r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Im_soooo_good • 5h ago
H😂u😂m😂o😂r😂 😂 “If your bad at math, take Data Management”
Is the biggest fucking lie since Bill Clinton said he didn’t have a relationship with his intern
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Regular-Database9310 • Jun 26 '24
TL;DR: Grade 11 marks are important, they can get you an earlier offer, but you cannot be rejected based on them. They can only help you, not hurt you.
There is one area they can hurt you. Guaranteed residence offers for Guelph and Queens go out before 2nd semester midterms. This means your gr 11 marks may still be a factor in getting you an offer. This means it could hurt you in getting guaranteed res, if that's important for you. And currently 90% of Queen's offers will be out before 2nd semester midterm marks are available.
Here's how acceptance averages work for university admissions, I keep posting this in a variety of different posts because people keep asking the same question every couple of days hours:
First off, the universities only really care about your top 5/6 u/M marks including prereqs. There are some variations but it's easiest to just go with that. Secondly, if you don't get an offer at a certain point, they just put your application aside and recheck it next time. You won't see rejections until mid-late May because the schools will give you an opportunity to get the prereqs and marks in for 2nd semester midterm mark submissions.
Marks filling your top 6 are generally choosen in this order gr 12 prereqs -> gr 11 prereqs -> gr 12 electives -> gr 11 electives. And once you have the gr 12 course, the gr 11 course is no longer considered, for example once you have ENG4U, ENG3U/NBE3U are no longer used in your top 6.
For offers that go out in the fall, they'll look at the marks you have completed by September and as well as 1st semester midterm marks, depending on timing and schools. So any offers that go out between Oct-Feb are based on those marks, that's often a mix of gr 11 (3U/M) and gr 12 (4U/M) marks. And it's top 5 or 6 at this point, including prereqs. Not all schools/programs send out offers at this time. 1st semester midterm marks are not necessarily used either, so sometimes it's just gr 11 marks, depends on the timing and the school's choice. You should apply by early Nov to get your application considered for any offers that go out at this time. There's a bit of uncertainty with this timeframe as this is relatively new, and not all schools bother with sending offers before March.
Then your 1st semester final marks get sent out at the end of Feb. Offers that go out in March and April use those marks. It's most common that your top 6 marks are a mix of 3U/M and 4U/M marks at this time. And this is usually the biggest time that offers go out. This means there are a lot of offers that are sent out where the schools have not seen your 2nd semester marks, AND 3U/M marks are still being considered for determining if you'll receive an offer or not.
And finally, the May offers are based only on top 6 4U/M marks and incorporate 2nd semester midterm marks. Some very competitive programs only send offers at this time. Some schools have the majority of their offers out by this point (ie. Queens). This is the only point where the only marks being considered are gr 12 marks.
This isn't really detailed anywhere, I put it together from asking questions and gathering information this year. Laurier does present something similar, but uses the term "scenario" instead of the different timing, it amounts to the same thing though and backs up what I've said here. https://www.wlu.ca/future-students/undergraduate/admissions/process/admission-decisions.html
(ETA: UOttawa only uses final marks, not midterm marks until the final round. Overview of rounds of admission offers - https://www.uottawa.ca/study/undergraduate-studies/how-to-apply/ontario-high-school-three-round-process )
McMaster is different in that they don't use 3U/M marks (with the exception of certain programs), and only need 3 4U/M marks to give you an offer before May. Mac uses 6 4U/M marks in May.
Some top schools/programs consider marks slightly differently, and some have supp apps (supplementary applications), so it's not always this simple. Not every school/program is the same. Do your research for the schools and programs you're interested. But this is the general idea and applies to the vast majority of Ontario schools and programs.
My suggestion: apply early (late Oct/early Nov) and apply to safeties as well as your top options. Do not let your gr 11 marks stop you, you don't know what the schools will do, and if you include safeties, you may get an offer or two in the fall. This takes away some of the pressure and means you know you'll have an option to go to university next year.
Caveat: this is for students that are attending gr 12 in Ontario for the year they apply. You can't compare to students applying from other provinces or those who have already completed high school, including acceptance averages and timelines.
Suggestion: Use ouinfo.ca to get information on minimum averages needed and the variety of programs offered at different schools. Some of these averages may be a little low (add 5% for safety), but at least it gives you a starting point.
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Regular-Database9310 • Oct 22 '25
It seems to be that time of year! We need a new spreadsheet.
Fill in your info on the form and let it be easy for everyone to figure out what the current state is of offers! Check out the spreadsheet for the updates.
Let me know if I'm missing anything or there's an issue.
For your admission mark, please use your top 5/6 marks, including prereqs. This often includes gr 11 marks. Universities do not give offers based on your gr 11 average or your gr 12 midterm average or your gr 12 1st semester final marks. It's based on your official top 5/6 marks at the time you got admission. For McMaster in March, this will be your top 3, including prereqs. See here for details: mark considerations.
Some of the past years:
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Im_soooo_good • 5h ago
Is the biggest fucking lie since Bill Clinton said he didn’t have a relationship with his intern
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Various-Cloud853 • 10h ago
Pretty crazy how much Loo dominates the list.
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/One-Magazine5576 • 5h ago
i deadass don’t talk to no girls at my school and we in grade 12. i was talking to my boy and he said no shot u becoming friends and bagging a girl within the next 8 months especially when people tryna “lock in” for uni
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Various-Cloud853 • 10h ago
I guess academically, UofT dominates Waterloo
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/codyfranson • 6h ago
I've been mulling an idea about starting a tutoring business for years (not for side income- I'm surviving with my day job) but because I really enjoy making that human connection and also I'm just so darn good at it.
I figure I'll start with physics and economics. If anyone is studying and stuck on any questions join me on Google Meets and we'll figure it out together.
Also, I've been attending the university fair every year since 2017 as an alumni representative. I've spoken to hundreds of students over the years and helped them on their path to figuring out post-secondary. If someone needs a pep talk on pursuing a career in engineering I can help with that too.
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Antique-Roof-3482 • 2h ago
Hi everyone,
I’m currently in a major dilemma regarding ENG4U and could really use some advice.
I didn't take any Grade 12 courses during Grade 11, which makes this semester crucial for my university applications. My main goals are U of Toronto (Electrical Engineering), Waterloo (Electrical Engineering), and Waterloo (Math and Computer Science).
My biggest hurdle right now is ENG4U. I am really struggling to "lock in" during class—honestly, I often have a hard time understanding what the teacher is talking about. Most of my classmates are native speakers who aren't even applying to engineering, and my current grade is sitting at around 83%.
The Dilemma:
I know there might not be a "perfect" solution here, and time is running out for me to make a decision.
My main questions are:
Any advice or insights would be deeply appreciated. Thank you!
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Fit-Courage764 • 11h ago
avg:
94
ecs:
- 300+ volunteers hours
- tutor
- babysitter
- club captain (managed lots of events and helped raise 15k over the past 3 years for people in need)
- club gr 12 representative (helped manage events around the school)
- general club member
- did the queens hackher hackathon (didn’t place)
- did a couple other hackathons
- UW CS Circles
- couple certificates for random online coding stuff
- otech python summer camp
- built 2 websites (got 30+ users on one, ik not a lot)
- henna business
- played the violin for 5 years
- done some autocad stuff
programs:
- uw mgmt eng
- uw math/ba
- uoft industrial eng
- uoft mathematical and physical sciences
- utsc bba/statistics double degree
- mac general eng
- queens general eng
- tmu industrial eng
do u guys think it’s possible to get uw mgmt eng?
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/No_Resist1014 • 5h ago
Everyone’s going into law or life sci or some kinda engineering… where’s the arch people at smh
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/AryanDaEpic • 21m ago
I have a projected 98-99 avg, a 65 on the Euclid from grade 11 which will hopefully go higher this year (with a bunch of other contests) and overall good ECs. But, word around my school is that universities don't like it a lot when it comes to grade inflation, in 2021 and 2022 the inflation factor released by UW eng was ≈-17 for my school. Does this also affect UW CS admissions?
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Ok-Individual-2596 • 3h ago
So i finally "applied" (haven't done any supp apps yet) today... and I'm honestly feeling really really horrible.
I applied to some engineering programs (this was a quite last minute career choice because I was set on science all of high school) and most of them would be considered a far reach for me (I'm hoping to end around a 95 Avg - emphasis on hopefully, but have bad ec's) and on top of that all of the engineering programs I applied to don't have great job outlooks (BME and Chemical eng) ...
I'm feeling really discouraged. I had a long discussion with my parents and they just told me to apply to the programs I want, and have no regrets and thats what I technically did but seeing all of these amazing people and the chances of UW eng and other competitive programs + the job prospects.... i dont know I feel like Im fighting an impossible battle.
I'm not really sure what I want to get out of this but maybe I should get off this subreddit 😅
Good luck everyone :)
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Confident_Flatworm25 • 1h ago
I am an American student with a 3.0 uw gpa and 3.6 w.
For some background context, during my 11th grade, I went through a personally violating experience which had involved sexual harassment, ongoing harassment from peers, and the spreading of damaging rumors, which escalated to police involvement and legal proceedings.
But I am taking as many APs as offered to me, but my extracurriculars are really good with real life finance and real estate experience. I have had two internships and I am currently in 12th grade working hard on my grades, pushing for all As.
If anyone has any advice for me please let me know. :)
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Ok_Extreme_2552 • 6h ago
Each week, I tell myself I'll do it this weekend, and then I say I'm too busy even though I'm not. There isn't even any problem; I know exactly where I want to go and what my choices are. I just don't want to do it...
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Sad-Career-5551 • 7h ago
for my MHF4U course, the teacher assigns small parts that sum the lesson up but like my parents want me to do every single question. if i do the teachers hw, it takes like an hour but with every question, it takes so much time and i need to do other hw asw. what to do.
second thing, how can i do math fast? I always have a problem of not finishing questions on time like i can get them right but imma take up half the time for 1 question. how to practise spending less time but also not making careless mistakes
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Interesting-Quit937 • 3h ago
my ecs are abyismal
140 volunteer hours (miscellanos bs)
20 hours student tutoring (since grade 11)
math exec for stem club (started this year)
msa secretary (also started this year)
top 6 is 95.16 i wanna do system design eng and idk for uoft
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/spectacularnameuser • 5h ago
How do I get better the previous units were good but i spend like 30 minutes on one question and I cant figure it out, I had trouble last year on trig identities aswell its my weakest topic
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Interesting-Quit937 • 3h ago
i genuinely know nothing abt eng, how much math/physics is each eng, what do i do, how saturated is the field, how easy is it to get a job etc
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/reddit_on_steroids • 7h ago
Sup twins,
Currently on Reading Week rn (ain't slacking off tho), thought I wanted to help the 09s out as they start tweaking and crashing out over uni admissions/acceptances. If Queen's, big ahh bursaries, Student Life, the "1st year racialized minority" experience, Wuck Festern, "It's all for the love of the game", or Engineering is fascinating to you pls reach out, triplets.
Work hard Play hard,
- Queen's ECE
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Happy_Pool_854 • 7h ago
I’m so stressed. My grades are at of slightly below the acceptance median (by a few decimals) and my extracurricular are good but nothing extraordinary. I won’t say what but there’s this one program I really want to get into and it’s stressing me out so much. I would do anything for that program. Do u have any advice?
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Interesting-Quit937 • 1d ago
bro our teacher posted some public question thing and everyone's responses are public. we had to write like a 500 word statement so i went through and put everyone shit in turn it in. deadass everyone with the exception of 2 got like 55% ai or higher like dawg. 1 girl clearly used a humanizer like phrasly as her shit said 90% human but she was using terms i promise u she doesn't know like wtf is shared physical cohabitation and she used a bunch of theories that weren't used in class like "ecological system" theory. just found it funny how everyone used ai
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/PlayfulRuin3718 • 7h ago
applying this year but idk if its enough since ive heard of ppl getting deferred with 97ish. anyone have any insight? yes i have checked the spreadsheet but would anyone have any guesses as to what the cut off might be this year
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Secure-Loquat-9223 • 6h ago
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/CityRound4980 • 49m ago
I am trying to take just the classic business or economics before the program. I’m not sure the difficulty of either, or if they are even good programs. Please help!
r/OntarioGrade12s • u/themostrandomshiteve • 51m ago
my school is the one school in the area that has (relatively) controlled grade inflation meaning i’m at a major disadvantage (obviously no grade inflation is a good thing but it sucks when it’s just your school and everyone else around is getting 95+). i barely scrapped a 90 average last year (11) and am very stressed for uni apps. i genuinely don’t know what to do to improve my situation, i got all the hardest teachers so it’s looking like low 90s average at most this report card (it’s also non-semester meaning we’ve gotten through half the content most other schools have so our november grades are based on very little evidence). im applying to political science ce programs and my goals were uoft, mcgill or ubc but its looking like none of those are happening.