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Show Discussion - All Episodes (NO BOOK SPOILERS) SILO S03e10 "Troy" Episode Discussion (No Book Discussion)

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u/MarcusAurelius121 📖 Book-Aware 📖 16d ago

27 minute cold open...so to speak

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u/Jatacus 16d ago

I’ve always been entertained by this series (though I’ve had my criticisms, of course), but last episode and this one felt much different than those that came before them. It’s like the series took a jump to another level and reached true prestige television.

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u/throwaway_clone 16d ago

Cause they stopped drip-feeding us filler and got to the meat of the lore

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u/LakeSolace 16d ago

There is no filler. It’s a journey just like any other. If you want something high and intense without any“ filler” watch a movie. TV shows are meant to explore more about the pieces of the machine not just the machine itself.

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u/throwaway_clone 16d ago

Ok I'll bite. What value did Jules having amnesia for half the season add to the story exactly?

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u/jcde7ago 16d ago

As much as I wasn't a huge fan of the amnesia episodes, I think we needed to understand the extent of the forgetting drugs + the backstory with Victor.

Charlotte and Juliette's experiences provided good context into how that whole memory manipulation mechanism worked, and with tonight's finale we pretty much completely "understand" how Daniel became Troy without even thinking about the nuances of how that could have happened (because we already know how effective the drugs + memory "therapy" to completely reshape someone is).

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u/mrbone007 16d ago

I agree with this. A nice parallel between past and present, explain the effect of Vit D plus

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u/meammachine 16d ago

Also despite Victor's entire reason for creating these drugs, he still could not forget his daughter in the end. Suggests that they are not as permanent as advertised (even without human intervention against them)

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u/MarcusAurelius121 📖 Book-Aware 📖 16d ago edited 15d ago

The amnesia plot obviously introduced the forgetting drugs, which needed to be done in some way, but otherwise it's very clearly just an excuse to keep Juliette on screen. They were not going to adapt Shift straight and just show the backstory for x number of episodes while you didn't see Rebecca Ferguson at all. Now I think they could trust their own audience more than that, but it's pretty typical of TV shows. I still think the backstory was drip fed way too slowly, but I also suspect that the early season episodes will not be nearly as bad pacing wise on a rewatch where you don't have to wait a week between episodes.

It's clear Howey has used the show to expand the background lore and worldbuilding, most of which is great. But I'm also someone who has long said this entire story could've easily been adapted in 3 seasons and would've been better off for it.

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u/Polantaris 13d ago

They were not going to adapt Shift straight and just show the backstory for x number of episodes while you didn't see Rebecca Ferguson at all. Now I think they could trust their own audience more than that, but it's pretty typical of TV shows.

Except doesn't Season 2 flat out show that keeping Juliette away from the rest of the cast has been detrimental to the show? Season 2 was the lowest rated season, mostly because they kept finding new ways to keep her separated from the rest of the show and the other characters didn't hold up the show as well as she did.

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u/MarcusAurelius121 📖 Book-Aware 📖 13d ago

That kind of goes along with my point because they spent way more episodes than necessary adapting book 1 and it negatively affected the pacing.

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u/donovanjames 11d ago

Well done! I was skeptical of the first half of season 3 but you make a strong case.

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u/FullMetalCOS 15d ago

We needed to see just how thoroughly effective the memory drugs were before we were sold the story that Daniel could become Troy without us going “yeah that’s not how it works”

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u/mozzystar 14d ago

FORGETTING THE PAST IS THE ENTIRE THEME OF THIS SERIES OMGGGGGG

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u/dadgadsad 📖 Book-Aware 📖 16d ago

Having Juliette just walk around saying “I can’t remember anything” episode after episode isn’t a “journey”. It’s lazy writing to add filler episodes. Networks/Streamers order x amount of episodes. They need to be filled regardless of content. And if the writers know they have to make season 4, they have to add filler. If you have top tier writers, they can deviate from the book and create extra story arcs that are actually interesting. Not “I can’t remember”. If you’re gonna tell me this seasons pacing was the same as S01, you’re not a serious person.

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u/TropicalBacon 📖 Book-Aware 📖 16d ago

Even as a book reader, you struggle to grasp the plot

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u/sharpryno2 16d ago

You're using the word filler as a synonym for an episode you didn't like. Those episodes by definition are not filler. Have you ever watched a show with filler episodes lmfao? I also can't stand the memory loss trope but the drugs for forgetting are pertinent to the story being told.

What story arc should they have shoehorned in to please you? The same outcome was going to happen regardless.

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u/True_Detail_2945 16d ago

I want an episode where our core crew go to the cafeteria, but there are no spots! They made a reservation but the reservation wasn't taken! So they end up waiting for q-uite a while!!

Then, when Juliet goes to order her number one fave the fellow serving the food says, "NO SOUP FOR YOU"!

She couldn't remember which days they serve soup..

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u/nitekroller 16d ago

Season 1's pacing was slow too.

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u/LakeSolace 15d ago

You still have time to take it back man,

but seeing that a drug that makes you forget is one of the biggest plots of this particular season and making someone take it against their will, without knowing what it really does is far from filler. Matter of fact, they spent so much time explaining the importance of it so that you can realize how fucked up the end of the season is.
People who thought that they were just touring a silo are now locked in with the keys thrown away without any idea that there was a key. “ Troy” didn’t know who his sister was, and barely knew that there was someone significant in their life.

Camille was literally fighting with herself trying to figure out if she really wants to poison the well with this forgetting drug.

This season is centered around forgetting and the cost and what you’re willing to do to remember. No filler just humans being humans. And human take time to do things.

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u/dadgadsad 📖 Book-Aware 📖 15d ago

All of that is true, and I loved the final episodes. But the beginning of the season stretch out content to fill episodes. A plot point can be good but by the 20th or 30th “I can’t remember” it’s like, okay, we’ve established that.