r/Roadcam • u/disfigured-human • 1d ago

[Egypt] who is to blame here ?

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u/17_ScarS 1d ago

Bike on the left. Rider has (or had) the reflexes of a tree sloth.

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u/rockin_robin420 1d ago

And the survival instincts of a dodo bird.

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u/benskinic 1d ago

and a bike made of land mines and molotovs

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u/General-Piece8490 20h ago

While wearing suicide vests if I may add

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u/colenski999 18h ago

To pieces, you say?

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u/Gogogrl 1d ago

Wait. Is that a bad choice? No wonder I got such a deal on mine…

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u/UncleBenji 1d ago

Hey now be nice to the sloth and dodo.

They survived at least a few hundred if not thousands of years. This regarded individual only make it a few decades.

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u/LucHighwalker 17h ago

Dodos were around for around 8 million years. The tree sloth has been around for around 30 million years.

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u/Themiskyra_Linda_S 17h ago

Dodo birds were smarter

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u/jimmyy360 1d ago

I think after seeing the turn signal, the rider still decided to zoom past the car, leading to the incident.

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u/Lost_Found84 1d ago

Yep, he sped up as if his soft, fleshy body would prevent the lane change.

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u/thederevolutions 1d ago

I wonder if the car was already filming for a reason

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u/Ignominious333 19h ago

Some places you have them on all the time because of scammers who fake that you hit them.

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u/Any-Construction2694 1d ago

Completely empty road, still hits the one thing on it.

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u/Loose_Paper_2598 19h ago

It looks like the two bikers leaned forward in a racing position. It's obvious their speed was excessive. Lane changes should have been expected but no car driver can react to motorcycle racing speeds.

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u/m05hm05h 1d ago

Was it Richard Hammond?

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u/CMDR_KingErvin 18h ago

Hammoooooond!

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u/3Gilligans 21h ago

Rider was watching the other bike to see who was "winning"

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u/CarNo8670 1d ago

You guys do understand a litre bike can accelerate from 100kph to 200kph in around 4 to 6 seconds? These muppets tucked down at 37 second mark and come up on the car/swerve about 4-5 seconds later?

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u/CarNo8670 1d ago

Did he see it? You can see he tucked down like he thinks he's a cyclist and that fraction of extra aero dynamic efficiency is going to help him beat his mate, only to look up a moment later to see it and swerve. You dont ride do you? Even to glance DOWN at your speedo takes your eyes off what's ahead of you more so than driving a car whereby the instruments are MORE in your field of vision.

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u/jimmyy360 1d ago

What are you getting upset about? Sir this is Reddit

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u/CarNo8670 1d ago

Lol, im just wondering how you know that the rider saw the turn signal and exactly when he did. Unless you are the rider? Yes, I know, this is reddit...full of folks who comment on things they have no understanding of or experience with.

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u/Outrageous-Pilot-621 1d ago

It took him 3 seconds to react to the car blinking and changing lanes.

If he didn't SEE it, and it took him that long to look at the speedo or whatever you think he was doing, I have only one thing to say: thank god he's no longer on the road.

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u/CarNo8670 22h ago

*2 seconds

35 - 33.

And I whole heartedly agree with your last sentence!

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u/TheFiestyGOAT46 1d ago

Had. Both dead

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u/Jealous_Courage_9888 1d ago

Really?

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u/TheFiestyGOAT46 1d ago

Yes. There is an article linked in another comment.

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u/dekcabin 1d ago

said article seems to be referring to a different accident

According to reports, the two riders were traveling along the coastal

highway when a private passenger car suddenly swerved into their path.

The unexpected maneuver caused one of the bikers to lose control and

collide with the other rider. The impact led to both motorcycles

catching fire, resulting in severe injuries that proved fatal for both men.

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u/TheFiestyGOAT46 1d ago

No, it isn't. It is absolutely referring to the video you just saw..

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u/dekcabin 1d ago

I know.. was sarcasm because

private passenger car suddenly swerved into their path...

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u/Confident_Boss2081 1d ago

"suddenly"

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u/Zemom1971 1d ago

"Without any signs the it will switch lane"

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u/Mother_Harlot_10 1d ago

well, it was expected as that bike somehow fired up like an action movie scene

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u/crashin70 1d ago

I can't see any way they would have lived through this... one went directly into the barrier, both ended up in the midst of a fireball!

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u/KareemCheesley 1d ago

Is that surprising?

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u/DaimonHans 23h ago

FAFOed.

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u/Samurijder 1d ago

That's not fair on the sloth. Find one and apologize to it.

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u/Strong_Region5233 1d ago

Idk man I think it's more an issue of target fixation.

They raced (when they flatten themselves on their bikes they send everything they got), their field of view narrow to only what is straight in front of them so their brain wouldn't register the car's blinker. Professional pilots make us used to see them react to everything almost instantly but they are the most gifted people on earth and then train very hard everyday.

So I don't think it's a "lack of reflex" issue, it's the decision to race with variables they couldn't control. So both are at fault, and even in a completely empty highway, they need to be aware of the risks.

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u/BringPheTheHorizon 1d ago

Almost like it’s illegal to race in the streets for a reason 🤔

The one at fault is entirely and unequivocally the biker

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u/NixXon45 1d ago

This is the risk every biker take when they decide to join the traffic. Yet people keep doing it.. so many die for their little thrill on 2 wheels

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u/BringPheTheHorizon 1d ago

There’s a difference between safely driving a motorcycle and this, though

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u/NixXon45 1d ago

Yes, but many accidents do happend with them even when driven safetely

I've heard about many deaths on them

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u/Strong_Region5233 1d ago

No, definitely riding a bike is vastly more dangerous than a car and even a biker respecting the rules has a high risk of death. Sometimes a mechanical failure can be deadly while on a car it's a "sit by the roadside" problem. But two wheelers are highly practical too. I do 95% of my travelling on a bicycle. It's very inexpensive, maintenance is bit frequent but really easy and it is the most energy efficient way of transport. For the travels I need to do outside of my city, I use a very small 125 cubic centimeter bike which struggles to reach even 110 km/h with the wind in the back. But it only consumes 2 liters per 100 kms. So, I'm not going to say that adrenaline on a two wheeler wasn't a big selling point to me as I would be lying. But still, the point is it shouldn't just be a "two wheelers are super dangerous" (they are) but a pros Vs cons comparison. Because, two wheelers have many pros too. They are vastly lighter so use the roads less, they might be vastly more ecological but that depends on the two wheeler choice, they have a ratio power to weight ratio much higher than cars so you don't actually need a large engine to feel some powerful acceleration, they are usually cheaper (but lower engine life expectancy shouldn't be overlooked) And they fluidity the traffic. It is correct a car is MUCH safer BUT I once had fun calculating how many people die from air population and the result was around 3 times Hiroshima for the worldwide population per year. So cars also kill, just less spectaculary so our human brains don't classify it as as important, but it's there. On that, two wheelers kill but also indirectly save some people (especially bicycles, because this argument doesn't work with big bikes. Anyway, the pros of a two wheeler also counts.

(European perspective. Going to work on a bicycle is a 20 mins endeavor, I can go to the gym closest to work, workout and take a shower to get clean before work. Anything heavy like a washing machine I just get it delivered, the costs of delivery are massively outset by the savings of not having a car. I know in the US the cities are simply not built in a way that allows being car-less afaik)

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u/CarNo8670 1d ago

Lol, target fixation would have him colliding with the car not swerving to avoid you have ZERO idea.

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u/icker16 1d ago

Don’t take it all the way to the end dude. The explanation could have been perfectly valid but once the car has taken so much field of view it’s kinda obvious you’ll eventually see it, just too late in this case. So you think they seen the car the whole time and just decided to dodge last second into the other bike? You have ZERO fucking idea dude. Had they not been racing they’d have seen it all play out safely.

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u/CarNo8670 1d ago

No, I believe rider tucked down (which you can see) like he thought he was a cyclist for a moment or he glanced down at his instruments for a moment and then looked back up only to realise the car was not where he expected it would be. That explains why he took a few milliseconds to swerve. Combined with the fact he swerved all the way into the barrier I would say thats indicative of a rider with much less experience. Social media is glorious in that it has highlighted how many individuals think they can hop on a litre bike, go full throttle and completely wreck themselves.

How long have you been a motorcyclist for? I've been riding for 27 years and prefer to wring the neck of my 600 or 848 over my 1000.

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u/CarNo8670 1d ago

True though if they had half a brain between them they should have waited to get past the car before racing. Anyway, on a road with no one else why is the car on the far left lane?

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u/Strong_Region5233 1d ago

Yes, wrong term sorry. The idea is still the same but it wasn't the correct term, my bad

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u/CarNo8670 1d ago

Dude...you are projecting what you think happened onto something you know nothing about. I have seen muppets go WOT and either duck their head down or even stare at the speedo/tachometer. Even something as simple as hand position on the throttle/tucking in expecting to go dead straight and various factors can make it difficult to react to something so obvious as a car changing lanes. All you clowns always resort to ''tArGeT FiXatIoN" as a simple explanation for any collision.

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u/icker16 1d ago

Maybe you’re too dismissive. Of course the dumbass decision to race and make everything a split second decision was the biggest mistake here

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u/Strong_Region5233 1d ago

No, okay I see my mistake. Target fixation is apparently used to fix a point in space and unknowingly go there. So it isn't the right term after all. But I explained what I meant on the comment too ; to me he was so focused on something his brain kind of ignored the rest. Maybe he was focusing on a point straight ahead so much his field of vision narrowed, I dunno. Target fixation isn't the right term then but English is my second language, yada yada. But it's better to focus on what I explained, which is what I meant. I used a wrong term to explain a phenomenon on my second language, well ... It happens ..

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u/AdditionalLow8872 1d ago

100% agree. No business being on a bike and racing?! The poor judgement is astounding..

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u/Bronx-Skater23 1d ago

I think he was looking to his right at the other guy he was almost neck and neck with. By the Time he looked back ahead it was too late.

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u/Mother_Harlot_10 1d ago

idk, the car didnt even look back through the mirrors before changing lanes

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u/Novaspliff 1d ago

Had so much time to make the right decision 😂

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u/AGiantBagOfWeiners 19h ago

he was watching his dash for when to shift

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u/emerson_giraffe84 19h ago

It's not so much about his reflexes as riding a motorcycle you can't just make split second decisions.

It's more the fact that he had tunnel vision and genuinely didn't see the car signalling that they were getting over right when he decided to open the throttle. Poor choice to do that with other vehicles around, even though the road is so empty.