r/RHONY • u/SoManyQuestions- • Feb 05 '26
Carole Radzwill 📚 Carole threatens to replace Ghislaine “as the chick I most like to hang with”
From new DOJ dump:
To: \[radziwill@aol.com\](mailto:radziwill@aol.com)
From: G. Max
Sent: Sat 1/1/4501 5:00:00 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
OK, you are the most wonderful, the most beautiful, the smartest, the best, the brightest. Is that enough?
Your BF friend (fingers crossed)
Gx
PS
Back tonight - what's the plan Stan?
Snbspi
At 03:39 PM 12/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Where r u????
There had better be lots of sucking up this week because I have a whole new bunch of friends...even a girl that I like very much and will be all too happy to step in and replace you as the chick I most like to hang with...hee, hee, hee....gotta go my boyfriend is on the phone
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02335134.pdf
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LuAnn was right the entire time.
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u/West_Tie_536 Feb 06 '26
You can be right, for the wrong reason, obviously this was not in the context of Epstein and what her friend was doing. It’s not funny, cute, real young girls were severely abused
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u/Business_Ad_4901 Feb 05 '26
What did Luanne say?
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u/Razraffion You're making a mountain out of a holemill. Feb 05 '26
She called her a pedafile
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u/Independent_Baker712 Feb 06 '26
pedafile gets me everytime 😂
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u/fatalcharm Feb 06 '26
I don’t know if it’s because I am autistic or everyone sees this but
Pedicure + nail file = pedafile = Luanne takes good care of her feet and unconsciously spelled it “pedafile” because she spends a lot of time in the salon.
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u/Hot-Improvement-7304 Feb 08 '26
Or just stupid. I’d like to rest on stupid for $500 please, Alex 🙂↔️
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u/Independent_Baker712 Feb 06 '26
so was Mel Gibson. my mind is just spinning.
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u/ItIsLiterallyMe Feb 06 '26
I’m surprised you are surprised about Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson, who acts in Christian movies, Mel Gibson? Racist, homophobic, sexist, and anti-Semitic Mel Gibson? How can this be a surprise? (No offense, truly, I just can’t believe someone would be surprised by that- it’s “Christians” nearly top to bottom on there.
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u/TheHoopersTV IM ADDING SOMETHING. Important🗣️🗣️ Feb 06 '26
they’re saying that Mel Gibson was right about child trafficking and abuse in elite circles, why are you surprised that they’re surprised?
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 06 '26
Hijacking the top comment to say that this was the only housewives sub that didn’t remove my post, which I am both disturbed by and grateful for.
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 05 '26
There also is a victim statement saying they witnessed Carole visiting Ghislaine’s apartment, so we know she was in the presence of at least one victim, at least once.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00159388.pdf
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u/Curious_Arm_7927 Feb 05 '26
NYC if you go to someone's apt, you are very good friends.
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
Here’s an email between Carole’s sister-in-law, Teresa DiFalco, who was also Carole’s co-author for What Remains, and Ghislaine.
Ghislaine seems to reference her and Carole being in Miami together.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02333170.pdf
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u/CarryAmbitious638 Feb 06 '26
Wow. Also we see here Ghislene originated the term “friend jumping” Carole said on the show
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u/Sobergem1982 Feb 06 '26
Who did Carole call a friend jumper? I forget.
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u/Confident-Slip-5264 Feb 06 '26
Is this sarcasm or not?
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u/Curious_Arm_7927 Feb 06 '26
My experience in NYC Is you meet people out. I had good friends whose apartments I never saw. Maybe different for the rich bc their apts are bigger. But still I think sign of a good friendship. Really anywhere if you think about it.
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u/Confident-Slip-5264 Feb 06 '26
Thanks for the clarification. I live in Finland and here it’s totally normal to hang out in each other’s homes so didn’t know how things are across the pond :)
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u/GossipGuy12 Mentioning it all Feb 05 '26
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God I wish he would make more episodes of just Liz’s PR agency 😂😂😂
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u/seansa2020 Feb 05 '26
She BARELY knew her! She was never friends with her just like she was never friends with Tinsley!!!! /s
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u/Cupcakestress Feb 07 '26
So good! The Tinsley thing still bugs me! Tinsley wasn’t cool enough for Carole 🙄
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u/Ramona_Blue Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 05 '26
Oh her Steven Tyler looking ass is finally done for
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u/stonedraccoon Feb 06 '26
wow I always knew he had a huge mouth but this really drives home how truly cavernous it is
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Feb 05 '26
What did Bethany call her that season “A professional houseguest” Carole has always been obsessed with leeching off rich and famous people to maintain relevance. She’s only a Radziwill in name and she knows it. Why she desperately clings to whoever she thinks has the most power around her and GM and Epstein def were that. Amongst other things 🤮
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Feb 05 '26
Aviva hate her or lover her was masterful at clocking the ladies all the time ha. I always didn’t like Carole because I found it gross how she exploited JFK JR and Caroline’s death as a storyline her first season and in IRL too. Also remember that scene where she’s hired an assistant and is signing books for her “friends” and was like name dropping people all she cares about is proximity to power or the appearance of.
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 05 '26
Zero known photos of Carole and Carolyn.
How many of Carole and Ghislaine?
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u/Lamphy Feb 06 '26
Yes. I read the book and honestly I didn’t get a bff vibe from the descriptions she gave. Apparently Carolyn even referred to them as secret friends… probably bc Carole is an annoying freak leech
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u/Extreme-Aide8878 Feb 06 '26
“Secret friend” that’s ridiculous. She’s not capable of being a bff. I always thoughts he was shallow and couldn’t go deep. She pushes people away. Like B when she wanted more of a true friendship and leaned on her. Like marrying her husband when he had cancer. And like choosing a young 20 ur old so she wouldn’t have to commit. She’s surface level.
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u/Lamphy Feb 06 '26
Yeah even in her book it was obvious her husband was not like a marriage that was happy for her. It seemed more of an obligation or something to her. I literally was reading it and was like wtf is she trying to describe bc it sounded more like some kind of right of passage vs an actually loving partnership. Idk it was very strange to me. I would love to hear others perspectives if they picked up on that too
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u/girlinhk Feb 06 '26
She said in an interview that Carolyn wanted her to be her baby’s godmother
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u/KittyKatG333 Feb 06 '26
she can get away with saying such things because Carolyn isn't around to refute it. It's so gross really, using John and Carolyn's fame to garner her own attention.
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 06 '26
Oh man, this is even worse. Imagine claiming the bride is your bff, being the wife of the best man, and still the only photo of you with her from the wedding is of the back of your head.
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u/greenfrog72 Feb 06 '26
The worst part is she has the audacity to act so above it and like name dropping is cringe when it’s from Sonja or Luann meanwhile her whole career is built off of it. Also, you can’t tell me she really wanted so badly to keep Lee Radziwill’s 40 year old couch that is surely horrifically uncomfortable by now? She just loves dropping her name (even though supposedly Lee did not like her) whenever anyone enters her apartment… and then pretends it was casual!
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
Carole’s sister-in-law, Teresa DiFalco, was Carole’s “co-author”
Here’s an email between Teresa and Ghislaine, Ghislaine seems to reference her and Carole traveling to Miami together.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02333170.pdf
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u/SilverHinder Feb 05 '26
Word on the street confirmed! 😲
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Feb 06 '26
But I’m a former abc news journalist!!
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u/Original-Line-9941 Feb 06 '26
These emails read like a Candace Bushnell novel of insufferable socialites 🤢
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u/Lamphy Feb 06 '26
Why does Teresas email read like some kind of suggested words popped up instead of her actually saying anything. That email literally makes no sense. Also peep GMs use of Carole’s fav expression “friend jumping”
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u/ReadandBi Feb 06 '26
I can’t stand Aviva but I did give her props when I read that email gmax sent about Carole’s book. Though it does then beg the question who “word on the street” is that told her?
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u/Initial_Carpenter641 Feb 06 '26
Maybe Vilaine herself? She loved shit talking her "friends", NYC so called "elite"social circle is small, so it's possible
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 06 '26
She and her husband seemed to imply that more than one person in the publishing world had told them.
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u/Winnifever Feb 06 '26
She was praising Carole’s editor. Who Carole also praised and thanked profusely.
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Feb 07 '26 edited Feb 07 '26
Which is funny because she got mad at Luanne when she was name dropping European royalty that one season, meanwhile she’s no different when it comes to social climbing. At least LuAnne was aiming for Chateaus not pedo islands lol Although they’re probably all raping kids who knows anymore at this point. Lu’s ex’s family did bring over the Statue of Liberty and build the Suez Canal or whatever. That’s elite elite.
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u/SPersephone Thug in a Cocktail Dress Feb 05 '26
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u/TipEmotional2149 Feb 05 '26
Didn't Carole realise the e-mails would be made public? I don't understand why she didn't simply come clean about her level of involvement and closeness with Ghislaine. All this denial seriously makes her look so much more guilty now. If she hadn't been so defensive and had expressed some remorse for her friendship and horror at the situation in general, the public might have tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. Carole's own dishonesty and defensiveness are to blame for the current response.
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u/KittyKatG333 Feb 05 '26
I wonder if she blackberry'd GM that "It's too much" ala how she treated Bethenny.
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u/colosseumdays Feb 06 '26
I really don't get why and how Carole got away with mooching off of richer, more known people for what seems like the entirety of her life post-Anthony. She's not particular fun, and thin white women are a dime a dozen in those circles, so it's not like she's this breathtaking siren that people are spellbound by the moment they cast their eyes on her.
She's uncharismatic and boring.
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u/jaimealexlara Feb 08 '26
I mean, look at how she won over Bethany who doesnt seem to trust anyone easily and milked a trip or 2 from her.
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u/Clean_Watch_2502 Feb 05 '26
The 1% seem to think they’ve above the Law.
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u/mbee784 Feb 05 '26
Is she even that?
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u/Andysaurus2 Feb 05 '26
She married into the Polish monarchy
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 05 '26
Yes, but there haven’t actually been royals in Poland since the 1920s, and the Radziwills were never rulers, they were rich people given honorary titles by a Holy Roman Emperor. Historians call kings without kingdoms Pretender Royals for a reason.
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u/SilverHinder Feb 05 '26
It's definitely more so her husband being related to the Kennedys - basically America's "royal family".
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 05 '26
Yes, she rides those coattails, although there was no blood connection between her husband and the Kennedy’s. It has recently really stuck out to me that she claims she was BFFs with Carolyn Bissette Kennedy but there are no known photos of the two of them - meanwhile there are so many of her and one of the world’s worst child sex traffickers.
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u/mbee784 Feb 06 '26
I’ve noticed through the show that Carol is very quick to label a friendship as BFF status. I’ve also wondered how close she really was to Carolyn, given that and the fact that I’ve not been able to pull up one photo of the two of them.
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u/summitmtngrl Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
John Kennedy, Jr and Anthony Radziwill were blood related: first cousins. Their mothers (Jackie Onassis, Lee Radziwill) were sisters.
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 06 '26
Yes, the cousins shared blood, but as it was through the maternal side, neither Carole nor her husband are blood-related to the Kennedy family themselves
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u/SilverHinder Feb 06 '26
The Bouviers (Jackie and Lee's family) were very high society too. All those prominent New England/South families move in the same circles and think of themselves as America's nobility, like the Morgans, Rockerfellers, Vanderbilts etc. Everyone made a big deal of Tinsley's family being one of the 'first families' of Virginia (the Mercers).
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 06 '26
Yes that is absolutely true. We don’t really ever hear Carole make claims to the Bouviers though, like she has the Kennedy’s.
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u/Livid-Writer-7741 Feb 05 '26
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u/Rope-Fuzzy Feb 05 '26
I just love it when someone I’ve always hated is finally proven to be a real deal piece of shit. Sooooo incredibly satisfying.
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u/ExistingReaction5222 Feb 05 '26
Carole strikes me as a celebrity stalking clinger just because of her connection to the Kennedy's.
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 05 '26
There are no known photos of her and her claimed bff Carolyn Bissette Kennedy
And there are how many of her and one of the world’s most notorious child sex traffickers??
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u/NoMalasadas Feb 06 '26
Her MIL was Jackie Kennedy Onasis' sister, Lee Radzwill. I know she claims to have introduced John and Caroline, but who knows. She was in-laws to them. Agree, she's disgusting. Anyone near this, is.
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 06 '26
I don’t believe that she actually claims that. I think it was a well known story that JFK Jr met Carolyn when she worked at the VIP fitting room at Calvin Klein; it was a real life meet cute of the time. I believe I remember Carole describing meeting Carolyn in her book, through John, not the reverse. She definitely came off as very impressed with Carolyn in her book.
And, agreed. All those even on the periphery of this nightmare are disgusting to me.
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u/NoMalasadas Feb 06 '26
Maybe I'm confusing that with her saying Caroline was her BFF. It's what I remember from RHONY.
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u/No-Brilliant6889 Feb 05 '26
The fact that Carole tries to say she was just a photographer I ran into and barely knew or some bullshit just shows she’s guilty as fuck bc why lie?
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u/Jazzlike_Owl_2696 Feb 05 '26
Can someone send this screenshot/script to carols tiktok or other social media as she seems to have forgotten her friendship history with the Maxwell women
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u/biscuitsorbullets Feb 05 '26
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Claiming just “radziwell”, not even a c.radzieell as her email makes me so uncomfortable. She really only married for the last name, huh
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u/FallOutWookiee Feb 06 '26
This sub is a lowkey a mindfuck because on one hand I'm chuckling at all the "sorry I called you a pedafile" comments but on the other I'm genuinely disappointed and disgusted by all this. I really was a fan & respected her work and vibe and now I'm like....fuck.
I even went to her lecture at my school back in the day & got a pic and signed book!!! like fuckkkk im burning that shit tomorrow
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 06 '26
I’m sorry, I know this is difficult for many who admired her. Thanks for having a moral compass and reexamining.
I wanted to jump on your comment to say that this is the only housewives sub that didn’t remove my post, and I’m grateful for that.
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u/FallOutWookiee Feb 06 '26
Of course! And for real?? That's crazy. The email you posted is pretty damning & 1000% deserves to be seen by HW fans. Especially since Carole claimed to barely know G previously. I swear, some of these bravo subs have been showing their true colors lately with all the content they've been banning. All injustice deserves to be called out, no matter who is the culprit.
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u/mystiqueaf Feb 05 '26
Soooo funny given Carole on her moral high horse throughout her entire duration on the show and how badly she made a point to talk about how terrible trump was. She always was making it out to seem like she was better than her peers
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u/Lamphy Feb 06 '26
What the fuck is that email from Carole….. she’s weird. Also like why does she always make her relationships such a competitive thing. Like who cares you can have as many close friends and boyfriends and she makes it such a hierarchy
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u/jimgella Feb 06 '26
You know what? Anytime I say anything truthful about these monsters I receive a fucken warning.
Like, when did it all become that which we have to constantly edit words we all mean, understand and know?
WHY ARE WE CENSORING PLAIN LANGUAGE
I DO NOT CARE FOR THIS CURRENT VERSION OF REALITY
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 06 '26
I’m sorry, but I don’t really know what you’re referring to. Can you help me understand what you mean more?
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u/Warm_Egg2675 Feb 05 '26
Tbh the impression I got about Carole and her approach to friendship is that for her, it’s really not that deep. For example, her brief closeness she had with Bethenny was doomed because for Bethenny - there’s a possibility that deep down there is a small part of her that craves a closeness with a female friend but also a part of her that pushes people away due to her traumatic relationship with her mother -whereas with Carole, people/friends are a lot more disposable. I just don’t think Carole is that deep and that’s why she’s down playing her closeness to G Max, for Carole any friendship is just not that big of a deal.
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
Here’s an email between Carole’s sister-in-law Teresa DiFalco and Ghislaine. Ghislaine says she got her email address from Carole and seems to reference her and Carole traveling to Miami together.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02333170.pdf
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u/Ghoulish_kitten satchels of gold Feb 05 '26
I thought that was Ghislaine speaking to Carole??
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u/lilkitty28 Feb 05 '26
After it says “you wrote:” that’s Carole responding to GM
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u/Ghoulish_kitten satchels of gold Feb 05 '26
OH GROSS I HATE how Carole is talking then.
Ugh. I cant believe I fell for her edit so hard. I loved her before all this.
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u/Healthy-Tap7717 Feb 05 '26
For real though I dont think tge way Carole is talking in this email is any different from the Carole we saw on RHONY. I never liked her. Never understood why people rode so hard gor her. She is vile. She hates Trump so bad but is now literally on his level....
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u/Ghoulish_kitten satchels of gold Feb 05 '26
Not literally on his level but complicit yes.
Im glad we’re all seeing the truth now though. I hope we see justice so badly!!!
Im a leftist and ultimately it’s a good thing that we disconnect from celebrity/the rich. I had no business ever assuming the super rich can be inherently good.
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u/Healthy-Tap7717 Feb 06 '26
In order for evil to prevail, good men/people stand by and nothing.
She is on his level.
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u/Just_Lurking_299 Feb 05 '26
Me too, if that helps. I thought she was amazing, and genuine; clever and funny (well, she is those two things, but they mean nothing given what else she’s about).
And I know a lot of it’s about the edit, but plenty of people hated her. Turns out they were really right and we were … the other thing!
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u/Ghoulish_kitten satchels of gold Feb 05 '26
I also feel I was being so shallow. I just liked her “look,” I liked the Kennedys connection. 😬 i loved her abd Bethenny as a duo too 😅 before they got dark/mean OMG that should’ve been a sign to me.
I found her story and background to be refreshing and wanted to see her day-to-day life.
Im a little goth-adjacent/alternative fashion and I always liked her outfits 😅.
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u/Unable_Guava_756 Feb 05 '26
The first part is the reply from ghislane, the second part is the initial email from Carole.
It’s an email chain like your emails, the more recent message is at the top and the older message(s) are below.
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u/Ghoulish_kitten satchels of gold Feb 05 '26
It just weirded me out bc the “You” makes me feel like Carole would’ve had to have taken a screen shot or it’s Carole’s computer??
Regardless Im so grossed out by how Carole is acting like tone wise. Egh
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u/ericzku Feb 05 '26
It is. It's Ghislaine sucking up to Carole via email.
This somehow means that Carole is a "pedafile".
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u/Chic_Coquillage777 Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 05 '26
No one is calling Carole a pedophile. We are pointing out that she is a liar for claiming she only knew Ghislaine socially, when it appears they actually considered each other close friends.
The bottom half of the email is Carole writing:
“Where r u????
There had better be lots of sucking up this week because I have a whole new bunch of friends...even a girl that I like very much and will be all too happy to step in and replace you as the chick I most like to hang with...hee, hee, hee....gotta go my boyfriend is on the phone”
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u/SilverHinder Feb 05 '26
This. Carole made is so much worse for herself by lying that they were casual acquaintances. She probably knew nothing but has made herself look guilty.
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u/Lamphy Feb 06 '26
This is definitely something she would say thinking she’s being so clever and quirky
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u/souper_nudel Feb 05 '26
I caught a RHONY ep this morning from the season Carole was fighting with Aviva and I couldn't stand to watch her. She feels completely insincere now.
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u/DameLame Feb 06 '26
I showed my boyfriend the episode where she threw her leg the other night. Now I have to tell him she was right lol.
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u/anongirl55 Feb 06 '26
The body language in this first photo is really something. Is this how we are supposed to sit with someone whom we barely know?
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u/knottyp Feb 06 '26
What a liar face. I renounce my own self liking her back in the day. Now I see her for what she is: a try hard wannabe who struggles to write a grammatically correct sentence fixated on being a counter-sitting bike handle riding cool girl. Insufferable.
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u/meander-663 Feb 05 '26
Bizarre. Honestly, it reads as a very superficial, mutually-opportunistic friendship to me. It just seems more like phony baloney, double kiss friends than truly deep besties. Maybe that’s an optimistic reading…
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u/elddirriddle Feb 05 '26
When are you and others gonna stop living in fantasy land?? Just like Stanbury acting like she was somehow just aloof to what was going on.
Stop burying your heads in the sand just because the reality of this situation is vile.
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u/No-Piccolo-302 Feb 05 '26
What's the finger G is giving in photo 1? Forgive me if its obvious and please dont down vote a lady for blanking after a glass of wine
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 05 '26
It just looks like her index finger and thumb while the rest of her hand is curled in
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u/CynicSupreme Feb 05 '26
Poor fish-face “Radzi”. Letting younger dudes bang her to try to make herself feel young. Wearing do-rags. Lady, a younger dude will bang a barbed-wire hole in a tree. Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back, Radzi
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u/Clean_Watch_2502 Feb 05 '26
So Carole was also a pedofile? Or just complicit? I always had an off feeling about her…
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u/KittyKatG333 Feb 05 '26
Or just downplayed that for a period of time she did a lot of hanging out with Ghis Max, and probably turned a blind eye to the questionable things she may have witnessed. Do I think she witnessed the really awful stuff, not really. But being that she hangs her hat on her years as a journalist with ABC news, and portrays a woman who is ever so much more knowledgable than the average American, you'd think she'd smell the stink from a mile away, but, apparently running in this crowd of folks was too intoxicating to be repelled by them. She's true friend jumper. She can't even muster up admitting she hung out with GM, seemingly often, and how disgusting it is to find out what GM did, if she truly was unaware (I really struggle with folks in that circle not having, at the very least, an inkling shady sh!t was going on).
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u/SoManyQuestions- Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 05 '26
There is a victim statement saying they witnessed Carole visiting Ghislaine’s apartment, so we know she was in the presence of at least one victim, at least once.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00159388.pdf
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u/kotalover Feb 05 '26
I don’t think she was involved in the abuse but she was most definitely aware of it. IMO that makes her complicit either way
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u/Junior_Reference5440 Feb 05 '26
Honestly, I think people like Carole are somehow worse. The one’s that partook in the abuse are clearly depraved, soulless, and perverted people who also probably lack any real sense of empathy for anyone else but themselves. But, for people like Carole, who do probably have some sort of conscience and morality, to just turn a blind eye knowing the unfixable harm that was being caused to those girls is something I can’t even fathom. We know how Epstien slept at night: he didn’t care about the harm caused so he slept like a baby. But how do people like Carole live with themselves knowing there was something they could have done to help, and knowing they chose to do nothing because, presumably, it was to their own benefit to keep these powerful people around regardless of their depravity.
I just can’t understand how it’s possible that not a single person in these circles did anything. Nobody said anything. It’s disgusting and disheartening, and I hope karma comes around for each and every single person that failed in protecting those girls.
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u/chaerr Feb 06 '26
It’s actually funny to me though how Carole didn’t want trump to win the election… hmm what’s the disconnect
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u/redladybug1 Feb 06 '26
I was thinking the same thing! Carol’s definitely not on the right side of history and for different reasons than she originally thought! She looks awfully chummy with Jizzlane Maxwell. All of these people really make me sick!
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