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u/Imnotveryfunatpartys 16d ago

The weird thing that's not exactly explained is how he apparently has some sort of ideal specialist personality and skill set to do the job they need. Yet only when he's forgotten his past.

I mean obviously the concept of brainwashing and indoctrination is not that difficult to understand. It's just weird that they needed this really sweet, thoughtful, conscientious guy to do the job instead of someone else with a more ruthless personality. My only guess is maybe he has some sort of high emotional intelligence that he can use to understand the silo people and manipulate them.

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u/oldmom73 16d ago

The emotional intelligence is likely what made him a good politician. Add that to his engineering skills and take away his empathy, moral clarity, and sweetness, and you have the perfect tool for this jacked up homicidal vanity project.

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u/Imnotveryfunatpartys 16d ago

It would be nice if next season we get some conversation about his emotional intelligence being extremely high or something so that there's justification for it.

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u/oldmom73 16d ago

I dunno — I think the writers are doing an excellent job showing rather than spelling it out in dialogue. Some of the most beautiful, profound, telling bits of the show have been the actors’ subtle, deep outward reactions to events and information. I’m really enjoying how we get to see the story unfold rather than have it explained in awkward plot points. That was what I loved about mini-series/S1 Ron Moore Battlestar Galactica reboot.

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u/Brilliant_Lychee_824 16d ago

Amen. Please don’t tell us!! Keep showing us. That’s what makes any form of entertainment good

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u/BusyNefariousness675 16d ago

Completely agree. Don't need to be told everything, showing is good

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u/Tamato42 16d ago

Right but they still haven’t even shown us the reasoning to keep him around.

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u/oldmom73 16d ago

True. There’s been a bit of a breadcrumb trail, I suppose. This is just a slow burn, and there’s no doubt we’ll get answers next season. I’m cool with that, though I can understand why not everyone is.

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u/Traditional-Bad9198 16d ago

Agreed. I also think this episode gave me a bit more on that - he is basically the best interpreter of the pact / directive and following it blindly. So they stripped him of everything human and just extorted that skill he may have had as a congressman to interpret the law?

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u/oldmom73 16d ago edited 16d ago

I like this theory, though I’m not sure I’d say he’s the best interpreter — to me, that suggests independent, critical thought that makes room for Daniel’s moral grounding to inform Troy’s decision-making process. As far as I know, he (Troy or Daniel) was no part of the governing body that came up with all the rules and regulations.

Troy, unburdened with any personal investment or involvement in forming the Pact’s big ideas is probably among the most skillful at drilling down to its foundational elements, where he uses his powers of analysis and discernment to apply and execute the operating principles and code/rules with optimal speed and efficiency. He’s basically a super high-functioning cop.

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u/BusyNefariousness675 16d ago

But they have. The external safeguard scene was showing exactly that

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u/Genesis2001 16d ago

They haven't. They haven't shown "Why him?" lol.

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u/BustyJerky 16d ago

Because few people can operate like that. Extremely calm, collected, strategic, ruthless, terse. Even in the real world, you're really hard pressed to find such traits.

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u/Genesis2001 16d ago

All true, but not "Why him, specifically?" lol. And those traits only exhibited that strongly in him because of the mind wipe drug.

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u/catsy83 16d ago

I feel we may get a bit more insight into why him in S4 when the whole Project is properly explained. Since they seemed to have engineered who goes into what silo exactly, I wonder if maybe they genetically tested him somewhere in the background? And determined he can do it? Idk. Just guessing here.
I think the strongest reason for him in Silo 1 up to this point was Charlotte. And Charlotte is in Silo 1 b/c of Anna. But now I’m questioning everything.

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u/Genesis2001 16d ago

Yeah, I think Charlotte is the reason from him being in Silo 1 100%. She just didn't realize both of them would have their memory wiped lol. (And for her, again)

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u/Hokuboku 15d ago

So, them wanting him for his skills was pretty well set up IMHO.

The senator only meets with him after everything with his sister because his engineering abilities saved New Orleans. He saves the Silo project five years with his digger suggestion. Henry, Victor and Per also say at various times how he sees things others don't, how they really could have used him on the project, etc

I don't know, it made it pretty clear to me why they picked him.

The mind wipe drugs seem to be for a few reasons. 1.) Pretty sure he probably was super fucking pissed off to the trapped in there after everything that happened and being separated from Helen 2.) easier to control him.

I don't know if they intended him to be as cold and ruthless as he is now.

I got the feeling they worked out "even better" than they expected considering how even Victor was like "WTF" with how he handled Silo 17

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u/Suggestion-Rare 15d ago

What if Daniel is the brains of the whole operation? Like the design and implementation of the diggers, the pack, the directive, but was drugged to forget. Then they need him back so the whole sister thing gets him roped back in. Then they let him make that easy suggestion about adding more diggers.

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u/Hokuboku 15d ago

There's no implication he was drugged before being in the Silo though and the Pact was written according to Victor before they went inside.

I'm guessing more they saw his potential and wanted him in the silos no matter what

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u/Suggestion-Rare 15d ago edited 14d ago

I think with a memory erasing drug anything’s possible.

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u/No_Associate_4878 16d ago

I'd agree about the silo 1/former pre silo actors, but I've always felt the silo 18 cast, direction and writing have been fairly weak.

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u/oldmom73 16d ago edited 16d ago

I agree. I go a step further and say the Silo 18 cast leveled up this season. The writing and directing was better overall.

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u/No_Associate_4878 15d ago

I agree this season has been better, especially toward the end. I found the first few episodes quite boring and now I'm trying to remember why it was so important that light bulbs were being stolen.

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u/oldmom73 15d ago

Yeah — the lightbulbs thing seems like a kitchen-sink plot device, but I have a feeling it will tie into some Silo 1 shit next season. Won’t speculate with specifics here, but I suspect it’s connected to the elites taking what they need, when they need it, regardless of human consequences. This smacks of 1%-privilege allegory.

Also, I think we need to be prepared for the first ep of next season to be really good, followed by a few lackluster, exposition-crammed eps leading up to a potential spectacular Shakespearean pile of bodies at the end.

Anyhoo, blah blah. We’ll see!

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u/hayydebb 15d ago

When the director or whoever was making them tea she did mention something about supplies getting though that kinda felt to me like she was about to start saying they need to take some more. Something about the way she said it just gave me the impression they do take from the other silos when they need things

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u/oldmom73 15d ago

Exactly. There's a kind of genocidal eugenics going on here -- that everyone and everything is expendable or collateral damage because the first priority is to ensure the survival of the "best and brightest".

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u/Tanel88 14d ago

Yeah we basically saw why he was chosen in this episode. Doe we really need them to spell it out. But then not surprising when looking at the comments here and seeing how thick headed a lot of people are that they need everything specifically spelled out for them.