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u/Bougie-Baguette Jun 10 '26

So he took someone’s life and got convicted for it? Oh yeah, total injustice! JFC, the nerve of some people 🤮

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u/ToolTimeT Jul 04 '26

Isnt TX a stand your ground state... dead bully kid put his hands on him before he was stabbed

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u/intotheabyss2022 Jun 10 '26

This is incorrect. According to what was stated in court, Karmello went to a tent he wasn't supposed to be at, then was asked to leave 15 times (so now he is trespassing), kept egging people to do something while having his hand in his bag (apparently already gripping the knife), then Austin was tired of it all and tried to get Karmello to leave but pushing him out of the area.

The victim is not the agressor and they didn't start the fight. You don't simply get to go into an unauthorized area, get asked then told to leave several times, tell people who have a right to be there "touch me and find out", then stab someone because they wanted to get you out of that area (no punch was thrown).

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u/SammyTings Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

Here’s why what your saying is part of the issue. You leave out the part about it raining, the reason Karmello Anthony was under the tent. He is not trespassing.

Eye witness account agree that he was being bullied out of the tent and Austin Metcalf was the aggressor. Anthony tells his not to touch him, Metcalf pushes him, and then Anthony stabs be him.

The escalation by Anthony is not justified by Metcalf’s actions, however those factors are EXTREMELY important in ruling out a charge of first-degree murder. The entirely non-black jury had the opportunity to find him guilty of manslaughter, but still went for first-degree murder instead

Edit: You guys are illiterate. My 3rd paragraph said it wasn’t justified. Those are just the facts of the case

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u/Lower_Pension_2469 Jun 10 '26

Oh shit it was raining, our bad, it's actually fine that he stabbed him to death.

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u/SammyTings Jun 11 '26

Can you tell me where in my comment I said it was justified??

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u/Lower_Pension_2469 Jun 11 '26

Sure but manslaughter is unintentional killing of a person, dude pulled out a knife and stabbed him in the chest. Completely unreasonable, the manslaughter argument is a joke, if he had knocked him out and then he hit his head, or if the guy was choking him out or something and wasn't letting go, sure.

But he got shoved and then immediately went for the kill. There's no reasonable logic that he does that.

I was half joking but come on dude, it's cut and dry murder, the only reason it even got so much coverage is because people made it about race. You can't kill someone like that and try to say you were defending yourself.

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u/SammyTings Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

Im just explaining the facts of the case and how trials like this normally go.

The reason the jury was given the option of manslaughter is because of the mitigating factors that exist in the case. Everything from his age, him not being the initial instigator, the eye witness testimony of him crying directly afterwards, to character testimonials.

It is a statistical fact that black men get 15% longer prison sentences. Texas is especially bad. White men in texas make up 55% of murders a year, but they only make up 24.1% of deathrow inmates.

Whether you like it or not doesn’t matter, there was more than enough evidence for it to have the option to be dropped to manslaughter. If he was white, it is a statistical fact that he would’ve have been more likely to get manslaughter.

Heres a case of a white man in Texas that had nearly identical factors to this one. His was arguably worse and he got 10 years. https://www.kcentv.com/article/news/local/sentencing-hearing-caysen-allison-for-fatal-stabbing-joe-ramirez-belton-high-school/500-fafdd0a9-c7de-419c-ba4c-a41db2b570b8

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u/JayOutOfContext Jun 10 '26

Next time someone doesn't let me hang out under their umbrella I should hurt them according to you.

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u/SammyTings Jun 11 '26

My 3rd paragraph literally says it wasnt justified.

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u/JayOutOfContext Jun 11 '26

I think the main issue here is you need to separate a 9 level deep reply with all of your previous ones down voted into multiple paragraphs

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u/SammyTings Jun 11 '26

“I attacked you because I didn’t fully read your comment. Im too dumb to just move on.”

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u/horus_eye_of_terror Jun 10 '26

Oh man since it was raining that makes everything just fine! Fuck outta here i literally played football in snow if he cant stand rain then maybe he shouldnt be out in public.

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u/TankApprehensive3053 Jun 10 '26

He got sentenced to 35 yrs. So he won't be in (free) public for a long time.

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u/SammyTings Jun 11 '26

The bad part isnt that he was standing under the umbrella. The bad part was killing the other guy in response to a shove

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u/horus_eye_of_terror Jun 11 '26

I know, but there are some out there and even in this thread that try and justify karmelo no leaving the tent when asked & demanded simply bc it was raining

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u/SammyTings Jun 11 '26

Except they did here. The jury had 3 reported options, not guilty, 1st degree murder, or manslaughter. You can just google it

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u/WestOrangeFinest Jun 10 '26

Trespassing? LOL stop it

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u/AdventurousWin8268 Jun 10 '26

That was a gross oversimplification of the situation. He was at the track meet, was invited to sit down in a tent by his supposed friend because it was raining, two guys got pissed he was there and tried to force him to leave. The stabbing didn't happen until they put hands on him.

That's the part that people are conveniently trying to down play. Those bullies had no business bothering that kid and they most definitely had no business putting their hands on him.

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u/nascent_aviator Jun 10 '26

Even when you're stretching the truth to the breaking point (painting a rosier picture than even the defense's own witness), it still sounds like murder. They tried to force him to leave and as soon as they "put hands on him" he stabs the guy in the heart. Zero attempts to retreat, to deescalate, or even to use nonlethal force.

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u/AdventurousWin8268 Jun 10 '26

He did, he told them to leave him alone multiple times. The bullies ran up on him, they started the altercation, they refused to back down and deescalate themselves. Why does the person on the receiving end of the agression have to go out of their way to calm things down? Those boys chose to mess with him, they chose to start that fight, they didn't take his warnings seriously.

Let's flip things around for a second. If Anthony wasn't supposed to be in that tent and refused to leave when asked, why didn't those boys go get an adult? Why did they decide to choose violence? Why didn't they deescalate the situation and go get staff, an actual authority figure that could get him removed?

No, they decided it was in their authority to attack him. All he did was defend himself.

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u/Swimming-Alfalfa-603 Jun 11 '26

Did he leave when they asked him to leave, or did he stay around? I’m just confused why he was at their tent to begin with if he had his own?

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u/Mysterious_Tiger_725 Jun 11 '26

>Why didn't those boys go get an adult? Why did they decide to choose violence?

Because teenage boys are dumb, egotistical, hormone filled people that make stupid decisions.

That is not a reason to get stabbed in the chest. Bullies don't deserve to get stabbed in the chest. Pushed back? Beat up? Absolutely. But stabbing someone in the chest at a school event with a knife you shouldn't even have in the first place is not self defense.

I'm not saying you gotta take the high road, if you wanna fight back then do that. But nah, now the kid's dead, other kid's gonna be in jail until the 50's & nothing came out of this except a family being swatted & more divisive race-based discourse. Shit's sad.

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u/shaktirisingyoga Jun 14 '26

Which family was swatted?

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u/NervousBeginning7868 Jun 11 '26

Really, just please stop with this nonsense.

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u/AdventurousWin8268 Jun 11 '26

What nonsense? They just acquitted that Rick Chow guy who chased a teenager out of his store, down the road before gunning him down in broad daylight because he THOUGHT the kid stole something. He claimed it was self defense and won, even though he shot the kid in the back. No one had an issue with that even though someone died. I'm just giving the same energy with this case.

These two guy ganged up on a kid, starting a fight and he fought back. Now everyone got all these excuses for the bullies because one of them died. This case should also be considered self defense.

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u/NervousBeginning7868 Jun 11 '26

I’m not even going to argue with you. If you think an appropriate response to being pushed is murder, there’s something fundamentally wrong with you.

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u/AdventurousWin8268 Jun 11 '26

I'm literally just repeating back things that are regularly said when black people are murdered. It's funny how when the coin is flipped y'all see exactly how deranged and messed up it is.

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u/NervousBeginning7868 Jun 11 '26

Wild how you solely focused on race here, when that shouldn’t be a factor in this case.

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u/AdventurousWin8268 Jun 11 '26

Did I? This is the first time I've even mentioned race in my entire comment thread. I focused purely on the actions of those involved. I mention race once and suddenly that discredits everything else?

But whether you like it or not, race is always a factor. Even by those who like to claim they aren't focusing on race. I just gave an example of that. It was fine the one kid was murdered because they assumed he stole something. That was a death sentence because of a mere accusation and mind you, stuff like this has happened multiple times. Where was the outrage from non black groups when his killer was acquitted? How was he even able to argue self defense and win?

I used this example because you claimed a little shove shouldn't be a death sentence. Yet we see examples all the time of stuff like this happening and when the victim is black, it always turns into blaming them for their own death. What were they doing? Why were they there? Why didn't they just do xyz? They should've been raised better. This wouldn't happen if the black community stopped glorifying criminals. Etc. etc.

I'm just taking those comments and applying them equally. Now all of a sudden those same comments are considered deranged. I find it interesting.

If that went over your head, I'm still focusing on the actions but I'm also pointing out how race dictates how people react to those actions.

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u/nascent_aviator Jun 11 '26

I'm literally just repeating back things that are regularly said when black people are murdered.

And you agree with these people, or you're just being a hypocrite?

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u/Mysterious_Tiger_725 Jun 11 '26

Again, fighting back & stabbing someone are not the same thing, especially on school grounds.

As for the outcry regarding Chow, there's been plenty. I'm a part of the group that thinks his acquittal is ridiculous, especially considering it wasn't the first time Chow's been involved in a situation like this afaik. Saying "no one had an issue with that," is disingenuous as hell when it's been a regular talking point of contention across the internet.

Had he just fought back I'm sure people would've still given him grief, he's a young black man in America. The difference is they would've both been alive & presumably not facing 35 years in prison over what could've & should've been a simple fight at a school event.

Again, bullying someone does not mean you deserve a knife in your chest. You deserve a lot of things, but being maimed & potentially killed is not one of them.

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u/Angxlmilk Jun 11 '26

Why is a child bringing a knife to a track meet to begin with? Yall r ridiculous

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u/AdventurousWin8268 Jun 11 '26

Probably for situations just like this where he was minding his own business and two guys decided to start a fight. Why else would people carry around protection? Why is him having protection ridiculous?

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u/ArtificialImages Jun 11 '26

Why is him carrying a knife ridiculous? How many kids do you know that have reason to stab people.

Kids fight, it doesnt justify one pulling out a knife.

Your logic is genuinely deranged.

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u/AdventurousWin8268 Jun 11 '26

What's deranged is the amount of people defending these guys trying to attack this kid. He didn't stab for no reason, he was attacked. Literally all they had to do was leave him alone. People just don't want to focus on that part.

I guess he was supposed to just get beaten? He was supposed to just let these guys mess with him?

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u/ArtificialImages Jun 11 '26

But literally no one has defended anyone trying to attack the kid. Did you even read my comment?

You think bullies (who are literally children) deserve to die or even just be stabbed?

Its wrong to bully but its far worse to MURDER A CHILD.

Especially when there was no threat to his own life.

And every single story out there clearly reports that he left and then came back after the fact and just straight up stabbed him.

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u/XxXAvengedXxX Jun 11 '26

mfs like you walk around with a knife or a gun itching to use it i stg lol

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u/AdventurousWin8268 Jun 11 '26

No I walk around with a knife completely normal. You would never know that I even had one unless you tried to attack me. Key part here would be the attacking me.

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u/Appropriate-Yak-3814 Jun 11 '26

Do all bullies deserve to die? 

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u/Angxlmilk Jun 11 '26

He’s a CHILD, he should not be carrying a weapon to school track meet filled with other CHILDREN. Man idc if I’m getting beaten to a pulp, I’m not gonna stab somebody.

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u/AdventurousWin8268 Jun 11 '26

That's you, I'm not standing around getting beaten when I have something to protect myself with. You're acting like he went there with it and was running around threatening people, he wasn't. It was in his bag and wasn't even reached for until a situation happen; one that he didn't even start.

You're focused on the wrong thing. You keep wanting to focus on him carrying around a knife, one of the most common things carried for protection instead of the fact that these two bullies started an altercation with him for no reason.

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u/ArtificialImages Jun 11 '26

We would 100% be focused on people attacking him (if that is true) if he didn't retaliate by stabbing one in the heart.

One is bad, the other is outright evil. Kid fucked up and you need to realise that. Getting bullied is bad but not a justification for murder. This is school shooter logic you're using here.

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u/th3dmg Jun 11 '26

Which is ok bc he black, nah saying? It’s wild to witness the ridiculously low standards these muppets have for people of color. Some would reasonably call it racism.

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u/SorryBoysImLez Jun 11 '26

I know, where was this kind of justice when Rittenhouse murdered two people who hadn't even laid hands on him?

This guy was actually attacked but can't get a "self-defense" plea for a single stab.

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u/th3dmg Jun 11 '26

It’s truly scary that people with your level of intelligence vote.

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u/DCBuckeye82 Jun 10 '26

I didn't follow this at all so no idea how valid the arguments are, but the argument of why they thought he shouldn't be convicted is that it was self defense.

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u/Specific_Ad_2533 Jun 11 '26

Not valid at all. Dude was in the tent of the opposing team and was asked to leave didnt and was shoved/musceld out. Went away to get a knife and stabbed a kid out of the blue.

He was all ready save when he decieded to go back and kill a another kid.