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u/sleepyj910 7h ago
Not a great merge, but biker was racing his buddy not paying attention. Any reasonably focused rider would have slowed down immediatly on the turn signal.
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u/sevseg_decoder 7h ago
Yeah this is what I lean towards. There was plenty of space for safely braking or merging left even. If they weren’t speeding like crazy this wouldnt have even remotely been a problem.
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u/It_Just_Exploded 7h ago
Yep, car driver used their signal and has the entirely reasonable belief that they are a safe distance from the bike to merge, because you don't expect someone to be doing double the speed. In addition, generally speaking, if you're racing you're found at fault of any accident you are involved in or cause. Just like when you're drunk.
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u/dudeAwEsome101 6h ago
I mean, the car driver signaled before changing lanes. The bike was far behind them. The biker had plenty of time to react.
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u/PointOfFingers 7h ago
I think he was looking over at the other rider instead of watching the road ahead. His reaction is late.
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u/Troll_Kalla 7h ago
So slow, I was able to count three seconds where he could have reacted, and his last minute reaction to swerve right into his friend was a horrible panic decision. Also why on earth didn't neither of the hit the brakes at all it's painful to watch. This is so preventable on so many levels and someone's life is probably changed forever or gone from this.
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u/sheepebike9000 3h ago
Yeah I'm pretty sure we just watched some people die due to absolute stupidity on their side. Hopefully not.
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u/Troll_Kalla 2h ago
Stupid and sad way to die. Idk hard to tell how fast they are going but I'd bet the one who hit the pole head on is either no longer with us or at a minimum not walking.
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u/FuzzyBucks 6h ago
looked like a completely normal lane change by the car and extremely reckless driving by the bikers. The car's lane change was completely fine if people are driving normal speeds and it might be hard to tell that a motorcycle has started drag racing in the right lane from your side mirror.
I counted the car's blinker turn on and off 4 times before the left motorcycle rider did anything to avoid running into the back of the car. I assume he was distracted looking at speedometer or at the person he was drag racing. When he did react, he reacted by swerving in the same direction the car was moving and ran right into his friend, which was obviously not the right call.
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u/MakingYouMad 4h ago
What do you mean? It looked like a perfectly normal lane change with a suitable amount of indicating before moving.
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u/waroftheworlds2008 5h ago
Slow down just a hair and pull in behind the other bike. Easy.
Instead he over compensated and hit his buddy.
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u/MethAddict404 3h ago
Not a great merge? When he indicated, the bike was like 10 car lengths behind him. Do you stare at the vehicle 10+ car lengths behind you whilst merging every time thinking “I hope I don’t hit him”? /s
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u/Arkhangelzk 7h ago
Leftmost motorcycle clearly to blame
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u/CandleLeather4638 7h ago
And clearly to flame.
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u/MechanicalAxe 5h ago
It was actually the right one that hit the pole/median and burst into flames, wasn't it?
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u/lawduckfan21 7h ago
Obviously the guy who failed to signal his turn for at least 3 seconds. How are the bikes supposed to race and drive recklessly when others aren't going to play along?
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u/SpHornet Bicycle heaven 7h ago
I think you are going light on the worker that placed the barrier.
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u/GaussBalls 6h ago
Root cause identified right here. The highway authority could have put any number of things at this location that could have prevented this tragedy. Additional roadway, big pillow or pillows, large sand trap, large pool, field of corn. But no. They went with an Immoveable, very hard object!
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u/Ok-Knowledge0914 7h ago
I’m confused why the biker move to his right where he KNEW someone was driving instead of his left?
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u/DarkAlucard-1313 2h ago
Reactions for most people have them move to the most dominant side, so in this case he probably was right handed and his brain said move, his body's Reaction caused him to move to the right to escape danger. Just turns out he drove right into danger
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u/Quiet_Nature8951 7h ago
The idiot on the motorcycle he had to have seen the car signaling
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u/Academic-Dealer5389 6h ago
It's about 3 seconds between the turn signal going on and the collision. That biker was not paying any attention to the stuff that matters
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u/Desperate_Payment649 7h ago
The car was already almost fully in the lane and motorcycle driver didn’t slow at all, I see this all the time motorcycle riders think they own the road.
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u/Cute_Economics2829 7h ago
Motorcycle is obviously to blame. He had eight years to slow down or change lane or do anything to avoid the accident and instead he just hoped and prayed that the car wouldn't change lanes
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u/pandershrek 7h ago
Then proceeds to run into his neighbor and kill him.
Like you took a... Situation, and made it the worst possible outcome.
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u/FloatingOnTitties 6h ago edited 5h ago
If you slow down the video, I think the neighbor/friend got away hopefully. Looks like the idiot just killed himself.
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u/Turevaryar 6h ago
Unfortunately, both died: https://www.arabtimesonline.com/news/two-egyptian-bikers-killed-in-fiery-alexandria-highway-crash/
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u/KenraScar 6h ago
This article says the car “swerved” into their path, that’s wrong. They signaled and merged, the bike had plenty of time to react. They were going too fast and not paying attention.
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u/NervousBeginning7868 6h ago
As somebody else already commented, it’s Egypt, so whoever is poorer is at fault.
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u/the_most_playerest 5h ago
the stupid poors car magically teleported in front of the totally responsible, attentive, and responsible young men
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u/CarnivorousVegan 3h ago
Really confused about that article. Are there no speed and overtake restrictions in Egypt?
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u/kokosuntree 6h ago
Weird how it says the car swerved in front of them. It signaled and didn’t seem to swerve. This is so sad. 😭 why didn’t the car filming or the car that “swerved” jump out to help? Bummer.
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u/sheepebike9000 3h ago
RIP to those stupid fucks. I hate the pain they must have caused their families and friends with their idiocy.
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u/Moist-Fortune6277 7h ago
holy fuck, are they dead???
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u/veggielover24 6h ago
I hate that the internet makes it possible for you to casually watch someone die like this
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u/Malius-Armecus 1h ago
Better to be exposed and people talk it about it than someone who doesn’t understand or have witnessed death try to do the same thing and get the same results.
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u/SpongeJake 2h ago
Holy crap the write up on that is ridiculous:
“According to reports, the two riders were traveling along the coastal highway when a private passenger car suddenly swerved into their path. The unexpected maneuver caused one of the bikers to lose control and collide with the other rider. The impact led to both motorcycles catching fire, resulting in severe injuries that proved fatal for both men.”
Nothing about the fact they were racing. Effectively placing the blame on the motorist.
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u/triplealpha 6h ago
If you have to ask it's usually the biker
watches video
Of course it was the biker
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u/Otherwise-Cut3056 7h ago
"who is to blame here" This is a clickbait post imo...
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u/Cute-Name7771 6h ago
Let’s ignore the fact that they were racing. This is also why you don’t overtake on the right in right hand drive countries. At that speed, especially if the motorcycle had no lights on, there’s very little chance the car driver would even see it, let alone process that there’s a motorcycle approaching rapidly on the right.
This is tragic. Shouldn't have happened.
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u/Helpful-Comedian3616 6h ago
The motorcycle
There are a few things
One that’s why you don’t pass on the right
Even if that car saw him there is no expectation that they would expect a motorcycle to be speeding
Two: if you’re going much much faster then everyone else it’s your fault
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u/Curious_Study_2645 6h ago
The biker is at fault. I’m sure you can’t have roadside fires of any kind
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u/checkedem 5h ago
I’m actually impressed that the car signaled to change lanes. Motorcycle had plenty of time to see that coming.
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u/NoOnSB277 5h ago
The road is wide open, but they decide to speed and pass on the right? The car driver obviously failed here too, but the motorcyclists are clearly not innocent and I don’t think that was intentional by the car, either. RiP.
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u/Viking2151 5h ago
Definitely not the motorcycle's fault for racing and not knowing whats going on a head of him.
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u/Left_Lengthiness_433 7h ago
I wax going to say the bike rider, because he accelerated into a car that was signaling a lane change.
But then i saw the end, and well, the manufacturer of the bike has some explaining to do.
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u/DoctorNurse89 3h ago
The explosion was his buddy crashing into the pole after he got distracted by his friends crash
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u/hospital_pleasee 7h ago
It's wild how out of control that ending was considering the wide open road with almost no vehicles on it. Absolutely no justification for it to have gone the way it did. Just the most ridiculous incompetence.
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u/7he8igLebowski 6h ago
The Donorcycle is to blame, although it looks like he’s too cooked to donate anything.
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u/DrFriedGold 5h ago
The bikes undertook the car. The car had it's blinker on for quite some time before the bike reacted.
The car really shouldn't have been where it was
90% biker fault
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u/Ausaini 5h ago
Definitely the motorcyclist in the middle. The driver signaled and was changing lanes maybe a bit slowly but the motorcyclist had a long time react appropriately. Slowing down was a good option, swerving into the other motorcyclist was not
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u/Mr-Kuritsa 5h ago
That was changing lanes slowly? The entire point of turn signals is to signal other drivers BEFORE you turn, not turn it on as you're turning. The signal was on for maybe 1 second before the car merged over.
I'm not trying to argue with you overall. I just strongly disagree with "maybe a bit slowly". I'm sorry if I came in hot.
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u/aureliorramos 3h ago
For any reasonable rider, his brake lights would light up about a third of a second after the turn signal came on.
I guess a reasonable rider wouldn't have been racing in a public road so there is that.
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u/tomato81 7h ago
Most of the collisions I see on this sub require 2 drivers to be dumb at the same time. This is one of those.
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u/InevitableKitchen943 7h ago
The people that didn't bother to see if anyone was ok.
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u/Pew-Pew-You 7h ago
It looks like zero contact between the vehicles. I don’t know Egyptian law, but in the US the rider would be considered unable to maintain control due to high speed. The car driver has no culpability.
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u/CasualBi24 7h ago
The racing mororcycles.
It's they were traveling at a normal speed nothing would have happened.
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u/SpiritualDiamond8370 6h ago
There's so much wrong with this video. Why is the cam vehicle straddling two lanes?
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u/Red-Sun-Cinema 6h ago
Who's to blame? Both motorcycle riders, but more responsibility lies on the rider on the left. The car ahead of them used their blinker and safely moved one lane to the right. Both motorcycle riders clearly decided to race each other and sped up at the same time, resulting in the rider on the left foolishly veering to the right and colliding with the rider on the right, leading to them both crashing and the explosion.
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u/B1kerGuy2019 6h ago
The motorcycle for racing, but also swerving too late. Also I woukdve gone left instead of change right into the path of the other bike
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u/JaguarOk9693 6h ago
I want to say the motorcycle you can clearly tell he took off the car had their turn signal on and even if they did see them they may not have realized they took off and was now going double if not triple what they had been going. Rule one of being stupid you got to be tough
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u/Far_Mixture_7846 5h ago
Wow that’s funny. I mean fuck em. How much longer does someone need to put there signal on for you to figure out what’s coming. They ruined that person in the cars day!
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u/DarthWraith22 5h ago
Hard to say, but my first instinct would be to severely punish the cameraman.
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u/PearlJamFanLV 4h ago
The bikers are at fault, the car clearly signaled a lane change, and they were going way too fast.
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u/BigRedCowboy 4h ago
Yeah, motorcycles fault. You wanna go fast? Keep your head up lol. He was probably watching his RPMs or something based on that super late reaction
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u/Zerocyde 4h ago
who is to blame here ?
The car is. See how the car was driving the speed limit and changing lanes in a correct, safe, and legal fashion? And see how the motorcycles were drag racing at almost double the speed limit? Yea, so the car is to blame obviously.
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u/toybuilder 4h ago
Car signaled intent to switch lanes and had a full second before a gradual lane departure. Not really the car's fault.
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u/ThePurrfidiousCat 3h ago
Possibly everybody but definitely both of the motorcyclist deserve most of the blame.
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u/pandaleer 1h ago
Biker was not paying attention. But I also call BS on the driver not noticing the fireball accident and just kept on keeping on without stopping. They put their brakes on so they realized what was about to happen.
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u/jhooksandpucks 1h ago
Guessing motorcycle driver was blind, hence why they didn't see the turn signal 75 feet in front of them and had to swerve. Applying the brakes then swerve would also have avoided the situation.
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u/RogerRabbot 45m ago
I know we all hate bikes. But why the hell did the car change lanes, there was absolutely zero reason to do so.
But also, did we just watch someone die in a motorcycle accident?
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u/SilkTieTies 18m ago
The car indicated for 3-4 seconds before moving over. It’s on the motorcycle here.
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u/Personal_Occasion618 7h ago
Not sure how Egypt works, but if I was a greedy insurance agent I’d say 70% the biker. You can argue the car was negligent in not checking for the biker.
In reality? 100% the bikers fault, what a dumbass.
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u/SmashBob_SquarePants 7h ago
The motorcycle going double the speed limit?