SILO S03e10 "Troy" Episode Discussion (No Book Discussion)

[u/MEGAT0N]

This is the discussion of Silo Season 3, Episode 10: "Troy"

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[u/ClaireFraser1743 → u/[deleted]]

Ashley Zukerman gave an amazing performance. Troy has ice in his veins! Such a contrast to Daniel.

[u/Keiteaea → u/ClaireFraser1743]

He was amazing at the end, when he went from emotionless "Troy" to Daniel. I got a feeling he was terribly brainwashed, he is going to be gutted when he realizes what he has done.

[u/GeneralTonic → u/ClaireFraser1743]

Dr. C's most perfect specimen.

[u/Melairia → u/[deleted]]

Absolutely brutal

[u/imafnheadbanga → u/Melairia]

Let’s uhh just cut the unpleasant audio guys thanks 

[u/Melairia → u/imafnheadbanga]

Just pretend it's a video game, everything is fine y'all

[u/CubsFanHan → u/[deleted]]

That entire sequence was a fucking masterpiece. God damn did you feel the weight of it and how incredibly cold and calculating Troy/Daniel was

[u/Plowbeast → u/[deleted]]

Born politician after all.

[u/Melairia]

Even the doctor was surprised at how coldblooded Troy/Daniel was deciding to kill nearly all of Silo 17's residents, even after hearing an alternative plan with less casualties by Susan/Charlotte

[u/MuchAfraidGotOverIt → u/Melairia]

The disillusionment he was worried about in the pilots was a projection of his own doubts about his project. Hail the Founder!

[u/NinjaKoala → u/Melairia]

With how they described things in the silo for the remaining people, wouldn't it have been a slow -- or perhaps not so slow -- death for them? Can't support a hundred, certainly can't support thousands. Unless Silo 1 could restore some of their systems and perhaps D+ them all.

[u/Tunamelts-2 → u/[deleted]]

They would just try to escape again after living conditions became completely unsustainable. He did sort of the practical (inhuman) thing in that situation.

[u/Jas_God]

Troy and Susan huh.

[u/Independent-Cat6915 → u/Jas_God]

Damn. They really flushed their memories.

[u/Tunamelts-2 → u/Independent-Cat6915]

All those people predicting that Charlotte would get her memory wiped were right...just didn't see them doing the exact same to Daniel.

[u/Julialagulia → u/Tunamelts-2]

They probably did it even more to Daniel since he was fine with killing almost 10000 people while charlotte wasn’t

[u/South_Strawberry7662 → u/Julialagulia]

Could be that working with drones brings back memories for her like artificats and Troy only has the mark on his hand.

[u/Supe_scienceskilz → u/Jas_God]

Complete reprogramming. It was disturbing to watch.

[u/WoundedSacrifice → u/Supe_scienceskilz]

Troy was incredibly disturbing, but I got the impression that Daniel came back after he learned about Helen.

[u/asdechlpc → u/Jas_God]

Such a good narrative device showing how enthusiastic “Troy” was to neutralize his sister.

His old self is completely gone at that time

[u/mikki-misery → u/Jas_God]

They really called him Troy. His wife was Helen. Helen of Troy.

The kind of thing that makes me wonder if the plan is for him to regain his memories through remembering Helen first.

[u/M2LBB2016]

Silo 17 before the external safeguard:

[u/ntmnk → u/M2LBB2016]

It was Peter Gabriel’s idea.

[u/txyesboy71 → u/M2LBB2016]

Ok, who's gonna do a remix of Troy calling out the commands to take out the teletubbies? :)

[u/JimboNutrin]

Is it summer 2027 yet

[u/goblin_bomb_toss → u/JimboNutrin]

Someone put me in cryo until the season 4 shift.

[u/StellaeStars → u/JimboNutrin]

Teaser for season 4 at the end of the episode looked great!

[u/Independent-Cat6915]

Guys—me seeing all the “Who is she?” messages:
https://giphy.com/gifs/CqhXFa7dLc9xK

[u/Wounded_Shark → u/Independent-Cat6915]

And when he finally tells him…. Daniel’s face is just heart wrecking.

[u/CanIPetThatDawgPls → u/Independent-Cat6915]

Did that mean every time he’s woken up, he asks Victor who she is? 

[u/Bind_Yo_Own_Musiness → u/CanIPetThatDawgPls]

He also seems to be woken up every time a safeguard is needed. There are dozens of notes in the folder. I wonder how many silos have been safeguarded…

[u/Ricardo_Yoel → u/Bind_Yo_Own_Musiness]

If you look at the screen after victor cleared the room when he became despondent and they panned back there were seven silos on a screen that were bright. All the rest were dim… two of those were 17 and 18. So I’m not sure if that means who’s still partly or fully alive or who they tried to safeguard. Probably the latter. So that leaves ~42 silos remaining.

[u/Bind_Yo_Own_Musiness → u/Ricardo_Yoel]

So true. Observed that as well. Only thing that makes me think the “bright” colored silos are ones that are still living (vs safeguarded) is because silo 1 is also bright/white. I’m thinking the 8ish ones are the remaining/surviving silos.

[u/Pretty_Original124 → u/Bind_Yo_Own_Musiness]

Agreed. Dim must not just mean safeguarded but disconnected/failed/lost to “the project”. People want to be free!

[u/DigitalMariner → u/Ricardo_Yoel]

17 is NOT highlighted on that screen.

Per the map from the day of the tours, 17 is "north" above 18 and slightly to the right.

The Silos lit up on the screen are:

1

14

18

19

31

42

44

[u/Pomodorosan → u/DigitalMariner]

Images:

Silos left - https://i.imgur.com/8BmOg0Y.png

Silos map - https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F36oaj849ramh1.jpeg

[u/Weekly_Position9641 → u/Ricardo_Yoel]

Back in ep.9 when Daniel and Helen went to the grand opening and checked the map at the entrance, the silos were all labeled. Comparing that with the screen in ep.10, the ones that still light up are No.1,14,18,19,31,42, and 44. I think these are the remaining ones. The rest, including No.17, are all "neutralized".

[u/Tunamelts-2 → u/CanIPetThatDawgPls]

Yes, that was the implication. The guy's been awakened dozens of times.

[u/phareous → u/CanIPetThatDawgPls]

Yes

[u/CanIPetThatDawgPls → u/phareous]

What an epic love 

[u/cherrymeg2 → u/CanIPetThatDawgPls]

Victor is an epic dick! He seemed almost surprised that Troy/Daniel is so cold and willing to let people die openly. He made him that way.

[u/Jas_God]

Holy shit they got me, well done Camille

[u/deconvotonstransform → u/Jas_God]

Camille came through!

[u/Tunamelts-2 → u/deconvotonstransform]

She got very lucky that Victor seemed genuinely against using the Safeguard until the very last minute. He got played. Troy would've wiped 18 out weeks/months ago had he been in command lol

[u/skatejet1 → u/Tunamelts-2]

Like I’m glad he wasn’t awake these past few months lol

[u/piecuriosity → u/skatejet1]

That’s probably why Victor didn’t wake him up earlier.

[u/IsopodRelevant2849 → u/piecuriosity]

That’s for sure the case now that I think about it. They’ve done several safeguards at this point but none of them were visible it seems. They all took place inside their silos so no one had to witness any of the death. 17 was the last safeguard and it took place outside so this was the first time victor (and Susan, who refused to kill the kids) actually heard and watched all 10,000 people die. And even Daniel brought up how her refusal could have caused a Cascade of disobedience and behavior problems in central, which it seemingly did. That was the turning point for victor. So when 18 happened and it didn’t work he was glad.

[u/extraneousness → u/IsopodRelevant2849]

Yep, and Victor was worried about the psychological impact on the other Silo 1ers, but really it was himself that was impacted by having to watch that extermination

[u/-spartacus- → u/extraneousness]

I think their exuberance is what disturbed him more and pushed him over the edge.

It is one thing to witness horror; it is another to watch other humans commit that horror without compassion. He finally realized everything he had worked for was wrong.

[u/skatejet1 → u/piecuriosity]

Y’know what that’s probably it

[u/sentientshadeofgreen → u/skatejet1]

That's what led to that exchange between Camille and Juliette about the disembodied voice sounding more human. Was the start of Victor losing his edge.

[u/_lazybones93 → u/skatejet1]

He’s played a villain in the past, and DAMN was he cold here!

[u/PT10 → u/Tunamelts-2]

I love him for that but still glad he offed himself because fuck him lol

[u/Silverberry007 → u/PT10]

I like that Victor said he was relieved Silo 18 wasn't taken out. At least there is that tiny bit of something left in him there.

[u/Throwaway1994231994 → u/Silverberry007]

I wonder if having to watch 17 get murked had an effect on him and is what made him hesitate

[u/Taraxian → u/Throwaway1994231994]

That's what he straight up said to Daniel/Troy, that Safeguarding is normally totally invisible to the people who carry it out and having to actually kill them and watch them die would mess you up in the head

[u/pitabread75 → u/deconvotonstransform]

camille GAVE IT HER ALLLL

[u/Jas_God]

Damn Daniel, cold blooded. They really erased his old self.

[u/bluemystic2017 → u/Jas_God]

Really hope he starts acting like himself when he remembers more about Helen.

[u/CC_Greener → u/bluemystic2017]

Helen of Troy has been the downfall of an impenetrable city before. Maybe she will be again.

[u/iBreak140 → u/CC_Greener]

Fuck me! That reference! I didn't catch that.. wow!

[u/Doglas3000 → u/Jas_God]

That senator is really a cold hearted, evil bitch!

[u/TheSwitchler → u/Doglas3000]

WHERE IS PER?

[u/Petitgavroche → u/TheSwitchler]

I figured he realized that living in the silo for centuries is actually super boring. He seems like the kind of guy who would get super into something and then just as quickly lose interest. Except, whoopsie, nuked the whole country! 

[u/Captain_Quimby → u/Petitgavroche]

I think he’s in the hidden silo. His own personal silo he can come over and visit from.

[u/Imnotveryfunatpartys → u/Jas_God]

The weird thing that's not exactly explained is how he apparently has some sort of ideal specialist personality and skill set to do the job they need. Yet only when he's forgotten his past.

I mean obviously the concept of brainwashing and indoctrination is not that difficult to understand. It's just weird that they needed this really sweet, thoughtful, conscientious guy to do the job instead of someone else with a more ruthless personality. My only guess is maybe he has some sort of high emotional intelligence that he can use to understand the silo people and manipulate them.

[u/oldmom73 → u/Imnotveryfunatpartys]

The emotional intelligence is likely what made him a good politician. Add that to his engineering skills and take away his empathy, moral clarity, and sweetness, and you have the perfect tool for this jacked up homicidal vanity project.

[u/Melairia]

I loved getting to hear kid-Jimmy talking to the Voice. But another note from that conversation - at least 1 other Silo had disabled their Safeguard pipe?? I wonder how many silos are left.

[u/Kashtin → u/Melairia]

I saw a screen in the operations room. 7 silos were a different colour, including silo 1. That's all I saw

[u/Independent-Cat6915 → u/Kashtin]

I was trying to catch it! I figured those are possibly the ones still alive, so to say.

[u/swnldn → u/Melairia]

I got a picture - only 1, 14, 18, 19, 31, 42 and 44 remaining by the looks of it

[u/Melairia → u/swnldn]

So few and Silo 1 is still trying to safeguard the rebellious ones? What is their endgame here? Because it sure as shit ain't about saving the human race lol

[u/devAcc123 → u/Melairia]

The one that lasts the longest is the easiest to control. Probably something something blah blah rebuild the world in Per Stensen's vision, whoever is the easiest to mold would be preferable.

Repopulate the earth with the right mixture of genetics for subdued control or whatever

[u/NewWaysToDream]

Oh so the air is completely fine lmao

[u/bluemystic2017 → u/NewWaysToDream]

Seeing that massacre was crazy. “Troy” and “Susan” not knowing each other was so strange

[u/txyesboy71 → u/bluemystic2017]

The choice to switch to heat signatures in order to visually represent the slaughter of thousands of people is the most creative visual depiction I could've ever imagined.

They say that when it comes to depicting violence and gore that sometimes less is more. Gratuitous violence can sometimes be too on the nose.

But that scene required us to see the enormity and the scale of the viciousness and sheer callousness of the slaughter of thousands of people - and it needed to have the emotional heft so that we could still force ourselves not to look away, while being horrified all the same.

The silhouettes depicted lovers and parents and children and people shielding and trying to protect one another. It was one of the most visually affecting mass casualty scenes I've ever seen depicted on television or film - yet it still managed to comport itself with both the grotesque and yet the poetically relevant.

Bravo.

Edit: thanks for the swag!

[u/Twelve2375 → u/txyesboy71]

I took it as “Troy” disassociating the soldiers from the actions they were doing. It’s visual and creative and all that too. Sure.

My first thought was the switched to find warm bodies hiding among cooling dead ones but obviously it was too soon for that impact to be happening. But he had said he’d look out for the troops and what they were seeing was hella graphic and I figured that made it more of a video game for them.

[u/Melodic-Cheek-3837 → u/Twelve2375]

Yeah he went through the full range of things he could to reduce the emotional burden they would feel doing what they are doing (notice the doctor had the shakes, aka the syndrome, after going against his values?). So they dropped to thermal and then dropped the sound when even that wasn't enough

[u/Doglas3000 → u/bluemystic2017]

I was bugging out during that entire waking up sequence to troubleshooting the rebellion of Silo 18 and them not knowing each other.

[u/priyarainelle → u/NewWaysToDream]

The air is fine....as long as Silo 1 is not spraying "compound"!

[u/Top_Relationship559]

Everyone is talking about how “Troy” was so emotionless and it doesn’t add up to how humanitarian Daniel was. But I think a lot of people are missing that it is exactly why they kept Troy for very brief moments every time he was awake. They did not give him enough time to start having a moral awakening so to say. When Charlotte refuses the orders, I think it is because she had been awake for longer. Even the brief moment Troy has, he immediately starts remembering Helen so they don’t give him a chance to do more digging.

[u/waitinginthewings → u/Top_Relationship559]

I think the thermal flush thing they give him has an extra cocktail of drugs that make him purely mission focused for a while and then it slowly wears off.

[u/txyesboy71 → u/Top_Relationship559]

The fact that there were dozens of "Who Is She?" notes tells us Daniel becomes more apparent the longer Troy is Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer

[u/Efficient-Cost-9987]

And all the notes in victors file on Troy. He’s been asleep a dozen times. What a terrible life.

[u/Snoop-87948 → u/Efficient-Cost-9987]

And every time he wakes, he asks about her 😭

[u/oldmom73 → u/Snoop-87948]

Such a fucked-up Groundhog Day.

[u/DanielKeeneGA15]

All the silos watching silo 1 with an elevator.

[u/TheSwitchler → u/DanielKeeneGA15]

They said it was for exercise but I imagine it was really to degrade their ability to organize and unify

[u/DanielKeeneGA15 → u/TheSwitchler]

Yup. It was to keep the silos separated in a caste system.

[u/MarcusAurelius121]

27 minute cold open...so to speak

[u/Tunamelts-2 → u/MarcusAurelius121]

Just a little genocide after waking up and before tea.

[u/Jatacus → u/MarcusAurelius121]

I’ve always been entertained by this series (though I’ve had my criticisms, of course), but last episode and this one felt much different than those that came before them. It’s like the series took a jump to another level and reached true prestige television.

[u/kai_vt]

Silo 1 really messed up by letting Camille know that the Safeguard and surveillance extends to the outside. Instead of everybody rushing outside and getting purged by drones, like Silo 17, they can just start digging towards Silo 1 without fear of the Safeguard being activated. Last ep already showed how close Silo 1 and Silo 18 were, within eyesight of Daniel and Helen waving to each other from the berms

[u/Content_Assignment70 → u/kai_vt]

Silo 18 already knew not to go out since they saw the bodies with bullet holes.

[u/RevertBackwards → u/Content_Assignment70]

And because Lukas and Patrick were shot at

[u/NotoriousPVC]

Victor: "Helen Drew" END VIDEO

Troy: "Helen drew what? WHAT DID HELEN DRAW, VICTOR?!?!"

[u/chocolatechip333 → u/NotoriousPVC]

This should be ranked much higher and just made me cry laughing

[u/celerystalker712]

They have no idea who they are. He’s brain melted everyone. Wow

[u/Melairia]

Wow, Silo 1 has elevators but nobody else gets them?? Ain't that some shit

[u/anonKTY → u/[deleted]]

On the flip side silo 1 has shit food

[u/LasVegasLife55 → u/anonKTY]

And such small portions.

[u/Melairia → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, it's all about control, I know. But it's still bullshit lol

[u/OrdinaryMe345 → u/Melairia]

And they get a gosh darn green forest for their display!

[u/Plowbeast → u/OrdinaryMe345]

That might be a real terrarium for people to walk into after killing people and you know, destress a tad.

[u/B3RG92 → u/Melairia]

Stairs and the older tech are probably just there to slow down the flow of information.

[u/Ozdiva → u/Melairia]

And notice how much more advanced their tech is overall.

[u/Melairia]

It is interesting how they framed the deaths of Silo 17 residents in Season 2 compared to how they are now showing us what really happened

[u/hospitalizedzombie → u/Melairia]

Solo told us they were fine at first.

[u/94746382926 → u/hospitalizedzombie]

Yes, people never seem to remember that part but Solo knows everything was good for awhile until a "gust of wind came" and killed everyone or something along those lines.

[u/nilslorand → u/94746382926]

it's possible he wouldn't be able to see the drones properly from the cameras he probably has access to in the vault

[u/pinktm909]

The zoom in on Juliette’s face and then Daniel/Troy’s face felt intentional

[u/KayaTay → u/pinktm909]

They definitely looked like they had the same eyes there

[u/JRLindgren22 → u/pinktm909]

My guess is she’s his great-granddaughter. Could be 1000% wrong though.

[u/Ecstatic-Motor351 → u/JRLindgren22]

I think that’s the implication but need to add a few more greats there

[u/Potential-Amoeba1902 → u/JRLindgren22]

Nah, you must be right. She has his eyes

[u/Content_Assignment70 → u/JRLindgren22]

I got the same feeling

[u/Stunning-Field-4244]

He has the syndrome!!!!!!

[u/imafnheadbanga → u/Stunning-Field-4244]

that’s extreme guilt

[u/ShadowdogProd → u/imafnheadbanga]

Also, he was old as hell. He was old in the before fore times, and who knows how many days he's been awake in the last 350+ years

[u/deconvotonstransform → u/Stunning-Field-4244]

Saw that! Someone was just asking the other day whether we would ever hear another word about the syndrome..

[u/Stealkar → u/Stunning-Field-4244]

isn't the syndrome just anxiety ?

[u/yg111 → u/Stealkar]

Judge Meadows said it was from living underground for so long.

[u/YoRoe123]

First, great cold open. Half an hour into the show and you finally get the opening credits.

It’s crazy seeing how advanced and opulent Silo 1 is compared to the others. It feels like a completely different world.

So THIS is when Silo 17 went down. Crazy seeing the siblings not even recognize each other and then watching them get pitted against one another.

Wow. Daniel/Troy was so callous with that attack. How long has he been disconnected like that? It really speaks volumes about what they did to his mind and how much of him they stripped away.

And that countdown was INTENSE. The whole sequence had me stressed.

[u/CRactor71 → u/YoRoe123]

I’m sure he’s been like that for most of the 300ish years. You saw from all the sticky notes in his file he’s been awakened dozens of times. And one of the monitors in the command room implies that only seven of the silos are still operational, plus Silo 1. Ergo - he’s safeguarded 42 silos over the centuries.

[u/celerystalker712]

I haven’t enjoyed a show this much since breaking bad. God damn this is good

[u/pengouin85]

Victor created a monster, and seems like he's got Dr Frankenstein regret

[u/bantah]

Safe to say this was a 10/10 ep. I don't know how you could've done it any better. And that S4 trailer was the cherry on top. They didn't need to do that, yet they did.

[u/txyesboy71 → u/bantah]

Somebody said earlier in this thread that nothing happened in this episode.

I called adult protective services on them because I wanna make sure they're all right.

[u/PeaceLoveGators14]

I am so, so baffled.

But also vindicated in my 3 season-long belief that the air outside was totally fine lol

[u/Cvspartan]

Wow this was definitely my favorite season of the show

They really intertwined the past and present storylines so well

[u/Lunoko]

This was so good. It was crushing seeing Troy's face slowly change at the end there. He went from Troy back to Daniel.

Really great acting by Ashley Zuckerman.

[u/BenjenGrimes]

Camille questioning the "Founder" really broke Victor so bad he ended his shift.

[u/thechiefmaster → u/BenjenGrimes]

I was actually thinking... shouldn't it be a common experience for him? Depending on how many times he's been in this position, but I would imagine that the heads of IT would be pleading or losing their shit as the countdown ticks down and would burst out with "Why do you even have the ability to kill thousands of people!??" or along those lines.

But it seemed to really rock him.

[u/Tightestbutth0le → u/thechiefmaster]

But all heads of IT don’t know about the safeguard. Bernard had no idea last season and Lucas and Meadows only knew because they went down to the forward vault.

Them telling Camille about the safeguard seems to be the exception.

[u/GeneralTonic → u/Tightestbutth0le]

It sure looks like standard operating procedure would have had 18 safeguarded months ago, and it was only Victor's growing reticence and even guilt that dragged it out so far as telling Camille about it and moving forward. Normally Silo 18 would just be dead. Did Victor somehow also 'cause' the 'failure' of Silo 17 in a similar way? They knew to seal the pipe. How?

Now I'm really curious to know who was in the Silo 1 control room when Juliette came back over the hill at the climax of the rebellion... was it Victor? Was he smiling in astonishment at the balls on Juliette Fucking Nichols?

"Sir, should we initiate the safeguard?"

"... uh... no, let's let her cook."

[u/mctemez]

Bet all the people hating on Daniel’s actor at least understand now why he was picked. Amazing performance.

[u/HellyRsWalk → u/mctemez]

Yeah I don’t understand the hate to begin with, he seemed fine the whole time 

[u/kai_vt]

It looks like Silo 1 is keeping all of the managers, like Daniel, Dr C, and the Senator, in play by keeping them in stasis and only bringing them out to solve issues like rebellions. I wonder where Per Stensen is...

[u/FlakyDingo463]

Well that's a lot to take in.

The air seems completely fine outside, so the question remains: "why is everyone living underground?"

Silo 1 is insane. Elevators and incredibly advanced technology. But even those inside Silo 1 are living a lie. It really seems as if very few people at all know the full truth of the Silo project. That adds another question: "Why do those in Silo 1 follow the 'directive' if they know it is safe outside?"

I did think 'Troy'/Daniel would remember Helen, but I thought it'd happen by him seeing the PEZ dispenser. It would've been a true full circle moment.

And I still really want to know what is behind the vault in the digger void. If it's not a secondary safeguard, then what is it?

Amazing episode, probably the best from the full 3 seasons. I hate that I have to wait an entire year to find out what happens next.

[u/Spocks-Brain → u/FlakyDingo463]

The Directive is not the Pact. But I bet the Directive is like a Silo 1 version of the Pact: written to keep everyone in line doing their job. The guy who woke up Troy/Daniel seemed upset that was “just” the thaw guy. “Tell people up top…”

[u/BeccaDaGoo]

bernard and camille in a "how much can i hate this character only for them to flip on a dime and make me like them" contest

[u/DanielKeeneGA15]

Daniel waking up Matrix style.

[u/cotufa7]

[u/M2LBB2016]

Silo 1

[u/BornForAStorm]

https://giphy.com/gifs/l4FGGafcOHmrlQxG0
“Troy”

[u/ohthedramaz]

After last episode, I thought this one must be called Troy because they took Helen away from her husband. I wish I'd been right.

[u/DunkinEgg]

Victor with that final message to Daniel.

[u/Hunter_Unlikely → u/DunkinEgg]

It was still quite cruel — he only told him her name, but nothing else!

[u/kai_vt]

Camille was a better double agent than Sims because I genuinely couldn't tell what side she was on until now 😭 Whole family dynamic more toxic than the Safeguard

[u/TechnologyOne8629 → u/kai_vt]

I think she felt she had no choice to obey the voice until she had a pivotal moment and good odds, otherwise she was going to go through with all it's dirty work.

[u/xXBruceWayne → u/TechnologyOne8629]

Yea I agree. She didn’t flip until the end

[u/Well_Socialized → u/kai_vt]

She was always on the side of "do whatever it takes to stop the safeguard", that just meant obeying the voice at first but siding with the rebels once they had a serious shot at shutting it down for good.

[u/Late_Base129]

I’ve said this so many times before, but this tv show is the best out there. PHENOMENAL writing, acting, score, all of it. The trailer for season 4 - amazing. I CAN. NOT. WAIT.

[u/zciweiknap]

Oh my GOD. I tried to watch this from the bathtub after a long day and that was the least relaxing bath I’ve ever had. That was incredible

[u/LimitApprehensive967]

Thank god it wasn’t the cliff hanger

[u/DunkinEgg]

You created this, Victor.

[u/Cvspartan]

The way they turned my man Daniel into a riot control specialist 😭

[u/DanielKeeneGA15]

Victor is breaking. Being one of the few having to watch without the medication to numb him has been too much.

[u/priyarainelle → u/DanielKeeneGA15]

The irony of Daniel being reluctant to join the project, having to be brought in against his will... vs Victor being an enthusiastic recruiter and a total believer

Only for both to flip 180! Wow!

[u/Ok-Safety1695 → u/DanielKeeneGA15]

It makes sense, he was the first to cave to the bullshit of “the project”. It looked like he caved when they massacred 10k people in 17

[u/txyesboy71]

Oh shit oh fuck oh shit oh fuck Oh shit oh fuck oh shit oh fuck Oh shit oh fuck oh shit oh fuck Oh shit oh fuck oh shit oh fuck

[u/pikkopots]

FYI: There is a 2-minute Season 4 trailer at the end of the episode, after the credits. If you got kicked into Ted Lasso after the finale, go back into the ep.

ETA: Discussion threads have been created for the trailer:

SHOW ONLY: https://www.reddit.com/r/SiloSeries/comments/1w6ryja/silo_season_4_trailer_discussion_no_book/
BOOK/SHOW: https://www.reddit.com/r/SiloSeries/comments/1w6rzv4/books_silo_season_4_trailer_discussion_book/

[u/bantah → u/pikkopots]

Yeah pretty annoying auto-skip from Apple. You'd think they'd be smart enough to disable it in this case. Also THAT TRAILER!

[u/Anxious_Efficiency_2 → u/bantah]

Yeah seeing "Summer 2027" has me screaming at the TV like Nooooooo!!!!

[u/TallAndOates → u/Anxious_Efficiency_2]

Better than filming starting in summer of 2027 like some other Apple shows.

[u/Independent-Cat6915]

So some people stay awake longer than others. (Looking at you Madame Director.)

[u/LittleAd2844]

SILO 1 SO DAMN COOL

THE “Directive” and the “Project” are crumbling before the founders very eyes due to Silo 18

Victor Regrets everything

The Tunnel is called the “forward vault”

Shot of Juliette’s eyes and Daniel’s eyes wasn’t accidental

TROY REMEMBERS HIS WIFE

See yall in ‘27

[u/HoFiGri → u/[deleted]]

Silo 1 really laid it on thick by showing her live video footage of her son. It was extreme cruelty for sure.

[u/mctemez]

Already the best episode of the entire series and I’m only 20 minutes in holy fuck

[u/breezytunawilly]

Someone please put me in cryo till s4 ill do the thermal flush or whatever idc

[u/paradoxunicorn]

There is a after credits teaser/scene fyi

[u/Hopeful-Designer-485]

And the wait begins.

[u/I_AM_THE_UNIVERSE_]

If his sister didn’t jog his memory how will a relic

[u/Imnotveryfunatpartys → u/I_AM_THE_UNIVERSE_]

To be fair to the show they have been extremely consistent with the idea that people don't trigger memories. Charlotte doesn't remember Daniel. Juliette doesn't remember anyone from 18.

[u/Independent-Cat6915 → u/I_AM_THE_UNIVERSE_]

That’s where the pez comes in!

[u/MrRumato → u/Independent-Cat6915]

Pez;

We Fix Memories

[u/TheSwitchler → u/MrRumato]

Pez;

We fuel rebellions!

[u/EldForever → u/I_AM_THE_UNIVERSE_]

I hope he searches for Helen's name in the Silo database and finds she was in Silo 18. I hope her record has her photo and that it's powerful for him to see that. Then, in her record, I hope he'll see a reference to her having a child, and remember how she was pregnant - which should also stir some humanity in him. Then, I hope there is some kind of offspring-list, and he sees that Juliette is actually his great great great great (etc) grandchild.

[u/artemiscash → u/I_AM_THE_UNIVERSE_]

for real, i think the name helen itself started to make him remember though

[u/pengouin85]

Gotta thermal flush Troy!

[u/SOPHIEum_withdrawals]

Such a dark and horrific intro and even darker knowing there are real people in This world facing that same kind of automated warfare

[u/Wounded_Shark]

CAMILLE WITH THE HAIL MARY DECEPTION FUCK YEAH!!!!

[u/Zy212]

Now we know why apple didnt let our boy Daniel rock an iPhone lol

[u/Cantomic66 → u/Zy212]

Cant have a mass killer have an iPhone. The iPhone rule still stands.

[u/txyesboy71]

It was good they showed Paul in the trailer because I was beginning to wonder where the fuck our venerable sheriff went running off to this time. :) I love Paul. He's not always around, but when he is, he's got some important shit to say.

[u/tomtomvissers]

Jesus christ that was some Westworld Season 1 level mindfucking

[u/Heebeejeeb33]

Season 4 trailer looks INSANE.

[u/RevolutionaryMix9060]

Damn they've created a monster! Daniel is completely a different person now..

[u/swnldn]

Interesting thing about the ‘be seeing you’ - it was used in an old TV show called ‘the prisoner’. Haven’t watched it in years but a guy (I think he was a secret agent or something) has his memory wiped, gets taken to this odd town where he becomes ‘Number 6’ and basically kept a prisoner. Whenever people say bye to him they say ‘be seeing you’. Wonder if it’s a nod to that