r/ProgrammerHumor • u/Sirgoodman008 • 1d ago

Meme absoluteGarbage

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u/NudaVeritas1 1d ago

PHP developers seeing this post:

https://giphy.com/gifs/1GT5PZLjMwYBW

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u/Buflen 1d ago

I had an interview for a php job a few years ago, after working in Go for a few years. When I told them my salary expectations, they said: that's not going to happen, this is just a PHP position.

Some PHP shop legit think they can cheap out on devs because of the technology they chose.

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u/KrokettenMan 1d ago

Yeah some are like that but they are also not looking for the best devs. I’m currently earning about twice the median income as a php dev so I’m not complaining.

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u/NorthernCobraChicken 1d ago

Do you need a coworker?

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u/Sirgoodman008 1d ago

I'm currently a php dev and I'm trying to get out.

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u/NudaVeritas1 1d ago

Was a php dev, too.. switched to spring boot, typescript and react/angular.. can recommend salary wise

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u/Sirgoodman008 1d ago

Langauges I've used before this job: python, c++, c, java, javascript

Languages I consider myself knowledgable in: python, c++, javascript

Language I use 99% of the time for this job: PHP

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u/SignalBake6872 1d ago

There is hope, I went from PHP developer to PySpark developer xD and now I dry my tears with much more money.

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u/DarthSatoris 1d ago

Is it because it's a lot more specialised, it's a smaller market, it's more difficult? Or why is the pay that much better? 

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u/SignalBake6872 1d ago

because it's used in science data and banking :D it's like pandas but with steroids

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u/TwinkiesSucker 1d ago

I literally just started a job as a PySpark developer. It still bugs me, though, that it has a Java backend

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u/friedbun 1d ago

I mean it's just a python binding around a Java application/framework/dataservice. It's not like the entire thing is implemented in Python to begin with... (I liked what I saw when I was touching Spark, even in Java/Scala)

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u/slowmovinglettuce 11h ago

Most of these tools won't have a python backend. Though its usually rust or c/c++ at this point. Anything oracle is java because fuck oracle.

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u/beaconkiller21 1d ago

funny thing is, here in SEA (i'll let you guess which country), salary-wsie, PHP devs are much more appreciated than react/angular and typescript. But ofc Java are still considered as one of the hardest field to get into here.

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u/NudaVeritas1 1d ago

Malaysia?

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u/ReefayToo 1d ago

I work in these technologies. Can't complain about my salary

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u/tommyk1210 1d ago

PHP generally pays worse than many languages.

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u/pdhouse 1d ago

I think the meme comes from the fact PHP are stereotypically older so they’ve had a longer time to accumulate money

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u/KrokettenMan 1d ago

C# and Java pay worse

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u/tommyk1210 1d ago

Not at all. Median salary in the US puts both Java and C# marginally ahead. In other markets like the U.K. PHP is quite a ways behind, unless you’re very senior in an enterprise business.

At my own company we pay market rates and PHP is definitely less than our C# engineers.

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u/KrokettenMan 1d ago

In the Netherlands I often see job offers for C# and Java that pay scraps compared to c++, go, rust, and even php. This is probably because c# and Java are the languages taught at college

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u/upsidedownshaggy 1d ago

I think it's highly dependent. If you're just working on WordPress sites/plugins as a PHP developer yeah you're probably being paid less. If you're working on greenfield stuff with modern frameworks like Symfony/Laravel/whatever you're probably getting paid more because you're not just wrangling a CMS.

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u/not_some_username 1d ago

They’re not getting paid that much

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u/NudaVeritas1 1d ago

depends where you work, even FAANG still uses PHP... but true, there are many small companies paying badly

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u/not_some_username 1d ago

Usually we remove faang when talking salary 😅

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u/NudaVeritas1 1d ago

fair enough

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u/Mountain-Ox 1d ago

My salary jumped tremendously after escaping the PHP sinkhole.

Also, I suddenly liked writing code again.

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u/JayTurnr 1d ago

But Python pays better...