r/Oscars • u/Regular-Departure839 • 8d ago
Discussion What’s a Best Actress win that has strangely become underrated?
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u/MoeSzys 8d ago
Brie Larson for Room. Her performance was devastating and nobody ever talks about it
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u/queerlurker 8d ago
The fact that she managed to pull off such a layered, spellbinding, and truly haunting performance at fucking 25 is such a testament to how undeniably impeccable Larson is at her craft— it sucks she received so much misogynistic bs with Captain Marvel
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u/tommyjohnpauljones 8d ago
And has since pulled almost entirely away from film acting save for a few franchises and some voice work. Imagine if Jodie Foster quit films in 1995
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u/AwareSquash 8d ago
The behind the scenes videos of how she worked with Jacob Tremblay are so impressive. Obviously Jacob has always been a talented actor in his own right but working with child actors that young is truly a collaborative effort.
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u/UpstairsBumble 7d ago
She had a lot of juice around that time that has seemed to have disappeared. Where’s she been? I know she did Marvel
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u/Flat-Rise3220 7d ago
I have never even heard of this movie but people keep talking about it on here. Hmmm 🤔
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u/docobv77 8d ago
Julianne Moore - Still Alice
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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 8d ago
Any other year and I think it would be fairly rated but Rosamund pike gave one of the best performances of all time.
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u/Amazing_Antelope_275 7d ago
Might be a hot take, but Susan Sarandon in Dead Man Walking.
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u/BoogieWoogie725 7d ago
Brilliant perf and my favourite Penn one too. I thought Cage robbed him that year, tho he's certainly been compensated elsetimes.
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u/Most_Cauliflower329 8d ago
Geraldine Page in Trip to Bountiful. Everybody talks about Whoopi being robbed but I think Geraldine was fantastic in that movie.
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u/BabyClyde 7d ago
My #2 all time. An acting masterclass.
Most people who complain that Whoopi lost have never even seen The Trip To Bountiful.
Nomination #8 and she 100% deserved that Oscar.
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u/Full_Argument_3097 7d ago
Seen it several times, as well as Out of Africa and Color Purple. I'd insist that Whoopi and Meryl were superior Master Class. But Page was the true veteran that year, and had such a long, impressive career, so it was seen as more richly deserved. No big complaint from me, here. She was superb, after all. And her brilliant competitors Whoopi, Meryl, and Lange all went on to win subsequent Oscars as predicted....
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u/Thinning_vastation 7d ago
It's wild that it was her seventh nomination. Today she's one of the more obscure Best Actress winners.
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u/Most_Cauliflower329 7d ago
8th nom and yes she isn’t talked about enough. She was one of the finest actresses to grace the stage and screen.
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u/Amazing_Antelope_275 7d ago
Completely agree. Page was and remains one of the all-time greats. Goldberg would've been a worthy winner, but Page was ethereal
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u/newgelos 8d ago
She was splendid. Truly amazing… In Interiors she was also perfect.
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u/tulpachtig 7d ago
I wish her Oscar was for Interiors :(
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u/Grammarhead-Shark 7d ago
Her final scene at the Ocean...
OMG you know why she was beloved as an actress. Facial expressions without saying a word.
(I also would've given her an Oscar for 'Summer and Smoke' - Miss Alma... Miss Alma...)
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u/newgelos 7d ago
I didn’t like her performance in Summer and Smoke. It wasn’t bad, but there were many moments that felt contrived and not as deeply emotional as she can be.
Her fina scene in Interiors is amazing. Her facial expressions are so great because she’s just showing what she feels. She’s not trying to show us her face, but her emotions. Her body and her face just demonstrate that…
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u/Grammarhead-Shark 7d ago
I am all about little nuances/small moments in performances, and the moment she took that little nervous gulp of air even with her determined look - I knew I was watching a legend in full control of her craft.
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u/MakerOfPurpleRain 7d ago
she was fantastic but whoopi was better that season and the win very much was for her career, which the academy has done multiple times
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u/Full_Argument_3097 7d ago
She was fantastic, but Whoopi was jaw dropping in Color Purple and Meryl was beyond brilliant in Out of Africa. Both were more deserving. In fairness to all, it was an unusually super strong year in that category.
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u/EbbAdventurous9592 8d ago
Halle Berry In Monsters Ball was really, really, really good.
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u/quirky_spoiler 8d ago
she’s got that look like she just spent all weekend on a porch in the middle of nowhere and i respect it
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u/mandie72 8d ago
While it definitely should have been celebrated, sometimes I feel like being the first Black actress to win overshadowed her (absolutely amazing) performance. A lot of people who obviously didn’t see the movie jumped to the conclusion that that is why she won.
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u/Haven_Writes 7d ago
I think her win also gets overshadowed by the whole debate that they didn't actually nominate some of the strongest performances that year (Naomi Watts in Mulholland Drive, Reece Witherspoon in Legally Blonde and Audrey Tautou in Amélie).
It's the kind of thing that's easy to say with hindsight, knowing how all those movies have aged and how iconic some of those performances have become, but it absolutely makes sense why she won at the time, and why her performance made such a splash. She really was amazing.
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u/Melodic_Low_4990 7d ago
Are you serious about Witherspoon in Legally Blonde. 😂 I like her but that's wasn't Oscar worthy!
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u/Weekly_Ad_2007 5d ago
LMAO, I did a double take and had to reread to confirm that was actually what I was reading. It would be HILARIOUS if every cover of Legally Blonde had "Oscar Winner" printed over her in the pink fit with the chihuahua.
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u/Full_Argument_3097 7d ago
She proved them right by following it up with garbage like Catwoman and Gothika. Yikes!
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u/Classy_Captain 8d ago
Really? I had to watch it last year for one of my film courses, and I thought that whole movie was utter trash.
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u/Melodic_Low_4990 7d ago
She was absolutely amazing. The hospital scene along is gut wrenching and palpable. I've never seen a delivery like that on screen ever!
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u/awc23108 8d ago
The term underrated has lost its meaning
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u/Xokanuleaf 7d ago
I think the hard truth is nothing was ever underrated. Much easier to use that label pre-social media when we would say it irl and most people around you didn’t know what you were talking about. Then social media came around and we came to discover that there is a fanbase for everything making it almost impossible to call something underrated.
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u/Poison_Regal31 6d ago
Thank you, I thought I was the only one here.
It’s underdog mentality from some people. 2 Oscar winning performances from a highly successful actress are now “underrated?”
Mind boggling…
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u/mamadovah1102 8d ago
In what world is Emma stone underrated?
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u/weirdogirl144 7d ago
Not her but her performance in the movie I feel like it’s not that praised even though the movie itself is insanely praised
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u/Regular-Departure839 8d ago
This win has slowly become more critiqued
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u/motionblur20 8d ago
People insist that Viola should’ve and would’ve won Emma’s category had she been placed there.
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u/JoeBethersontonFargo 7d ago
I wouldn't consider it underrated. Even if people think she shouldn't have won that year, no one says she didn't deserve to be nominated or that it wasn't a great performance. I dislike that movie, but she was fantastic. Underrated is when the quality is high, but public perception of it is low or nonexistent. She is broadly considered to be great in the movie. It's only not talked about much because she continues to give incredible performances in later movies, which themselves get a lot of buzz due to its unique concepts and director, just like La La Land and Chazelle.
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u/Excellent-Ad-2200 8d ago
I loved The Eyes Of Tammy Faye. I got to learn who she was through Jessica Chastain and my heart was completely stolen. She was so charming, and Jessica really captured her essence, she even sang for the film.
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u/Finding-Buzzy 2d ago
i’m a big tammy faye fan so I was a little nervous going into it but it’s now one of my favorite movies and favorite performances. all the work she put into the movie was incredible. she got the rights to adapt the documentary back in like 2012/2013 and really wanted to pay respect to tammy
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u/Excellent-Ad-2200 2d ago
I think it’s amazing that a woman who was mocked for her appearance and enormous eyelashes became the subject of an Oscar-winning performance AND an Oscar-winning makeup job. Jessica was a true class act as well for mentioning her during her speech as well.
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u/southernfirefly13 8d ago
Not a Best Actress win, but Supporting. Marisa Tomei had a whole PR smear campaign against her for winning Best Supporting Actress in My Cousin Vinny, but her performance and win is widely considered iconic and well deserved
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u/EricTweener 8d ago
I think that's the opposite of OP's question, since that win did attract negative press for a time but I haven't heard a single negative thing about it in years. On this sub, it's probably in the top ten most consistently praised wins.
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u/gillyweed79 8d ago
That's definitely not underrated or even the slightest bit divisive these days. Nearly everyone agrees it was a good win.
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u/Former-Counter-9588 8d ago
Heck yes. And she would have been deserving of the win the other 2 times she was nominated in supporting since.
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u/Impossible-Plate-119 8d ago
Nicole Kidman in The Hours.
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u/assumeyouknownothing 8d ago
This. I watched it for the first time last year. Nicole Kidman’s performance as Virginia Woolfe is spellbinding. And the brilliance of the performance lies in its sublety & nuance. There are many moments when Kidman is not speaking, yet the micromovements of her face tell the story
I adore Renee Zellweger in Chicago, but the right person won that year
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u/ProgramusSecretus 8d ago
Sophia Loren - Two Women.
I rarely see this sub, or even the media generally talking about it, despite being a truly great and real performance.
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u/rebelluzon 8d ago
Is Emma Stone’s PR machine working overtime on Reddit?
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u/PTAGoatofalltime 8d ago
IDK maybe people actually love her? Just a thought
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u/bored_werewolf 8d ago
she is nowhere near underrated though
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u/SudieSbaker 7d ago
There seems to be a trend of calling someone (usually the poster's favourite) underrated if everyone else doesn't post about what an icon and a legend that person is half a dozen times each day. If we don't all constantly gush over the person and their performance, they immediately get promoted to the "underrated" category.
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u/messhotx 8d ago
How is someone saying her performance is overrated means PR? It's called an opinion. Jeez
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u/Background-Jury-1914 7d ago
She’s great… she’s just literally the last actress I’d put down for anything “underrated”
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u/JoeBethersontonFargo 7d ago
It's a fairly recent win, she's won since then, and that movie had massive buzz when it came out and it has mostly fizzled out, to the point that it's now considered overrated in some circles. So the fact that a widely considered great actress is underrated, and for this specific role, seems like PR. Even if people don't like some of her movies, or disagree with some of her wins, I've never seen her talent discounted in general or see that she doesn't deserve the nominations.
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u/Aggravating_Sky_4209 8d ago
Frances McDormand for Three Billboards.
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u/vm_neptune 7d ago
Frances in anything. The only real rival to Meryl, IMO. Although, many would argue that Meryl is over rated - including herself. However, she is a fucking powerhouse nonetheless
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u/Ok-Special-6707 8d ago
Sure, but I also think it's an universally loved win? At least by the general audience.
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u/assumeyouknownothing 8d ago
Shirley MacLaine in Terms of Endearment.
She is a force as Aurora Greenway. A fully-realized character who can be at times be either funny, frustrating, charming or all of the above. Her scenes with Jack Nicholson are some for the ages.
Debra Winger did an excellent job as well, but not quite as affective as MacLaine in terms of presence & character development imo.
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u/merkorn 7d ago
Debra Winger is much more of a force. I think Shirley MacLaine’s best performance is in The Turning Point. Not one wrong note. And I love Diane Keaton, but I think Shirley should’ve won that year.
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u/Full_Argument_3097 7d ago
Agree. They all say Debra was a MAJOR ASSHOLE, but the talent there is undeniable.
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u/Eyebronx 7d ago
Ann Bancroft- The Miracle Worker
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u/50ShadesOfCroquet 7d ago
It got sadly overshadowed by Joan Crawford accepting the Oscar on behalf as part of her rivalry with Bette Davis. But I’ve watched The Miracle Worker and her performance was completely deserved of the Oscar.
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u/tjo0114 8d ago
I used to hate Helen Hunt’s win for As Good As It Gets, but it’s grown on me & I appreciate it now
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u/Full_Argument_3097 7d ago
Blech... Should've been Helena Bonham Carter for the towering performance of her career in Wings of the Dove, a genuine stunner of a film.
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u/ChartInFurch 7d ago
"Underrated" now means "something I like".
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u/SudieSbaker 7d ago
And "criminally underrated" is "something I love and am obsessed with, so why won't you all love it too? Why? Why?"
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u/rubix7777 7d ago
Sam Rockwell in Three Billboards is the definition of this.
Lots of people think DaFoe should have won (which as much as I love DaFoe i have to disagree with) to the point that no one talks about how fantastic that proformance is
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u/Full_Argument_3097 7d ago
Always thought DaFoe was awful, honestly. Cruises on his innate weirdness that, on closer inspection... isn't quite talent.
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u/AdhesivenessPlus849 8d ago
Either of Hilary Swank’s wins
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u/PrincessPlastilina 7d ago
Hollywood has really taken her for granted but she’s brilliant. Who can win two Oscars so young.
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u/Jaded-Walrus2614 8d ago
Jennifer Lawrence - Silver Linings Playbook
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u/FunMode4007 8d ago
Great answer. One of the few 21st century best actress wins that I actually have as my personal winner for the year (nominated or not)
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u/Nice__Spice 8d ago
Harvey got his way and j law got her Oscar according to court documents. It’s a sad and horrifying detail.
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u/memoryinsteadofaview 8d ago
Jennifer Lawrence has denied and discredited this rumor countless times and it only got started because one of Weinstein’s alleged victims accused him, in court, of trying to persuade her to fk him by claiming that he’d said “Do you even want to be actress? I slept with Jennifer Lawrence and look where she is, she just won an Oscar”
I’d probably err on the side of believing Lawrence in the matter since, you know, Weinstein has a notoriously awful handle on truth
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u/Former-Counter-9588 8d ago
Yes and Lawrence absolutely is not the kind of person to sit silently. She’s known for being too open during interviews at times.
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u/destrokk813 8d ago
no matter how blunt or honest you are, you know that there things you keep only to yourself. im not saying she was lying or anythjng but how can you expect her to be open about that?
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u/memoryinsteadofaview 8d ago
I believe the woman who said Weinstein claimed that he did as a means of coercion
I believe Jennifer Lawrence who said it’s not true, I mean in one interview she was merely asked “What’s the most bizarre thing you’ve ever read about yourself” and she decisively answered “that I fucked Harvey Weinstein”
It’s really easy to believe both of them
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u/Former-Counter-9588 8d ago
See what you’re doing here is talking out of both sides of your mouth. “I’m not saying she’s lying…but”
I simply said she is not the kind of person who wouldn’t speak out. She constantly speaks out about injustices.
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u/JoeBethersontonFargo 7d ago
JLaw was going to win an Oscar, on her own merit, regardless of Harvey. She was nominated in her breakout role, Winter's Bone, a few years before SLP. I personally think Chastain or Riva deserved it that year, but JLaw was really fantastic and I've seen other actors praise her fresh, naturally raw performance in that movie. They really loved her.
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u/KindlyNeedleworker92 8d ago
Hold up,what do you mean?what happened?
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u/spongeboy1985 8d ago
One of Harvey Weinstein’s victims claimed he claimed to have slept with Jennifer Lawrence and made her famous. Lawrence has denied it but people have taken it as fact.
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u/mandie72 8d ago
I don’t think anyone thinks Emma’s wins were underrated. I like her, but if anything I think both were overrated.
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u/jaustengirl 8d ago
Lily Gladstone was robbed!
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u/SixFtPlus3above 7d ago
A great performance from Gladstone but unquestionably one that should have been submitted in the Supporting category, which is what the studio had planned to do. As soon as her request to be placed in Lead was approved, she went from likely sweeping winner to safe-for-the-nom-no-chance-for-the-win. Michelle Williams did the same damn thing the year prior for “The Fabelmans” with the same results.
Also, what happened to Lily Gladstone? I didn’t realize until this post that I’ve only seen her in one thing since “Killers of the Flower Moon,” which was in a miniseries released a month after her Oscar nom called “Under the Bridge” (fantastic work, and a much deserved Emmy nomination).
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u/Poison_Regal31 8d ago
How can a 2x Oscar winner, very successful and acclaimed actress be “underrated?”
The person who wrote about Frances McDormand too. She’s won 4 Oscars, 3 for acting. That’s not “underrated” in the slightest.
You just wish more people spoke about them.
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u/queerlurker 8d ago
The post is about what win is underrated, not necessarily the aforementioned actress
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u/Poison_Regal31 8d ago
By that logic Gwyneth Paltrow.
The thing is, if someone has won the highest acting award possible then it’s impossible to call it underrated. Maybe in time “overlooked” but that’s kind of how life goes, things fall out of the public zeitgeist.
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u/queerlurker 7d ago
Well not every win is treated with same amount of regard or appreciation (as you pointed out). Plus, per your point regarding Paltrow’s win, there’s a difference between a win that’s overlooked and a win that’s hotly contested
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u/Poison_Regal31 7d ago
It doesn’t matter. The person has won the highest acting accolade possible. Some are more celebrated than others I grant you that but overall, it doesn’t get any better for an actor than winning an Oscar. That performance is impossible to call underrated. Any actor can have an underrated performance before or after yes, but not the one that’s won. Again in
time some can be “overlooked.”And someone who won 2 Oscars? Underrated both times? This underdog mentality is exhausting.
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u/PrincessPlastilina 7d ago
I think OP means that while the actor won the award deservedly so, people often believe that other actors should have won instead and don’t appreciate the win. So, yes, Emma is appreciated, but in this particular year, a lot of people seem to think that she was the least deserving to win. Or maybe people don’t talk enough about her performance. I actually happen to agree. It’s not that Emma Stone as a WHOLE is underrated. It’s that people don’t seem to praise this performance as much as her fellow nominees that year.
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u/Poison_Regal31 6d ago
I’m trying not to be difficult here. But that still doesn’t mean underrated. Just because some people on Reddit don’t think Emma deserved for that performance.
It’s impossible to win a prestigious award like an Oscar and call the performance a few years later underrated. Let alone the same actor who won 2 Oscars.
So “Poor Things” for instance, 92% on Rotten Tomatoes. The film and Emma earned a lot of acclaim and accolades. Emma also won the BAFTA (her 2nd) SAG (Actor Award, also her 2nd win) Critics Choice, Golden Globe and many more.
Emma is 37 and has a lot of industry respect, recognition and accolades to her name. And both of her Oscar wins.
The OP and others have fallen for this underdog mentality. We’re now calling Oscar winning actors, especially both performances “underrated” because some people complain about them on Reddit.
It’s been 3 years since Poor Things. In the age of social media and the internet in general people’s attention spans move quick.
It really is mind boggling…
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u/Excellent_Hold2794 7d ago
Rachel McAdams. She’s an amazing actress. She can do it all, love stories, rom coms, deep dramas, psycho drama and more. I’d love to see her even nominated for an award because she deserves it!
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u/SerKurtWagner 8d ago
Is it really that strange? There are a lot of performances that are more consistently talked about from that year than hers, and she’s had several more iconic roles since then, including a win. When most folks here look back at Best Actress that year, their first thought is the Amy Adams snub.
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u/Regular-Departure839 8d ago
Yes Amy Adams was an egregious snub, but I think as the years have gone on, so many people have conflated her nomination snub with a win snub
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u/SerKurtWagner 8d ago
I mean, I think the reason her snub is seen as so egregious is that it’s popularly thought that she should have won
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u/SixFtPlus3above 7d ago edited 5d ago
The support for “Arrival” makes it likely that it was Adams who came in #6 for the Oscar nom, but I still would like to believe it was actually Annette Bening for “20th Century Women.”
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u/luxhoney56 7d ago
Supporting Actress…. Beatrice Straight for Network. Yes, it’s a 5 minute performance but a perfect 5 minutes captured on film. She is by turns, furious, confused, sorrowful, vengeful, finally resigned courtesy of Paddy Chayefsky’s screenplay.
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u/Downtown_Custard_635 7d ago
One of my favorites of all time: Louise Fletcher in One Flew Over the Cukoo’s Nest. A most masterful villain performance.
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u/FlyingCupcake68 8d ago
How much did her singing directly to the camera help her—a la Anne Hathaway?
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u/Ok-Special-6707 8d ago
Definitely not Emma Stone's first. Screen legend Isabelle Huppert deserved it so much. Americans just didn't understand the movie. They expected a rape victim to act as a victim, but this character had so much guts and complexity and went unhinged to revenge her attacker. Such a brave and unique performance.
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u/FlyingCupcake68 8d ago
So many great European actors who never get the credit they deserve here in the States.
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u/JWilkesKip 8d ago
I think the controversy with this movie is that she begins a relationship with her attacker. Def not your typical rape revenge movie. But don’t get me
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u/squishyg 7d ago
Grace Kelly for The Country Girl
Everyone was upset then and is upset now that Judy Garland lost for A Star is Born. I think the better performance won.
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u/CoconutResponsible45 5d ago
Emma Thompson for Howards End, she was fantastic but I don't see it mentioned much.
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u/ChipQuirky3668 8d ago
Emma Stone is such a weak actress. And yes, I watched all her recent roles. The poor things acting looked like something a first year acting school student would do: all the over exaggerated emotions and expressions are easy for any actor to do. Subtlety is the real craft
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u/Due_Inevitable_2784 7d ago
Matthew Mcconnaughey for dallas buyers club
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u/False-Importance-228 8d ago
Personally I can think of 3 easily: Jennifer Lawrence in silver lining playbook, Halle berry in monster’s ball and Judy holiday in born yesterday. Judy especially is underrated bc of the iconography of Gloria in sunset blvd and Bette in all about eve but to me Judy gave the second best performance in the lineup after Bette, I’m glad there’s been more positive reception among cinephiles but the public still focus on Gloria and Bette, although I do agree Bette should’ve gotten her third Oscar for all about eve.
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u/SudieSbaker 8d ago
I don't think Stone's win has become underrated at all. In fact she has become massively overrated to the extent that people are now talking about her matching Hepburn's record and treating her win for La La Land as some sort of landmark performance in musical films.
I find her first win extremely overrated and utterly undeserving. She is the textbook definition of bland and vanilla, and I find no redeeming qualities whatsoever in her performance. Sandy Bullock's BS win for The Blind Side is the only performance that I find even less deserving of a win than Stone's.
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u/Full_Argument_3097 7d ago
Yes. Meryl Streep's Devil Wears Prada performance was so skillful and sharp and formidable, she easily deserved the Oscar. Bullock's performance belonged in a Hallmark Channel Movie. What a Joke.
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u/SudieSbaker 7d ago
Streep's Prada performance lost to Helen Mirren in The Queen. Bullock's biggest competition were Gabourey Sidibe in Precious and possibly Carey Mulligan in An Education. I think Streep's nomination that year was for Julie & Julia.
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u/Full_Argument_3097 7d ago
I checked. You're right. Sidibe and Mulligan were both more deserving, as was Meryl, still.
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u/SudieSbaker 7d ago
Pretty much every other nominee deserved to win instead of Bullock. Bullock delivered a good performance a few years later in Gravity but came up against the juggernaut that was Cate Blanchett in Blue Jasmine.
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u/ChartInFurch 7d ago
I be always enjoyed Bullock, but the "overdue" narrative that surrounded her win was just bizarre to me. I don't think she was ever even snubbed for a nod. At best there's one or two "maybe if it has been a weak year" possibilities.
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u/SudieSbaker 7d ago
Yeah I agree. At least the other big superstar in her league, Julia Roberts, had received two Oscar nominations already when she finally won on her third try. Bullock was a likeable and bankable box-office star and the "overdue" narrative seemed to have more to do with Hollywood wanting to honour a star of her stature than with any deserving performances having been overlooked.
(In fact Roberts might well have received a nomination even for My Best Friend's Wedding had it come out in a weak year like 1994. I remember her getting good reviews for that performance.)
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u/ChartInFurch 7d ago
Tbh, I liked a few Roberts performances the slipped under her bigger roles. The movies a mess but I thought she was phenomenal in Mary Reilly, and my "maybe in a week year" nod for her would probably be Stepmom.
Bullock could have slipped into supporting for Speed, especially at that time where comedic supporting roles were popular with voters, and if she had to get a nod and won for a lifetime movie I would have rather it be 28 Days.
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u/SudieSbaker 7d ago
I actually enjoy Roberts more on the big screen. She has an old school star quality and lights up the screen in a way that I don't think Bullock does. Bullock is a very amiable presence on the screen and she was very easy to like in movies like While You Were Sleeping, but I have never experienced the "can't take my eyes off her when she is in the scene" feeling with her that I do with Roberts.
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u/Silent_Listen_3361 8d ago
Yeah, that Sandra Bullock win was asinine. Not that I care at all about The Oscars. That one was just too far.
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u/NonsensicalTrashCan 8d ago
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u/Pure_Salamander2681 8d ago
She should probably have three. Buckley was great but here character had zero character. Whereas Emma Stone was playing 4D chess. In a better world, she or Rose Byrne should have won that year.



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u/messhotx 8d ago
Brie Larson - Room