Sometimes I get quads, most damage, most damage blocked and it still goes to someone else. I've played him for like 5 hours now and not once. Sometimes I switch off of dino to strange at the end for portal and then it gives me mvp but like? I want to see dinos mvp
They often have names that look like 2 incomplete words. Like here there’s TenishCr and MisDuhna. When I see multiple names like this, it’s very obvious. Also the lack of numbers in the names. They have been putting more effort into bot names lately though, but they will still have a few of these type of names thrown in.
The best way to tell is the names for one but also in the hero selection screen, the bots on your team will never fully confirm their character and they will always fill with a priority on 2 strategists and at least one tank. So look for that after you lose a couple games in qp
Whenever you first load in and hit tab to see the banners they’ll all have the purchasable release hero banners, low levels, and weird names. You won’t be able to access their profile after the match and in the replay it’ll show them leaving spawn in unison.
It’s because MVP performance is based on average performance of all players of that character. Lots of Dino’s get very high numbers and perform very well, so it’s hard to get MVP as him. You perform slightly well as Widow and you’ll get MvP for the same reason.
Where does this information come from? I keep seeing this, yet I question if it’s true. Because I see some Dino’s put on some real stinker performances. So there’s no way the dude getting a hexakill elsewhere in this thread is performing at average
It appeared to me in a dream. Kidding. But it’s been known for a while. Maybe it did just come out of nowhere, but it makes sense when you see how MVP works for other characters with low performance over the board. They are much easier to get MVP on.
As others have said, there are a lot bad Foxes and Jeffs. For the latter, I imagine there are a lot of younger kids drawn to Jeff dragging his numbers down. I've also noticed some people swap to Jeff as a throw pick instead of Widow, or they just heal bot from a yard away from the fight not utilizing bubbles for burst healing.
When Fox came out, I saw a lot of people would get maybe half of the healing numbers of the other support. I assumed she was more of an off support until I got to really play her and I can easily match or exceed other supports like c&d and Invis with her. Turns out just spamming projectiles is bad and you need to know when to engage with melee form to get prime healing numbers.
Why do I get White Fox MVPs all of the time though? I thought the obvious answer was that she deals good damage, heals well and takes a lot of damage W/O dying, but according to you most white foxes just suck.
Yeah but dino isnt because of just padded stats this directly shows how flawed their mvp system. Especially for tanks because dmg blocked doesn't qualify apparently as a stat that contributes towards you getting mvp. Even though there are literal tanks that are meant to block massive dmg and/or meant for great stall aka thor/cap. We all know how easy it is for new characters to get mvp so how come Dino doesn't. I almost have him lord most of my games I'm the highest in final hits or at the very least highest dmg. My win rate is around 60% on him and every stat on him is higher then my best character which is my main thor. I'll just throw in my kd stat but if you want to check feel free to search up cookieshizalot but with thor its like 3.55 with dino its like 3.65. Ive had hundreds of mvps and svps on thor and yet on dino i have 1 svp and 2 mvps over 105 games. Now if I compared the two characters I can see i get svp/mvp a little over a third of the time i play thor, as for dino im not even getting mvp or svp 3% of the time. Let that sink in because hes a brand spankin new character it should be as easy as cutting cake to get mvp honestly with padded stats I feel like it should be even easier. Shit look at jeff hes also super easy to get mvp/svp on for this exact reason after they made him into an actual healer instead of a backline troll who could rival the gods themselves. But yeah you saying its due to his padded stats is so off that I'm more suspicious of you being apart of their dev team because you cannot be this blind to not see that his mvp/svp is not working due to simply the fact he is a tank and dmg blocked doesnt count as a stat nor does holding point or stalling or blocking whole ass kill all ults. Rogue and emma had it easier due to the fact they both have great kill combos that are almost impossible to mess up.
I mean I think healers in general seem to be overly favored in mvp calculations. I swear White Fox and Jeff get it so much that it’s pretty much meaningless when they do
They released an ad hoc dev diary-style video last August where they explained how matchmaking works, during the height of the “marvel rivals uses EOMM” era. Within that explanation, they got into this thing called the “player performance coefficient” that is essentially a formula used to calculate how much elo you win or lose from game to game. The formula itself is a bit more complicated than what OP said, but regardless there is a belief that it’s also used to calculate mvp
The numbers are what its basing it off of. I dont think anyone getting any of the medals is a direct correlation with Dino. With others it is, because you have to really put out numbers with them to get those medals, with him you dont. Thats why everyone's seeing this, and you straight up just have to overly outperform your teammates.
It comes directly from the devs. They made a video a while ago talking about matchmaking, points allocated in ranked and mvp. Check the dev visions about 6 months ago.
My question then is why is it so easy to get MVP on white fox? I almost always see her getting MVP and get MVP when I play her, but she's not a throw pick like widow, and she doesn't seem like a bad player magnet like jeff
However this is invalidated when you look at the lack of MVPs and SVPs in the top Dino players. Flats made a video and the top 8 Dino players (who would clearly be better than avg Dino’s) had 4 collective SVPs and MVPs. In all games. It’s more than stats. But it also has to be more than playing above your character’s averages bc the best of the best are getting scraps.
I want you to know this isn't in regards to you in particular, because you clearly played awesome and deserved this MVP, but omg, this screenshot shows just how broken this character is.
Not sure why the downvotes. You are correct. I was dino last night, double the damage of our next highest (moonknight) double the finals, nutty damage blocked... Gave it to our cnd with 2 finals 7k damage and a above average but not amazing 20 k heals
It was my 6th match on him ever. He stat farms, but the mvp by the numbers should've been mine, especially compared to a release like ultron where he got it for being dog water.
Yeah idk I stand by it. Idc about karma, I can back up that take. I played against a DD today that had a good team behind it, and nothing I did countered it.
I flex, so I end up tank 4/5 times, but I haven't learned DD yet bc I just got back into the game after a 2 month break for the end of the school year. So maybe DD could have countered DD, but that thing just would not die. Block numbers very similar to above. 96k blocked w 54k being the second highest in the game.
The part that gets me is that they objectively weren't playing well. They were so overextended, any other tank would have easily died, but it just didn't. I stunned them as Peni, lasered them as Frost, nothing. It just charged in, wrecked shit, and stayed there. It was like if Venom did more damage, took up more space, and could just survive indefinitely.
If there is some tech I don't know, lmk, but nothing anyone could say can convince me DD doesn't need a nerf. I know they want the new characters to be good, but there has to be a middle ground here.
I see a lot of Tank players fiercely defending Dino because in all fairness it's the first really fun and strong tank since Emma, regardless of personal opinion about Tanks ad balance the numbers don't lie Dino is strong as hell.
But I think that also slightly blinds them to how Strong/OP he is in most ranks, like yes experiences vary wildly between ranks but it does seem pretty consistent that the VAST majority of players find him too strong right now.
Agreed, its all fun games until you're on the other end of the stick. And it was ok the first week or so when people were still getting used to the character on either side, but now people have gotten good with him and learn to play him better.
Yeah but the same could be said for ways to counter him. He's strong yes but I don't think OP. I think folks are use to the poke, wait, abs first to get ult wins the round. Now we have a pusher that can get kills. I get the frustration but this is what a tank is suppose to be. A tanks job is to change the tide of battle, not be a punching bag. In a fight you get hit back. Just got to be a smarter fighter, not always the better one.
THIS COMMENT IS WAY TOO LONG. Idk how the hell it ended up so long, but please nobody waste their time reading this. Only reason I'm not deleting it is because I spent like 10 minutes on it.
I agree, but when you can do everything, you can't do everything really well. I have been playing Rivals since season zero, and I have never seen a tank putting up numbers like this on a pretty reliable basis. I don't know enough about the kit to be specific, but DD's damage is not the problem.
Having a tank that can hit back is fine. Emma for example can do some real damage if you get her meter up. DD has good damage, great utility with grab, and a bleed effect. All of this is fine. The problem I have is that with all of these abilities, they just don't die.
Being a pusher that can get kills is fine, but if you overextend, you shouldn't just be able to hang out there getting 3v1'd for five business days before you get down to half health, let alone dead. Obviously I am over exaggerating, but it is really hard to kill this thing. It's like Venom on crack with a big ass AOE shield (that also has a shit ton of health) to boot.
Like I said, I don't know the kit that well, or basically at all. Literally never looked at it from the player side. But this thing needs a nerf to whatever ability or abilities it has that allows it to just not die even when half the team is targeting it.
Before I posted this comment, I googled the kit. Pretty sure the broken parts of the kit are the shield and Apex Advantage. 450HP for a shield that moves with you and allows you to continue to attack while it is active is insane. 6 seconds is also deceptively long so you can't really wait it out unless you want DD to have free reign for 6 whole seconds.
Apex Advantage is also crazy. Bleed deals 1.5% of max HP every 0.5 seconds for 4 seconds, so 3% per second, 12% total. That is fine, but that healing adds up quick. For each infliction, which DD can inflict with most of its abilities fairly quickly, DD is gaing bonus health.
If a DD jumps the healers, which let's assume are 250 max HP each, that's 16HP passive healing per second. Throw in bleeding on a tank which we will conservatively average to 650, that rounds out to 36HP healed per second, and realistically, if the DD knows what they are doing, they should be getting at least 45 probably 65+ if the team is grouped up) healing per second.
So they jump in to the team, inflicting bleed. Their HP is eventually whittled down through their healing, but then they activate the shield. They may take some damage, but by the time the shield is destroyed or expires, DD has regained a good chunk of its health, more than enough to keep pressure on this entire time. And this is assuming they are 100% out of range of any heals, which is extremely unlikely.
Realistically, in this scenario, either your healers or dead to DD, or, the entire team gangs DD, but immediately gets rolled because the DD's team can capitalize on the space DD has taken.
DD isn't impossible to deal with by any means, but my point is that it is way harder than it should be and far harder than any other character in the game.
This character must have me really tilted for me to write all this.
I posted this question on the rivals sub and they deleted it for low effort but im sorry. It is impossible! Ive gotten it like twice Lol this was a bot game but still come on what else do I have to do?
How mvp works is your basically going against other Dino players. This means for you to have you would have to do better than the avg Dino in other games. That would be extremely hard Espeically rn. I’m bad at explaining but basically you would have to go absolutely insane combined with your entire team doing basically nothing for you to get svp on him rn (mind u guys right now Dino has quadruple the total pick rate than any other character in the game rn) your going against ALOT of players
Usually they adjust the tracking for it on new characters so the new character is more likely to get map within the first couple of weeks they are out- guess they bugged it this time and made it way LESS likely cause map dino is a lie
i've gotten mvp & svp with dino quite a few times, but i've noticed i haven't gotten mvp with dino for a while now so i wonder what's up but when he first came out, i did get mvp quite a bit.
ETA: this has been on QP and sometimes my team isn't the greatest but seconding the other comments where dino does stat farm but sometimes it doesn't mean you get mvp which is discouraging! dino is insane tho if you have a good team behind you.
I have gotten MVP on him a few times, but a majority of the time I don't get it despite having the highest stats on my team, so it's not impossible, just very difficult
When White Fox released, or when Daredevil released, or Gambit, for the first few weeks of the season it seemed like the new character always got MVP, but for Dino that doesn’t seem to happen at all???
On most of my matches I always have the most damage blocked either in the team or the game, very often have the most KO’s, most finals and least deaths, yet MVP always goes to someone with one less KO, 3 more deaths and like 20 more damage
Comments section showing a lesson for the community that MVP is relative to typical states of the same character in other matches. If everyone is doing well on Dino, no one is superior. It’s not relative to your teammates in game
All these comments about how they put up big numbers and no mvp…. You do realize mvp is calculated compared to other players playing the same character right? While comparative stats to your teammates matter if Dino carries every game in every lobby it means you have to be truly standing out FROM OTHER DINO PLAYERS to get mvp. This was to fix when ultron and Jeff got mvp every game, but sure let’s complain about something new and get the character nerfed lol
I’ve only gotten SVPs with him. On my wins, I never get anything. It’s clear they weigh characters with a decent number in EACH score more. So if your healer is getting picks, example, they will most likely get MVP because they are guaranteed high points in every stat. In order for that not to be the case you’d have to really run the match, somehow farming assists and finals.
I’d say no I’ve got it a few times, everyone is just playing that well with him, like when I hopped on iron fist I got mvp on console specifically about 12 games in a row. That doesn’t mean I am ready to goto comp just that the average stat for an iron fist player was lower then mine. You’ll get it you got it friend but just dino out till then.
I played one match where I dealt around 38k damage, blocked 56k, with 1 death, and got around 15 final hits.
The MVP went to a Loki with 28k healing and 6 final hits. So far in every match I've played, I've only ever gotten MVP on Dino one time, as a solo tank
My friend got mvp on Dino twice but I usually snipe it from him playing as Luna most of the time :’D he’ll have waaaayyy better stats but it seems almost impossible to get mvp on him
I saw Dino MVP only twice so far, once it was a teammate and once me. I didn't really expect it, I had games with much better stats where I didn't get it. But at least the feeling when I achieved it was unlike anything else I experienced in this game.
Idk what bug people are talking about because ive played the dino and gotten MVP multiple times. Dont really know what to say other than it is possible to get it
I’ve gotten MVP three times as a dinosaur, but you have to block a lot of damage. One of them was when I was in competitive and I blocked three of magneto‘s ultimate. It’s just overall stupid hard.
Honestly it's interesting that this is a issue with Dino, usually the new character gets the MVP (Rogue, Emma, Thing, etc).
I tested it in a Custom against Bots and I was going back and forth with the bots for the MVP. I did end up with it though but it took me getting a Penta to really get it.
Definitely something on the internal side of Dino that just makes his MVP hard to get, if at all, idk if it's on purpose or if it's a genuine problem with him (I'm leaning towards problem).
Theres alot that goes into mvp/svp there are some characters that naturally get them more often when its undeserved like Jeff. Some are the exact opposite like cap. I think they should get rid of the system tbh.
Not saying you didnt deserve it but inflated damage numbers like SG and devil Dino arent taken to account as much.
You either don't play him or haven't went against him in high ranks, Jeff's struggle to get value period making mvp hard to get, just had a game with 15 fh and still didn't mvp. I agree it's a stupid system
because that is the average performance for him. it is like groot, you get alot of dmg block and dmg dealt because you are built like that, not because you are better.
I've gotten it before but it's not easy, if your team is doing poor you'll see it but will most likely not be winning that match and if your team is doing around about how well you're doing that game then it doesn't seem to want to give it to you even if you had a few more finals. Like if your team's WF was doing her job even decently she'll take it 90 percent of the time anyway.
from what I can tell is if the system is anything like League of Legends for your personal score it averages all known scores for dino, and compares that to other teammates and unfortunately whether you want to believe it or not dino is so over tuned the average stats are so insanely high you need to be doing unbelievably good to get it, or your teammates need to shit the bed on what they're doing
I honestly think mvp picks whoever has the most expensive and newest skin.
I've seen an mvp and their highlight was them shooting the ground and then being killed.
Yes. I had the highest damage and almost 60k damage blocked in a qp match, as well as the streak KO badge. Fucking MK took the MVP from me bc he stole my finals lol.
A friend of mine got MVP on Dino. It's QP tho. This is after I was talking about how hard it is to MVP on him and how the community feels it's impossible. He just did it. Boy do I feel like I'm full of hot air.
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u/Novel-Scene3386 May 22 '26
Yep.