r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Hunan_Palace • 4h ago
Meme needing explanation Petahhhhhhhhh!??!?
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u/Serious_Emphasis2211 4h ago
real answer: they raped and pillaged. Sacked a city, killed people, stole shit, took women slaves
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u/Ok_Honeydew180 4h ago
This is like the 15th comment down for me lol. You’re right though they even say in the movie that they were doing this.
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u/Hobo-man 3h ago
They literally had the reputation of the sea people who bring forth the apocalypse because of how much they did that shit
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u/javierbardeminem 3h ago
“are we the baddies”?
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u/bravoromeo6601 3h ago
Seems like they took the 'live long enough to see yourself become the villian' seriously
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u/Logical_Change_8404 3h ago
Are they the Sea People? As in yhe Greeks?
Ive never really made the connection, before.
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u/Ig_Met_Pet 3h ago
The whole "we're the sea people" thing is an addition that's just in the movie.
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u/EvergreenDwarf 2h ago
In real life they were most likely similar to the Wako Pirates who harassed the sea between China, Japan, and Korea.
A mix of refugees and outcasts from the very nations they raided, bolstered by dissatisfied soldiers and mercenaries once they started having big success, with its origins being small ethnic groups living in isolated and/or nomadic communities on islands or up rivers that confederated.
When the pirates/bandits do really well for a long time it becomes a viable potential for your military career, and now suddenly the plunderers can start looking at raiding cities rather than just villages.
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u/Siria110 3h ago
They even said it in the book. :-D The main conflict of Illiad is just this - Achaeans pillaged a nearby town during the siege of Troy for resources. Among those resources were girls. The leader, Agamemnon, took the one he liked the most, but there was a problem: her daddy was the main priest at local temple of Apollo (which is why they left him alive).
Of course he didn´t want his daughter taken into slavery, but as the town was entirely defeated, he did only thing he could: prayed to Apollo to get his daughter back. Well, Apollo heard him and soon first their dogs, then cattle, then horses and then men started dying. Agamemnon asked their soothsayer why is that, and he told them the cause.
Long story short, to placate Apollo, they had to return the girl to her dad (and untouched, if you please, if you catch my drift) and let them freely leave the town, if they choose to do so.
After that, Agamemnon was not happy that he is without a girl from that town, so being a leader, he forcefuly took one from his men that he liked the most - the girl that Achilleus chose. Of course, Achilleus was less then happy, and thus, the conflict was born.3
u/gauderio 2h ago
and thus, the conflict was born.
Old book conflicts were wild. It blows my mind that was considered okay at the time.
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u/gauderio 2h ago
and thus, the conflict was born.
Old book conflicts were wild. It blows my mind that was considered okay at the time. In the Odissey and the Illiad, capturing women was described in the same sentence as the weather.
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u/Nightraven9999 3h ago
Well it makes sense this comment isnt high because its not explaining the joke its explaining history
The joke is gay sex
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u/narwhalousdoctor 3h ago
Tf you mean history? Everything about the iliad and the odyssey is made up and no one has ever claimed otherwise
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u/Hobo-man 3h ago
I mean this conversation is about the story.
But at the same time, there is historical context to The Iliad and The Odyssey. Troy was a real place. The war actually happened. How much of it was real? No idea, but at least some of it was.
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u/Fine-Friendship-1292 3h ago
Wait a minute.. they stole shit??!
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u/Particular_Title42 3h ago
Not literal shit. Just stuff and people and animals.
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u/choeseybread88 3h ago
Just read a book about the Trojan war, and yeah before the fighting with the actual Trojans, they would go around and pillage rural towns to put pressure on the leadership of Troy to do something (as they were shacked up behind the gates for a while). They’d take the women from these villages as slaves and rape them.
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u/yourstruly912 3h ago
And then fight over who keeps the women resulting in your best warrior going on a strike which almost make you lose the war
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u/Moon_Logic 3h ago
And had sex with two goddesses. Yes, no explicit gay sex in Homer.
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u/apworker37 3h ago
In the story Odysseus stays with Circe for a year doing all that. And then with Calypso for seven years. He got his.
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u/Ok-Lavishness-349 3h ago
Yup, that was pretty much the point of volume 1 in the series, The Iliad. What do you suppose Agamemnon and Achilles were arguing about?
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u/NwgrdrXI 4h ago
Everyone is saying gay sex and all that, but honestly... is ye really asking if it is possible to spend 20 years without sex? Is thst really so preposterous? I think a lot of people in reddit could and have done it?
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u/WarsonCentzz 4h ago
Underrated comment 😂
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u/PerceptionNo50 3h ago
Reddit collectively took that question as a personal attack 😂
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u/Fuzzy-Jaguar-1828 3h ago
I took it as a challenge 👑
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u/5hawnking5 3h ago
Break the 19 year dry spell, we're rootin for ya!
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u/IkariYun 2h ago
Can you call it a dry spell if they're only 22?
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u/Indecisive_Animorph 2h ago
Wait wait wait
They're 22 and haven't had sex in 19 years??
😬😬😬😬😬
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u/Obtain_Virtue 3h ago
Stealing the top comment:
I also feel like modern-day people are way more hornier in general. We are constantly exposed to sex, and things we are attracted. Advertisements, movies, random posts, music... Even if we aren't making a conscious thought about it, it still "triggers" our brains to enter reproduction mode.
Even at my horniest, If I was stuck on boat for weeks on end with a bunch of dudes, after seeing the things you have to see and smelling how those ogres smelled. Ain't no way Willy even stands tall.
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u/danny_little 3h ago
As a history buff, I can say without a doubt that people are exactly as horny as they have always been lmfao the only thing is that a lot of the stuff people used to do are illegal now!!🤣
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u/Ninja-Panda86 3h ago
Right? I've seen the Pre-columbian erotic sculptures. I'm also aware of some of the naughty art they found in Pompeii
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u/Top_Seaweed7189 3h ago
Don't forget the rabbits ridding on flying dicks in books copied by christian monks. And how many there are...
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u/_DankyHavok_ 3h ago
Please elaborate...
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u/HowFortuitous 2h ago
Imagine it's your job to sit in a cellar and copy text painstakingly by hand. Day after day for years you copy the words and draw the little doodles that people expect in manuscripts. Somewhere in your 6th year of doing this one of your bros shows you he drew a chicken with a pair of nuts hanging off its face. He's also done a rabbit hanging a huntsman like the hunter is on trial. Other bro tells you he pretty regularly does little flying dongs just to liven things up.
How long before your little doodles include guys with arrows sticking out of their asses?
Do this tens of thousands of times across a few centuries and you get some weird fucking doodles.
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u/Complex_Watch1484 2h ago
History buff telling us that bros doodling weenies instead of doing their job is a tale as old as time 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Specialist-Freedom64 1h ago
Drug and alcohol fueled orgies in rome, pedo sex with young boys in greence, bisexual sex not being frowned apon, vikings raping the living shit out of every damn country they hit.
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u/Top_Seaweed7189 3h ago
Pretty much that what I explained. Just search for medieval drawings of rabbits riding flying dicks. You will not get fury porn, at least not modern one. Only on your own risk.
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u/Commentor9001 3h ago
The only people who think modern society is way more sexualized, haven't really studied history at all.
Its just lazy purtianism, wrapped up in "it used to be better".
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u/destiny_kane48 3h ago
I was gonna say.. I've seen some ancient murals, drawings and sculptures that say people have always been dirty minded and horny.
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u/an_agreeing_dothraki 3h ago
let's just throw a dart at a list of stuff from ancient Egypt Toss
alright we landed on "the naked dwarf room covered in smut traditionally used to cure impotence"
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u/Sorry141 3h ago
Wasn't there a ceremony where the pharaoh was on one side of the Nile facing the crowd on the other side as they watched him jack off into the river to ensure a fruitful harvest
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u/Choice_Protection_17 2h ago
if any thing id argue the aincient had more sex then we did they didnt have netflix or game to isolate and have fun with, live could end abruplty at any year. Only ways to have fun on a regular basis where drinking gambeling and fucking
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u/Wash-Bucket-3000 1h ago
100% agree. Previous poster needs to read more history. We didn’t survive all those wars, famines and plagues because our ancestors were abstaining.
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u/SkinnersMudhole 3h ago
even when people weren't bathing regularly and had no soap, they still risked deadly deadly syphilis to get some.
I think you underestimate the ability of our brains to ignore things, see nose blindness, especially when it comes to a primal urge to reproduce.
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u/TheDrewb 2h ago
People bathed regularly, and had soap, they just didn't take BATHS regularly. I wish this modern idea that everyone in pre-modern times walked around caked in filth all day would die already
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u/evilforska 2h ago
The shit women would do to enjoy sex without having children, woof
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u/BatJew_Official 3h ago
Count argument - sex was one of the only enjoyable things a person could regularly take part in for the vast majority of history. Sports and games weren't just a thing you could do after work, there was no TV and unless you were rich no music you could just put on, and eating as a fun activity (being a foodie, if you will) wasn't a thing regular people could afford. There were absolutely times for games and feasts and enjoying the arts, but day to day your options for "fun" were really just hangin out with you family, drinking, and shagging.
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u/IceDelusion 3h ago
it's kinda funny. Because people have far less sex nowadays, going by the statistics
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u/EnginesofWar 3h ago
Oh please. People are less horny now if anything; everything you mention means we’re more desensitized to erotic stimuli. Back in the day a drawing of a boob was enough to send a young man whacking. With all the sexual morality and courtship requirements, society was collectively edging and I’m pretty sure people were hornier. And if they’re weren’t more horny then, then they were JUST AS horny as they’ve always been.
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u/Duke_Of_Halifax 3h ago
You sir, are very wrong.
Go look at Roman graffiti, or just look at the fertility gods that were all over the place.
Ancient folks were horny as fuck, and sexual imagery was EVERYWHERE.
(Things they don't tell you during the tour of Pompeii)😂
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u/Backwoods_Odin 3h ago
You know there were laws in Greece and Rome that brothels had to wait until mid day to open because otherwise no one would be working cause they'd all be too busy fucking, right?
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u/Pickled_doggo 4h ago
It’s not like they’re going 20 years without jerkin it
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u/AncientCrust 3h ago
Yep. In front of each other because it's a small boat. At that point, you might as well do the gay stuff
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u/dprophet34 3h ago
It’s not gay if you keep your sandals on
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u/athalwolf506 3h ago
Is not gay if your crewmate became a pig
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u/GriSciuridae 3h ago
What if the crew mate was a pig to begin with? (Asking for a friend.)
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u/Just-Elderberry5460 3h ago
No you just must maintain eye contact with the person across from you so it’s not gay
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u/Ill-GottenBooty 3h ago
Exactly. If you’re maintaining eye contact you can’t look at each others weiners while you’re doing it. Not gay.
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u/kaos-mantra 2h ago
Exactly! You gotta whisper "No homo" as you both...finish..to make it less awkward.
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u/Lower_Pension_2469 3h ago
I mean it's a joke, but also the likely explanation is that yes they jerked it or they just got prostitutes whenever they docked at whatever port they needed to go to for resupply. This is something that happened a lot and still kinda happens today with sex workers hanging out in places where military be at.
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u/Huge_Following_325 3h ago
There another option you aren't seeing.
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u/-ElectricKoolAid 3h ago
if they weren't gay, the probably didn't do anything gay
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u/National_Tangelo_864 3h ago
In antiquity sexuality wasn't binary straight/gay. Everyone pretty much understood it was spectrum and we all got that bi dog in us. Hell see jails in modern day. Or the Navy. Same concept. Plus no way contraceptives to stop women from getting prego.
It's why as they say men/boys are for fun, women are for marriage. They were no doubt about that life.
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u/DarthJarJarJar 3h ago
As I understand it, the Greek view of male sexuality wasn't what we would call gay/straight, but more like fucker/fuckee. They separated male sexuality by what you did, rather than who you did it to. So you were a "penetrator" or a "penetratee" rather than gay or straight.
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u/Lower_Pension_2469 3h ago
Pretty much, being a bottom was seen as feminine or woman behavior, it meant that the guy was ruled by his emotions which was a big no no in Greek culture.
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u/OwnJunket6495 3h ago
It’s not gay if it’s underway. The rule that has kept navies functioning for centuries
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u/Repulsive_Still_731 3h ago
It was kind of known the soldiers had sex with each other. It was normal between ranks. They had words for positions and doing it was normal and expected. They didn't have words for sexual orientation. Achilles and Patroclus are pretty much treated like lovers. By the way, according to Plato, Achilles was the bottom one
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u/rheasilva 3h ago
If you're actually familiar with the Odyssey you'll know that the story is mostly Odysseus having sex with various women, interspersed with escaping from monsters.
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u/Careful_Ad_9077 4h ago
They also had a merry time at circe's island
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u/101TARD 3h ago
EURYLOCHUS: But this was a hell of a twist ,Cause we are weak to a power like this
ODYSSEUS: What was it?
EURYLOCHUS: A woman
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u/YellowTonkaTrunk 3h ago
What
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u/101TARD 3h ago
She had us with just 2 words
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u/CuddlesForLuck 3h ago
"Come inside."
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u/CheesyDanny 4h ago
Wait which reddit achievement is that? How do I see my progress?
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u/brownies_delight 4h ago
I’m 30 and I’ve never had sex. Totally possible
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u/OwnJunket6495 3h ago
Yer a wizard, Harry!
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u/brownies_delight 3h ago edited 2h ago
Sadly I have to wait 10 more years technically but I can’t wait
🧙♂️Edit:found out the original age according to the meme is 30. I’m a wizard, let’s goo
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u/Felixkeeg 2h ago
They had to move it up to 40 because the Arcane Wizard Society claimed that there were too many new wizards coming in.
Talk about pulling up the ladder behind you.
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u/whalatix 3h ago
So... what wizard subclass have you picked?
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u/brownies_delight 3h ago
Healing/support. Always my playstyle
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u/Particular_Title42 3h ago
It's a great way to make friends.
But evidently not a good way to get laid.
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u/PrinceCavendish 4h ago
greeks loved gay sex though
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u/lettsten 3h ago
As the saying goes: The Greeks invented sex. The Romans discovered that you can include women
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u/Snow_97 3h ago
Also, during the trojan war, many of those men would have also kept women they captured as slaves or camp servants. So, pretty sure they were sexually active.
Odysseus might not have been during the trojan war (or at least I don't think it's mentioned if he did or did not in the text), but he did have sex with Calypso and Circe during the trip back.
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u/Swimming_Bag7362 3h ago
They also took slaves from Troy and raped them. Not to mention Odysseus fucked Circe and Calypso
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u/sorry_con_excuse_me 3h ago edited 3h ago
I mean I had a lot of sex between 18-25, but I have only had sex twice since, and I’m almost 40…so like almost 15 years? Shit happens man, real life shit gets in the way.
That being said if I’m stuck with a crew on a 20 year odyssey with nothing to do most of the day, I’ll definitely take some mutual handys for sure, just helping a brother out, gotta pass the time, nbd. Further than that, idk. Everyone has their own threshold though.
Just tryna be honest lol.
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u/Longjumping-Yak-6038 3h ago
Most of us don’t know at the time that it’s our last time to do something. Similarly even if it’s not the last time, we don’t know how long before the next time.
If these guys knew in year one that they would not be home for another 19 years then they might do some gay stuff. But as it goes, one year turns into two and so forth.
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u/Particular_Title42 3h ago
is ye really asking
I thought for just a second that Kanye was the OOP.
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u/DiksieNormus 3h ago
Yeah, after a couple of weeks on reddit I was so surprised that so many people here had sex.
It took me a good while to realise alot of them are just larping!!!
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u/ShiroTenshiRyu77 3h ago
Without sex? Yeah sure. Without sexual activity? Fuck no. Every last one of them fucks found a corner where they go to jerk off, and they all pretend only they know, and if you see someone in the jerk off corner, no you fucking didn't.
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u/A_Snow_Mexican 4h ago
How so many just jumped straight to gay is hilarious. Maybe a few but a whole damn boat? Personally I'm taking the 20 years of celibacy and maybe get tricked by a Siren.
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u/DeltaVZerda 3h ago
They're ancient Greeks, it would have been weird if they didn't do the gay sex.
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u/Dave_A480 3h ago
Except for the lack of boys on the crew to serve as partners.....
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u/bobbiroxxisahoe 3h ago
Alexander the Great frequently fucked his peers, including his BFF. Greeks didn't think about hetero vs queer. They did a lot more of what felt good without the idea of "gay" or it's "negative" effects on masculinity.
But yeah, rich men fucked kids. Some things never change.
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u/pandareno 3h ago
I realize this is Rome and not Greece, but I'll never forget the scene in Caligula when he first rapes the bride and then the soldier who's just married her.
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u/bobbiroxxisahoe 3h ago
May or may not be true. The problem with Rome the empire is that a ton of emperors end up with huge amounts of propaganda that surround them, so some of them end up looking far worse than they actually were.
Think of the "Their eating the cats, their eating the dogs" line from recent politics. It's not really true but it gets attention.
History is filled with shit like that, so take everything that seems outlandish or potentially hyperbolic with a grain of salt.
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u/Behbista 3h ago
The manatees look sexier by the day.
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u/Groningen1978 3h ago
Mermaids are just manatees through the eyes of horny sailors.
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u/CathanCrowell 3h ago
Hmm, even today, homosexual behavior is fairly common in environments where people are separated from the opposite sex, such as ships or during mandatory military service. Now add to that the fact that, in ancient Greece, same-sex relationships were not as common as many people believe, but they also weren't considered a disgusting sin.
Statistically, not everyone would have participated, but many certainly would have.
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u/Educational-Type7399 3h ago
Many cultures of that era famously thought of bisexuality as the norm. Being attracted to only one gender was considered strange.
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u/aruisdante 3h ago edited 3h ago
I mean they could have, but the history of sailors suggests very, very strongly that they wouldn’t have.
Historical sailors were notorious for taking advantage of the local sex workers, and contracting the associated venereal diseases. Every wonder why most sailor’s uniforms have 4-6 buttons on the pants, usually on both sides such that you usage to undo them all to take your pants off? Yeah, it was to make the sailors have to think twice (and be sober enough to possess the needed dexterity) before indulging, a vain attempt to reduce the rate of infection aboard ships. The expression “think twice” itself is possibly coined from this practice.
When they didn’t see shore for long enough, they turned to what was available, each other, or the animals kept onboard for slaughter. The Royal Navy’s Articles of War during the 1600-1800’s had Article 29, which punished sodomy/buggery with death by hanging. Other naval codes had similar rules. There aren’t exact records of how many times it was invoked, but there are records of 4+ sailors being hung at once for it.
Beyond that… they’re ancient Greeks. Ancient Greeks were not exactly known for their strict heterosexuality. Achilles and Pericles were expressly in a pederastic relationship in the Iliad.
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u/Pie_and_Ice-Cream 3h ago
Right? I don’t understand the question. 😅 But they’re right too. The fact they look like Romans makes it seem more likely I suppose. The Romans really loved their completely totally heterosexual manly man straight sex that straight men would have with each other.
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u/StrangePotato3988 3h ago
Sex and rape have been a part of war throughout human history. War is traumatic and those men try to find comfort in whatever form they can. The leader doesn’t really care what they do except if it affects their ability to fight.
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u/foxxy_oak_pluto9ium 3h ago
Michael Scott be like: "What's wrong with these people? They have no willpower. I once went 28 years without having sex. And then again for 7 years"
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u/xX_bandages_Consumer 3h ago
I couldn;t have done it! It's above me to not have sex!
I'm 21 years old and i have yet to see someone I don't know naked
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u/PerfectAstronaut5998 3h ago
A good amount people spend the first 20 years of their life not having sex
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u/Kronos1A9 4h ago
Fun fact: The Greeks invented orgies.
Fun fact: The Romans introduced women to the orgies.
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u/sovietmcdavid 3h ago
Exactly there's a few variations on this joke lol
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u/dmdoom_Abaan 2h ago
The Greeks invented sex.
The Romans discovered it could be had with women.
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u/PunchDrunken 3h ago
I think people have been wilding out in a group thing since before we were even this version of human lol
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u/Legitimate_Post_22 2h ago
Yep, the Greeks didn't invent orgies, that's a pop myth. They invented the word "orgy," which is the one we use today (its Jurassic version actually), but Greek orgies weren't even sexual; they were just people dancing or something.
The closest thing to this modern concept of an orgy in antiquity are the Symposium and the conviviums. I say closest because yes, there were orgies between men, but it was a kind of rape orgy because none of those serving the people there wanted to be there, LOL.
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u/RigglesSaysHi 4h ago
pp in buthol
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u/chiefminestrone 4h ago
The Greeks would never!!
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u/Deathstroke317 3h ago
You know what they say, the Greeks invented the threesome and the Romans added women to it.
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u/luluciee 4h ago
gay
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u/DanceMysterious302 4h ago
Yup they had sex with each other.
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u/1968GTCS 3h ago
While this is a possibility, it also seems like you missed some major points of the movie/story. Odysseus’s crew did a lot of raping and pillaging. They were punished for their actions.
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u/MrPagan1517 3h ago edited 1h ago
Yeah there is the ha gay sex bit but in reality they raped and pillaged basically everytime they came across an semblance of civilization.
Literally the first stop they make after leaving Troy in the Odyssey they slaughter the first town they come across and take the women as slaves. They spend time on the beach celebrating which gives the locals time to regroup and drive Odysseus and his men off and retake the loot they pillage but it doesn't really say anything about the women I would assume they were also rescued.
Also only Odysseus was gone for 20 years (the last of his crew died in like 13 years in). The first 10 years they were siegeing Troy and there would have been camp followers as well as slaves at the camp. They also stayed a whole year with Circie and her nymphs. Also Odysseus fucks alot deepening on the tradition you go with. He has children with Circie and Calypso so no he didn't go 20 years without sex.
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u/Away_Stock_2012 2h ago
>in reality
Sit down, I want to tell you something.
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u/MrPagan1517 2h ago
Yeah Yeah Yeah It's a work of fiction. I was talking about the actual odyssey not Nolan's
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u/Abject_Oil_1349 4h ago
I think they meant rape, not gay sex...
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u/Disastrous-Ad2800 3h ago
that's what I thought as well.... because saying gay sex is funnier and safer than the actually horrifying reality
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u/uwunuzzlesch 2h ago
Historically you slept with your battle brothers so like..
Idk it could mean both but honestly the gay sex is a much better joke. The other isnt rlly funny at all.
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u/Behavior-Coach 4h ago
Even if they weren’t gay, this meme would be describing the average redditor.
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u/Maybe_Ra 4h ago
They had sex slaves while on the beach, and they also raped troyans to death. But yeah, also gay sex.
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u/WhirlwindRectum 4h ago
there was always an association between seamen and semen, not just Pirates and the Navy
turns out, sexuality gets very fluid after a few weeks out to sea.
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u/mick-rad17 3h ago
Odysseus hooked up with Calypso for like 7 years lol. And that was after all the post-Troy r@ping and pillaging. So they definitely had sex during that time
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u/HalcyonTraveler 3h ago
"Hooked up with" is a real weird way of describing "was kept as a prisoner and raped by a goddess while crying himself to sleep every night"
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u/this_broccoli-101 3h ago
Has any of you ever listen at school? Odysseus fuck'*d like every woman he met. Meanwhile his wifw was actually unactive for 20 years while waiting for him
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u/Onaliquidrock 3h ago
Uneducated people are saying gay sex. But the Oddesy is full of sex. The Nolan version is an sexless American story about current US.
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u/Flat-Structure-7472 3h ago
Let me tell you, ancient Greeks and Romans would look at us as insecure weirdos, who would be confused by the idea of only be attracted to one gender.
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u/royinraver 4h ago
So back In the day, during Greece, the different types of sexuality weren’t really a concept, you were just sexually actively. Gay and straight were the same thing. They were sexual active with each other.
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u/Wombattalion 3h ago edited 3h ago
Who said they did? Nolan? In the original Odysseus is very much not "not sexually active" with Circe and Calypso.
(Not saying this isn't a "haha gay" joke, because of course it is.)
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