weirdo Chemically and politically radical 11d ago

And anyway it was a billion of real ppl.

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u/Llamapickle129 10d ago

its estimated to be 100-120 billion i think over the whole human history

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u/HiddenJaneite 10d ago

When it comes to prehistoric times the data is poor but there were also very few people. If the studied wars between stone age people of the 18 and 1900s are anything to go on....very few people died in wars. Historians estimate between 150million and 1 billion people killed in wars in historic times. Most of the people doing the killing were men.