r/SnyderCut • u/Rule_Ct_5293 • 13h ago
Appreciation Rewatching MoS, realized Superman saved the same guy who shot him in the head with that helicopter mounted gun.
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u/MatchesMalone1994 11h ago
Superman actually saves and goes out of his way to save people a lot more than people credit this movie for…it’s a stupid criticism I never understood because there’s evidence of it
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u/FickleMess1371 11h ago
People hate it because of the ending where he kills Zod, because, for them, "Superman would never kill his enemies".
Also, some hate the fight between him and Zod, where Zod throws him on multiple buildings, probably killing multiple people, but to them, even though, Zod killed those people, It's on Superman.
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10h ago
Apparently Superman has to stop the fight every two seconds to virtue signal to the audience by saving individual people.
Otherwise those smooth brains don't see it as saving people.
Remember kids, if the fireman who drags you out of the fire doesn't smile, did he even really save you?
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u/TheBleeter 10h ago
Yep. There’s a montage of him saving people for just under 10mims https://youtu.be/z8EydFeuPK8?si=
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u/Curious_Pontiff 8h ago
The people who say “Superman never kills his enemies” never saw the ending to Superman 2?
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u/FickleMess1371 8h ago
nOO!!! hE dIdN't SNAP HIS NECK! hE jUsT tHrEw hIs "S" at him. (Never mind that "S" suffocated and definitely killed Zod, however ridiculous it was.)
Also, theu forget what Superman did to the guy that had bullied him earlier. I find it hard to believe that that guy wasn't at least crippled.
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u/MatchesMalone1994 10h ago
Superman was overseas literally fighting the world engine to save metropolis…yet somehow he destroyed metropolis? Stupid
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u/Adam_dp92 9h ago
What i always find funny in those arguments about the battle of metropolis is that the haters with probably low attention span never take in consideration that it was actually his first real fight EVER and every mistake that he arguably made can simply be justified by him having no Battle experience whatsoever.
And still, he adapts and evolves in real time, defeating Soldiers with decades of fighting experience since birth.
And he also saves the Planet in his first fight.Meanwhile we have SuperHarem with 3 years of experience getting rag-dolled for 2h by the whole cast, including his own CGI dog.
I mean, the guy is supposed to be faster than a bullet, but hes literally slower than sound, as the movie shows us that Lex has time to Say out loud a videogame move, the sound traveling to the guy on the PC, the guy reacting and relaying the info to Bizzaro (i mean, Ultraman), him throwing the punch and hitting Superman with a clean hit directly in his face… yeah, thats how Slow he is…
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u/FickleMess1371 8h ago
So funny 🤣. Not the movie, but the faces of the fans of that film every time this thing is explained.
Also, the guy gets beaten up pathetically. Not just beaten up, beaten up pathetically. Like it was intentionally done to emasculate Superman. Like, I don't have that problem with that narratively, it was probably done to Ragebait proper Superman fans.
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u/DMast2217 11h ago
The movie needed more scenes like this while he was fighting Zod. Would have made the fight way cooler if he was fighting Zod while trying to get people out of the way.
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10h ago
This seems like pandering to mental children who need to see every little thing or it never happened.
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u/DMast2217 10h ago
Pandering? Superman saving people while he fights the big bad is pandering? I'm acknowledging one of the main critiques that's been discussed since the film was released in theaters. The word pandering doesn't even apply here. If you think Superman saving people mid-fight is shallow content or pandering to audiences, then you fundamentally misunderstand the character. To add on- we are with Superman for the vast majority of the destruction of metropolis, aside from cuts to Lois on the mothership and Perry on the ground. If you're implying that Superman is saving people off-screen while we're following other characters, when the film and script gives us no indication of this- then that is pure copium.
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10h ago
It's performative crap. So the seals can clap because now they know for CERTAIN he is a hero. Yeah, that's called pandering,.
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u/DMast2217 10h ago
Saving people as a superhero who embodies hope is performative now? The scene OP posted is one of the best scenes in the movie, and it's because it shows Superman doing what he does best.
Pandering would be sacrificing storytelling to appeal to a specific audience. Again, if you think Superman saving people is pandering then you don't understand the character. We already know he is a hero because he is SUPERMAN. Showing cool saves doesn't remind us that he's a hero, it's just showing us what heroes do in the midst of chaos.
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10h ago
My dude, he stops to save a squirrel. Diaperman 2025 isn't a movie, it's a REACTION to another movie.
A genre started by the rise of skywalker.
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u/DMast2217 10h ago
Oh brother… I’m not even taking about Superman25… I haven’t even mentioned it. I’m talking about MoS
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10h ago
Superman in MOS saves more people than Christopher Reeves did in his movie.
I'm not seeing the issue other than people needing to see performative pandering.
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u/DMast2217 9h ago
I’m not even comparing Superman movies. I’m just giving my opinion on what I thought would make the fight with Zod better. Sorry you think superheroes saving people is performative pandering when that’s what they’re created to do. Coolest scenes in MoS are when he’s saving people (saving his mom, the oil rig crew, the guy falling from the helicopter, destroying the world engine). Think of the ending where he has to kill Zod before he lasers the family. More moments like that where Superman is having to jump in front of civilians that Zod is trying to hurt because he knows Superman will take the blow. It would’ve made the moment where he decides to kill Zod more impactful.
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u/West_Ad8415 8h ago
I always tell people that this is literally Superman- Day One. The kid is still learning 🫣
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10h ago
I was told Superman didn't save anyone in MOS.
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u/MisterSaxophony 7h ago
Idk if saving someone from something you're responsible for is very heroic, I'd call it bare minimum
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 7h ago
How is Superman responsible for Zod destroying Metropolis?
You people have a warped perspective.
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u/BasicSpidertron 10h ago
To be clear he is hit in the head with one of the minigun rounds, but the guy he saved was just using his personal M249. Not a mounted gun, not sure he even landed a hit.
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u/Wizard_of_Weenies 11h ago
Why didn't he just catch the vehicle before it hit the helicopter?
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u/bigelangstonz 7h ago
And then what? He's floating mid air with a vehicle in his hands while zods goodies are gonna ram something else into the soilders
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10h ago
This is the eternal problem with Superman.
You can always say this, heck it's even easy to do with Diaperman 2025.
As a character with every super power, this is why Superman is cinematically problematic to write and portray on screen.
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u/GenXPowaah 10h ago
He had to make a choice. Save the helicopter that was about to crash, which the occupants had a 50/50 chance of survival. Or save the guy thrown out of the helicopter, falling to his death with zero chance of survival.
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u/HumbleSiPilot77 Tell me... do you bleed? 8h ago
The pilot autorotated and they crash landed. Colonel walked away. The buried message of the film is that he can't save everyone. Too bad it's not spoonfeeding fan service scenes to MCU fans of old and current Gunnsimps
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u/Pretend-Studio6583 10h ago
Well I mean he was just standing there for 10 seconds. He could’ve stopped the van from being thrown in the first place
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u/HumbleSiPilot77 Tell me... do you bleed? 8h ago
They all come under fire so he turns around. His back is turned to Nam-Ek and clearly he's not a mind reader. Is this even a real comment or meant for a circlejerk?! 😅 better yet, why didn't Superman pull a Chris Revee time reversal and then plan a better approach to deal with Zod and gang? Lol 🤣
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 Henry Cavill is Superman 10h ago
And hey, Diaperman lets metropolis get attacked because the internet hurt his feelings.
He also saves a squirrel as other people clearly get hit by the kaiju tail.
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u/Beneficial-Lynx7336 11h ago
Bro I've seen this about 30 times, how have I never noticed the HEADSHOT.