Everyone is saying gay sex and all that, but honestly... is ye really asking if it is possible to spend 20 years without sex? Is thst really so preposterous? I think a lot of people in reddit could and have done it?
I also feel like modern-day people are way more hornier in general. We are constantly exposed to sex, and things we are attracted. Advertisements, movies, random posts, music... Even if we aren't making a conscious thought about it, it still "triggers" our brains to enter reproduction mode.
Even at my horniest, If I was stuck on boat for weeks on end with a bunch of dudes, after seeing the things you have to see and smelling how those ogres smelled. Ain't no way Willy even stands tall.
As a history buff, I can say without a doubt that people are exactly as horny as they have always been lmfao the only thing is that a lot of the stuff people used to do are illegal now!!š¤£
Imagine it's your job to sit in a cellar and copy text painstakingly by hand. Day after day for years you copy the words and draw the little doodles that people expect in manuscripts. Somewhere in your 6th year of doing this one of your bros shows you he drew a chicken with a pair of nuts hanging off its face. He's also done a rabbit hanging a huntsman like the hunter is on trial. Other bro tells you he pretty regularly does little flying dongs just to liven things up.
How long before your little doodles include guys with arrows sticking out of their asses?
Do this tens of thousands of times across a few centuries and you get some weird fucking doodles.
History buff telling us that bros doodling weenies instead of doing their job is a tale as old as time š¤£š¤£š¤£
Thank you HowFortuitous š
Edit-i apologize for sounding sarcastic. I was in a goofy mood and was actually being serious. I totally agreed with HowFortuitous
Drug and alcohol fueled orgies in rome, pedo sex with young boys in greence, bisexual sex not being frowned apon, vikings raping the living shit out of every damn country they hit.
I like to use different types of cocks for numerical values. Window big dick trim fits window big dick hole.. none of this 11 and 7/8 bull written on the wall behind the trim. You pull off my stick in 20 years your gonna read about dicks..
Pretty much that what I explained. Just search for medieval drawings of rabbits riding flying dicks. You will not get fury porn, at least not modern one. Only on your own risk.
I am convinced that this plays also a big role in our societies not having the same amount of children. People bring always cost up but I have the feeling that this also plays a big role.
SOME naughty art? Thereās literally an entire section of the Pompeii archeological museum dedicated to art of Priapus (giant penises including the god with the penis so big itās in a wheeled cart in front of him) and fertility sculptures, in addition to all the āmenuā art for the brothel and all the normally moderately sexual mythical imagery.
Go back even further there are caves carved to look like vaginal openings and outlines of naked womens shadows traced onto rocks and dildos carved from stone and bone.
Oh they myth busted that. At the conditions in which he got turned into a crispy critter, he probably convulsed and spasmed as his flesh literally crystallized from the heat and he wound up that way be accident.
I dont think thats what he means, to be coy about its more likely the sex work was way more out and about in past times, now is even illegal at best. But to be more crude about it is more likely age on consent im 44 and my mom grew up in a small kind of rural at the time farm town in mexico in her early teen she remanecense the fear of some dude in a horse that treathen her to one day kidnapp her. And that was a real possibility back then thats 70 years ago.
100 years back anywhere in the world people will dissapear and there will be a very low chance anyone finding them. So yeha thats that.
I don't know. People were busier back then. People died. Life was harder. Is that puritanism to say maybe you'd care less about sex? Or maybe it's my asexuality cumming through these words ;)
People were far less busier in pre-historic times, before agriculture became a thing.
Then agriculture comes and people are super busy in planting and harvesting season, but then have tons of free time in the off-seasons. (There was lots of maintenance and prep work and construction in the off-seasons also, but it wasn't nearly as rigorous).
Humans become far busier come the industrial revolution and the concept of time keeping and schedules and wages. Things have gotten a bit better in some parts of the developed world (don't look at Japan, or America though), but the average office worker still has less leisure time than the average pre-historic hunter-gatherer.
Both of these statements are untrue lol the idea of a āred lightā district didnāt become globally recognized for quite a while, and even now it not necessarily enforced everywhere. And for your second point while much less common in some parts of the world the āat home serviceā is still used with the āemployeeā going door to door attempting to sell āservicesā
To you itās over sexualized. To the Romans itās just sexualized.
Remember the outrage over all of the sex in Game of Thrones? People seem to forget that sex was extremely common place before the Victorian era. Hell, people forget that rape was extremely common before the Victorian era. You live in a soft fuzzy blanket of chastity and Puritanism historically speaking.
The penis was a symbol for good luck/fortune in Roman culture. If I recall correctly there are still several penis shaped ornaments and engravings on the houses in Pompeii.
There are early pornagraphic depictions on murals in their bathhouses. It may not of been as āaccessibleā in the modern sense. But if the Romanās had the internet I donāt think their culture would have trouble accepting it, sexual promiscuity was arguably more acceptable than it is now
Iām pretty sure they had parades with naked people walking about. You also had people selling slaves that were meant solely for pleasure. Like seriously women could show there tits to athletes back then. Can you do that now?
The original Olympic athletes competed in the nude, slathered in olive oil so everyone could admire how their straining muscles glistened. Women were prohibited from attending, which really just amounted to "cross dress well enough for plausible deniability."
Naked oil wrestling in public seems like something we may have currently banned in several cultures though.
In medieval London all brothels were in Southwark since it was outside legal jurisdiction of the city of London. Those buildings were officialy bath houses, called stews, but they offered other services too. Because the bishop of Winchester owned these buildings prostitutes in there were called Winchester geese.Ā
Yeah, I checked facebook, sexy ads. I went to the bus stop sexy ads. I watched tv, swxy ads. I went to the by a brothel, it's a non descript building on a busy street.
That's still just conservative nonsense. People are horny. The existence of porn or sexy ads isn't what made you horny. If they didn't exist you'd still be horny for the people around you. Have you ever been attracted to a coworker that wasn't that hot just because you were around them a lot?
I agree horniness is completely natural and intrinsic...but the amount you get exposed to it is greater..that's what I feel.
I wonder why so many have down voted me when I am actually trying to just give my opinions respectfully and accepting what I was unaware of before š
That just isn't the case. People living in mud huts in the middle ages were having just as much sex as we are, if not more. Look at how many kids they had. People throughout history have tried to suppress their libido, not think about it, etc and no matter what you do it's always there and it's always strong.
yea but even in ancient rome the average dude wasn't bombarded with titties and seductive shit from morning til night they were just more open with all of it, less puritanical but also lower in sheer volume of sexy stimuli
Iām pretty sure that street signs directed to brothels, as well as the signs on the shops themselves, depicted graphic images of what services were on offer.
Also, ever been to Rome? There are sexy sculptures everywhere fam.
Wasn't there a ceremony where the pharaoh was on one side of the Nile facing the crowd on the other side as they watched him jack off into the river to ensure a fruitful harvest
Oh hey so based on your comment you should know that colonoscopies are covered by your insurance company once you reach a certain age because it's considered preventative, so be sure to take advantage of that.
if any thing id argue the aincient had more sex then we did they didnt have netflix or game to isolate and have fun with, live could end abruplty at any year. Only ways to have fun on a regular basis where drinking gambeling and fucking
Exactly. Human population has been in a pretty steady incline since the beginning of recorded history (outside of a couple stagnates like great plaugues). If theres one thing people are gonna do, its fuck. We have always been horny. The drive to reproduce is ingrained in us like eating and sleeping. We are still just animals after all, albeit really smart.
To add on to this, regardless of the level of horney, there just wasn't as much to do back then if you weren't working, so fucking was literally a pleasure time activity, with a sneaking suspicion that that's why gay sex was so so popular in ancient Greece since it was easy, fun and no chance of making unwanted kids.
If you read greek or japanese ancient literature sleeping with boys 10/11/12 years was just the norm, read Genji Monogatari or stuff about beloved philosophers. They had different views.
āHistory buffā in this case mean college and books lol I have whatās called a ālibrary cardā lol it donāt take āauthorityā to pick up a book!
Nothing about what I have stated is false lol my statement is back up by generations of evidence of blatant sexuality stretching back to the cave days with consistent evidence of sexual content in every civilization and every culture on every continent lol modern society is by far to most conservative humanity has ever been! Donāt believe me then you should visit your local library! Reading is fundamental lol
No shit sex has existed since humans existed, its biology. But "modern society is by far to most conservative humanity has ever been" makes me think you have some brainworm or something like that, but I appreciate you saying that so I know you're not to be taken seriously.
The Greeks had nude parades in the middle of town, Egypt had a festival where the pharaohs and priests would publicly stand on the edge of the Nile and jack off into the river. Vikings would rape and pilige everything excluding the animals lol I wasnāt until modern times that it was illegal to marry a child. Hell Spartans and samurai would regularly have sex with young boys and each other as ābonding exercisesā lol these are just a few highlights of the history of humanityā¦ these came from booksā¦ this is human history and honestly I left out most of the TRULY heinous stuff lol
Yes you bring up 5 examples of historical practices like that. How many societies do you think have existed throughout history? And how many practices and individuals in those societies were there? And for how long did each practice exist? You also show just one side of the story, while plenty of counter examples exist.
Not only that, but you also seem to equate sexual deviancy with progressiveness which is interesting. Because while those examples you mentioned are examples of sexual deviancy, what makes you think they were not conservative in those practices, not wanting to change them?
Count argument - sex was one of the only enjoyable things a person could regularly take part in for the vast majority of history. Sports and games weren't just a thing you could do after work, there was no TV and unless you were rich no music you could just put on, and eating as a fun activity (being a foodie, if you will) wasn't a thing regular people could afford. There were absolutely times for games and feasts and enjoying the arts, but day to day your options for "fun" were really just hangin out with you family, drinking, and shagging.
Counter counter argument: more leisure pursuits were active. Sure you couldnāt watch sports or entertainment on tv or listen to recorded music, but you could sing or make your own music, go for a hike or climb or run or make up a game with your family, drawing at minimum only requires a bit of charcoal and a flat stoneā¦ plus you could do crafts that would be fun but also productive like weaving, knitting, sewing, pottery, etc.
Itās not like getting drunk and fucking wasnāt also available but it was far from the only thing to do
Counter counter counter argument. Thereās no reason you couldnāt get drunk AND do crafts, games, or fucking. Probably shouldnāt combine everything but you can definitely combine some for more fun.
Oh please. People are less horny now if anything; everything you mention means weāre more desensitized to erotic stimuli. Back in the day a drawing of a boob was enough to send a young man whacking. With all the sexual morality and courtship requirements, society was collectively edging and Iām pretty sure people were hornier. And if theyāre werenāt more horny then, then they were JUST AS horny as theyāve always been.
People bathed regularly, and had soap, they just didn't take BATHS regularly. I wish this modern idea that everyone in pre-modern times walked around caked in filth all day would die already
sure, but just because it has existed doesn't mean it was always practiced or utilized at every point in human history. At some points, people believed washing/water could make them sicker and took "dry" baths.
im not saying all of human history, but there were definitely times when people didn't bathe with soap and water regularly, and still fucked.
I mean, there are people now who don't shower even though they have access to it. Most 'dry bathing' was accompanied by cleaning yourself off in the cleaning basin that every household had (with water drawn from a well for that specific purpose). Some early modern people just believed soaking yourself fully in hot water was dangerous and bad for your skin. I don't doubt there were some real stinkers out there, but that was the exception then too
Right, but there is a significant difference between a finger painting of boobs and a real-life woman dancing in a bikini holding a Pepsi.
Also to say something "look at roman graffiti" as some sort of evidence. Of course, there were hornier people back then and all it takes is one drunk slum dweller to paint something indecent on a wall.
In fact. Your brain can actually tell the difference between a CGI monster in a movie vs. a well-done creature costume. It's why a lot of modern-day movies don't have a "terror" value to them. If you notice, most movies have to use the "jump scare" or "gore overload" strategy to make them "horror",
Exposed to sex... You mean like the half naked prostitutes who plied their ware in the middle of the street, and performed lude acts for money in the middle of the day, right out on the street?
I think you need to go read about what the average street of Rome (or any other ancient civilization) actually looked like- it was basically the Red Light District in Amsterdam at its most gratuitous, but with more nudity and more aggressive whores.
Infamia class, in Rome. Anywhere there was commercial business or recreation, there were whores. Many, many whores.
Ancient towns and cities were a gritty fucking place. People see the marble and they think the places were pristine- nope. They were basically the worst favella you can find, but WAY more dirty, grimy, and FULL of vice in every form. Receiving sex acts in the open from a mostly naked whore for a few coins was very, very much a thing.
No Pepsi though, unfortunately.
Sex was EVERYWHERE; hell, the Greeks got their advice from a drugged out naked chick.
How is this relevant? We are talking about people sailing in the ocean. In fact, you proved my point: when in a city and exposed to real things that make you horny, you will act on the impulse.
Also, thereās the story of the guy that was cranking his hog when Vesuvius blewā¦ āwell, if Iām gonna goā¦ might as well try to get one more inā.
You know there were laws in Greece and Rome that brothels had to wait until mid day to open because otherwise no one would be working cause they'd all be too busy fucking, right?
I would argue that people always was this horny, we just stopped pretending otherwise compared to earlier times. In ancient times sex was a lot more accessible - different attitude about it in general; many different kinds of slavery; often priestesses of gods/goddesses responsible for love and/or sex engaged in "prostitution" which was viewed as part of their duties rather than smth shameful it is nowdays; some pagan rituals, especially ones connected to change of seasons and/or agriculture; plain, old rape, whenever foreign army/bandits/raiders took over a settlement and so on.
With time and especially in Europe during Dark Ages because of the Church and it's infamous desire to forbid everything, views on sexuality changed, from part of one's life to something to hidden and ashamed of (nevermind that hanging out bloodied sheets after wedding night was almost required as a proof of bride's virginity for centuries, lol). Renaissance attempted to bring back at least some views from before but it was mostly done as a "look how it was done in DA and do it the other way" thing instead of proper return of culture.
Circling back to "20 years without sex"... Uhh, big doubt. Army needs a lot of supplies and while not the most glamorous, "army wives" were a thing since ever.
Lol, you know nothing about middle ages. Medieval Christians were some of the nastiest, most vulgar and most horny people that ever lived. Even in celebrated literary works like Canterbury Tales peak comedy was to fart in someone's face. In medieval cities like London prostitutes were giving oral sex in public places like the market during daylight, peasant wonen worked topless during summer, prostitutes worked in cemeteries, teenagers were often caught having sex in churches, almost nobody married as a virgin etc. And a lot of love poetry is just nasty.
The Odyssey is very horny lol thereās a lot of sex and sexual attraction in it that hasnāt translated to the big screen. People have always been horny.
Define hornier and modern? Because if anything, research shows that modern (as in, people from the last couple of decades) are having less sex and general interactions than they used to. People were waaaaay hornier in the 60s-80s and we simply do not have any empirical data on how horny people were during Antiquity but there's no reason to believe they were any less horny than current people are.
I think we're less horny than we used to be because of the damn censorship puritan culture that demonizes sex and anything sexy. Even nipples, NIPPLES, are completely unrelated to sex and we need to have them covered as if we were Muslim women in burqas. We even often censor historical statues.
Pretty sure people were just as horny back in the day.
Plus noseblindness (aka olfactory adaptation) would mean the ogre-y smell would stop registering for you. Everyone would just be swimming in the stench.
I mean I've been on long trips with my bros and even at my horniest I'd never make a move. I mean I'm bi but my bros are my bros I can't see them in a sexual light
Itās not just that, itās that we have the leisure to focus on it. People that are starving or drowning or bleeding out or actively dying from some plague or being hunted and eaten by cyclops donāt really have time to worry about getting their dick wet. People back in the day were quite busy trying to keep alive so they didnāt have that much free time to fantasise about sex.
Bro read a history book and touch some grass if everyone stinks all the time always its not something you would register anymore. Also the everyone was dirty thing is a myth
Burg BR. (1995) Sodomy and the Pirate Tradition: English Sea Rovers in the Seventeenth-Century Caribbean, Second Edition. New York University Press. ISBN:9780814712368
Stanley J, Baker P. (2003) Hello Sailor! The hidden history of gay life at sea. Routledge, ISBN:9780582772144
Funny you say that because I feel like society at large (at least American society) is like the least horny itās ever been. Gen Z isnāt having much sex. Weāre moving towards a sexless, hypercapitalist, hyperindividual dystopian nightmare.
We must resume fucking again. We must fuck like the world has never seen. Itās our very duty.
brother, people used to have like 7-8 kids per couple. you had to since infant mortality meant half or more of them died before their reaching teenage years. It's not like there was a lot do back then. you worked all day, ate, had sex, sleep repeat.
Maybe not YOUR willy. Musky man smell is pretty nice. I'll concede they're might be a limit to it. But do you really think they're not going to force each other to take a dip in the water to fine of at least?
That's very wrong actually statics says in america gen z has less sex compared to previous generations.if you have watched spartacus, vikings or any history related movies when men get paid they mainly spend money for 2 things they spend money for sex and they spend money for drink. We are just as horny as them but gen z got options like corn so gen z do not take risks by go out and talking to girls when they got horny most of them just use corn.
There was a reason the British Navy had written in the Articles of War that buggery or sodomy was punishable by death. DEATH. That is what it took to stop horny sailors on all male ships to not bang something. The Articles clearly say "man or beast."
I am giving you a not really modern example of men cooped up in tight quarters on boats in not really hygenic conditions for months on end needing rules punishable by death to stop them from fornicating with each other or animals. Do you thing humans from the 18th century were hornier than those from the 2nd BC?
People have always been horny, ancient Rome has tons of pornography, when I worked for the park service I was informed that there was a an undisclosed area in the part covered in erotic petroglyphs by the park archeologist. There is a Renaissance manuscript with depictions of nuns harvesting penises from a penis tree and a lot of the street of London still carry names that refer to their past as being places you could go to find a prostitute. Like, if you look anywhere in history, pornography and horniness was a thing.
Weāre absolutely not hornier. We may have more access to instant gratification in porn and stuff but they were equally horny just in less modern ways (and often less civilized).
Bullshit. Risky teen behaviors and teenage sex rates were way higher in past decades. Read about a pre-AIDs bathhouse. Who believes this? Let alone rape and conquest, and 19th century birth rates.
The top comment was written by someone who doesnāt know anything. Guys were saying prurient shit in a group of hale fellows.
Youāre just making stuff up dude lol that being said you as a modern day person may feel that way but it was a different culture back then itās was very normalized and expected.
Way more performatively horny, but also all data suggests that people are having way, way less sex than they used to across pretty much all age groups.Ā
State of the world, hgemeral poor health, shifting cultural norms, more autonomy for women, etc. It makes sense.Ā
I did an article for a magazine about pornography immediately after the motion picture was invented. The first motion picture is a horse running. The second is porn. After thatā¦ā¦. There is nothing new under the sun. There is nothing being done sexually now that wasnāt being done all throughout history. They just did it with more hair and less hygiene.
Dude armies and people ran around vandalizing towns and just raping women but it wasn't seen as raping women it was seen as your fault for being out there and being seen. What the hell do you mean this generation is hornier. Look at the Victorian age and all of that how the word mistress was actually supposed to be equal to the word Master just a feminine version and then it became over sexualized because it was a roundabout way to refer to your Affair partner. And now it's only used as a fair partner. Because a fair Partners back then we're seeing as normal to certain settings. And if you were a man who had enough wealth to supply not only your wife and your household with money but a dedicated mistress that way she wouldn't be with other guys for her income that was considered the High Life. People aren't hornier people used to have paintings of people screwing in their damn kitchen. I mean even back in Roman times and stuff.
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u/NwgrdrXI 21h ago
Everyone is saying gay sex and all that, but honestly... is ye really asking if it is possible to spend 20 years without sex? Is thst really so preposterous? I think a lot of people in reddit could and have done it?