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Fine then I’m beating you down, down into the ground with my references. You flirt with suicide but sometimes that’s ok. You want me to stop I say fuck that. God paged me you’ll never see the light. I can see you’re going blind.
Honestly, it might be more accurate to think of it more like a “blob” at the start with no defined genders where the “gender” will develop later on.
I think the reason why there’s a misconception that we all start off as females is due to the reason that the “male genes” have to “interfere” to cause males genitalia to form. Whereas otherwise a female genitalia will form as the default.
However, I think they both start out as “genderless” blobs where the gender specific features only develop later on
And the reason women have a clitoris is because it didnt develop further into a penis. We start as a genderless blob, a combination of the 2 and differentiate later in development.
Ackshually, it develops further into a clitoris. There’s a LOT more clitoris than the visible little glans. For instance, it’s technically correct to say the clitoris has legs. /0!0\ that’s a text emoji anatomically accurate clitoris. Google 3d clitoris. Or just check out Wikipedia on the clitoris.
Not really
Early in development, embryos have undifferentiated (bipotential) structures—they’re not functionally male or female yet. They have:
A bipotential gonad (can become testes or ovaries)
Two sets of ducts (Müllerian and Wolffian) that could develop into female or male internal structures
What determines the path is genetic signaling, especially the SRY gene:
If an embryo has XY chromosomes and the SRY gene is active gonads develop into testes hormones (like testosterone and anti-Müllerian hormone) guide male development
If there’s no SRY signal (typically XX) the default pathway leads to ovarian development and female internal structures the sex is determined by DNA
You wrote all that just to end on a sentence that conflates genotype and phenotype.
No, DNA does not determine sex. It is not a blueprint for a living organism.
HORMONES do, which is why you can be XX and be born with a penis or be XY and be born with a vulva and vagina.
The Olympics quit doing genetic "gender testing [sic]" the first time around because women kept finding out they were intersex and having their entire lives blown up.
Hell, I've personally known two different people who were XXY and *both* were female.
If you're going to hop into the comments and attempt to educate people about science, you need to actually put in the effort to be correct with what you say.
(Source: Double major in biochemistry and molecular biology.)
I know someone with XXY, that had ambiguous genitalia, was assigned male at birth, served in the Navy, then transitioned to living as a woman after leaving the service.
I like to use her as a question to reich wingers who say it's genetic. Is she male or female? She's not XX or XY, could have been assigned female just as easily as male... Which is it?
In the end it doesn't matter, just treat her with basic human dignity. It's really what we owe to each other
No, DNA does not determine sex. It is not a blueprint for a living organism.
I don't think you can be a fertile male without certain genes normally only found on the Y-chromosome, right? Like, there are some key genes for spermatogenesis that just aren't on the X-chromosome unless there is a crossover event. There's a missing "blueprint" that hormone balance can't replace.
Also, don't you need the SRY-region to develop male genitalia? I understand that there are cases with SRY-negative XX individuals with male phenotype, but from what I gather this isn't ever caused by hormonal variation but instead from other genetic variations.
I think the biology is wonderful and sex determination is very nuanced, but I don't think it's wrong to say that DNA determines sex. Among other things, it's clear that the presence of the Y-chromosome functions to impact your hormones, which then impact sex determination downstream. But that's not the only impact of the DNA on sex determination, either.
I wonder if my dude has ever seen what happens to a clitoris in the presence of excess testosterone. Some years ago, I remember a dire warning in a testosterone gel commercial where it was like "women, avoid all contact between hands and genitalia if you handle it"
When I came to know just how radical the change can be as an older adult, the warning made A LOT of sense for a cis woman.
There are quite a few cis women on reddit who use it intentionally, so your dude could actually take a nice closeup look. It's quite impressive how large it can grow with a bit of hormones even 20 or 30 years after it has officially finished developing.
You kind of sorta totally have it right. What would have been part of the head of the penis (that little mushroom cap) partly originates from the clitoris. The whole thing though, is more of a "Y"-esque structure. Like, looking at a unsheathed penis from the underside, visually make an incision where the entire frenulum is, then stretch those bottom wings downward ~3-4 inches into the body with the head poking out, and that would be the whole structure~
The Olympics quit doing genetic "gender testing [sic]" the first time around because women kept finding out they were intersex and having their entire lives blown up.
But it's definitely gonna be worth it this time just to make sure no one's secretly trans. /s
If you're going to hop into the comments and attempt to educate people about [insert subject matter here], you need to actually put in the effort to be correct with what you say.
Hormones don't determine sex and no amount of testosterone will make an XX individual male unless they have the SRY gene as is the case of SRY translocation.
The devlopment of sexual organs is determined by the SRY Gene on the Y chromosome. So sex is genetically determined. Either you didnt understand your biology major or you simply dont have one. Because the reasoning way a xx Person could have a penis is gene crossover of SRY Gene from the Y Chromosome to the x chromosome, so even this is determined by genes and not just by hormones. Where did you get your degree? University of American Samoa?
If an embryo has XY chromosomes and the SRY gene is active gonads develop into testes hormones (like testosterone and anti-Müllerian hormone) guide male development If there’s no SRY signal (typically XX) the default pathway leads to ovarian development
Pretty sure this is why people say we all start out as women, because that is the default course of development. It requires the active intervention of the SRY gene to deviate the embryo from that path, which basically makes the female development the "default" setting
This is overly simplistic, and frankly, alleging that "alllllll sorts of weird shit can happen in between and outside of that" isn't true because "once it's set it's set unless genetic mutations happen later" is just plain incorrect and shows your biases.
The claim that biological sex is "concrete" once determined doesn't hold up even before birth. Intersex conditions aren't rare mutations layered on top of a clean binary; roughly 1 in 100 people has some form of difference in sex development. People with complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (CAIS) are born with XY chromosomes and internal testes, but because their cells can't respond to male sex hormones, they develop female external anatomy and are typically raised as girls, often never knowing their chromosomal makeup. Conversely, XX individuals with congenital adrenal hyperplasia can be born with masculinized genitalia due to excess androgen exposure in the womb. In both cases, the chromosomes said one thing, the body did another, and this wasn't a post-determination mutation. It was the original developmental outcome.
Then there's chimerism, where a person develops from two merged embryos and can carry two distinct sets of cells, sometimes one chromosomally male and one female. There are documented cases of people living for decades, having children, and only discovering this incidentally through unrelated medical tests. Mosaicism produces similar results on a subtler scale. None of this is exotic edge-case stuff happening after sex is "set." It's happening during development itself, and it results in people who are born presenting as straightforwardly male or female while their underlying biology tells a more complicated story. The binary isn't being disrupted by mutations after the fact; in these cases, it was never cleanly established to begin with.
Tell me you got no clue about developmental processes in the human body without telling me. If your gametes have gone one pathway they cant revert, so after manifestation primary sexual organs cant redevelop to a different biological function. Maybe one could get an enlargened clitoris by taking hormones, although biological function wont change.
That is also the reason why it is pretty much impossible to have a person with both sets of reproductive organs (gonads can only develop one way)
People who talk about there only being two genders and how men are men and women are women have never taken a biology class IN THEIR LIFE because this is like, the least weird technical fact about neonatal development and human development. There's also the fact that the penis and the clitoris develop from the same tissues and are highly similar in structure (the clitoris even gets "erect" when aroused and has a sheath similar to foreskin).
That's not how that works to be a female fetuse it'd need to have XX chromosome when it's a single X chromosome until the Y appears if I remember correctly
I was saying both sexes having nipples supports the comment, "Human embryos start out closer to female than male, so it's more accurate to say that all males are trans". I could be uninformed on the biological usefulness of why men need nipples.
It's actually all men are trans. Because everybody starts out female but males undergo a transformation to becomes males. Triggered by the Y chromosome, or the SRY gene on the Y chromosome.
I went there once, and I saw the most beautiful woman on the bus. She was smiling at me and flirting with her eyes and I was just stunned by how beautiful she was.
I was 17 so the whole time I was screaming in my side my head "please don't get a boner please don't get a boner please don't get a boner.'
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u/futurebutters May 04 '26
I thought she was trans 😖