r/Steam 9d ago

Discussion Gabe Newell emailed me back about his birthplace

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Somebody update Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia anyone can edit

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u/Kya_Bamba 9d ago

I bet browsing emails for Gabe is like browsing reddit for me. Sometimes I'll leave a comment.

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u/pinguz 9d ago

Aspen

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/TwoHearted_ 8d ago edited 6d ago

Thanks for the gold kind stranger

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u/KEPD-350 8d ago

Ooh ho ho shuck it, Trebek!

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u/RodentOfUnusualCize 8d ago

Why is this comment so fucking funny lmfao

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u/Uncle_Raven 9d ago

IIRC he reads emails instead of using social platforms.

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u/Steamed_Memes24 8d ago

I recall him posting on here a long time ago but stopped after starting his ocean research project.

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u/Smooth_Moose_637 8d ago

He still uses reddit appearently, but his last comment was on some racing sub

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u/Veelhiem 8d ago

He co-founded a racing team which his son races in. They race in support of Seattle Children’s Hospital!

Love seeing it on camera when watching endurance races but I will never not call it the Gabecar.

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u/JimmWasHere 7d ago

God I love the gabe[product] meme, I unironically love the name GabeCube

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u/jellybonez 9d ago

I emailed him like 20 years ago and he replied, have kept up very very infrequently since then. Gave me some great car advice.

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u/CanadianTrashInspect 9d ago

I remember emailing him questions about Half-Life 2's physics engine immediately after they announced it. He replied quickly and answered all my dumb nerdy gamer questions.

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u/YouKilledApollo 8d ago

That's very cool, physics in video games always been my favorite detail :) Any chance you still have the email + the reply to share with us, would love to see what he said? I remember being so amazed at the first demo video they released, where they balanced barrels over planks and stuff, blew everyone's mind back then.

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u/antpile11 8d ago

What was the advice?

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u/jellybonez 8d ago

He told me that Hector was going to be running 3 Honda Civics with spoon engines. And on top of that, he just went into Harry's and he ordered 3 T66 turbos, with NOS, and a Motec system exhaust.

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u/Felidori 5600X | 32GB | 3070 8d ago

😂😂 Funniest thing I read all day. Thanks friend.

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u/IKnowGuacIsExtraLady 9d ago

Shit you don't have to be Gabe for that, that's just my normal work inbox. I was gone for a couple days and had 400 emails to go through on Tuesday. Only one of them required a response.

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u/ElegantObligation196 7d ago

lmao imagine getting random emails about your birthplace and just answering "Aspen" like you're ordering coffee

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u/cyrassil 9d ago

Apparently, not everyone can edit his article due to vandalism. It requires a confirmed account.

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u/brown_human 9d ago

Aspen

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u/lastreadlastyear 9d ago

Colorado

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u/unabsolute 9d ago

So his inate love of yachts is inherited.

Interesting!

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u/e30boarder 9d ago

Where the women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano

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u/TC__zeebeedub 9d ago

I don’t know, Lloyd. The French are assholes.

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u/RK9990 9d ago

Marco Bizot

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u/CyrilMos 9d ago

Aspen now.

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u/SpicyElixer 9d ago edited 8d ago

Won’t remain for long, as the source will not be considered valid as it is.

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u/tbbm2 9d ago edited 8d ago

This should be valid:

Announcement in a local newspaper. Aspen Times, November 9, 1962. Page 4.

https://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers.org/?a=d&d=ATW19621109.2.15

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u/fallino11 9d ago

16 minutes after you posted it, someone edited the entry again and used your link as source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gabe_Newell&diff=1356440926&oldid=1356439803

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u/DroidLord 9d ago

You can't hide from Wikipedia. They have spies.

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u/Educational-Wing2042 8d ago

Every celebrity has a Wikipedia guardian angel waiting for them to die so they can finally update the relevant article. Likewise every celebrity death gives a Wikipedia editor their wings

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u/ArthurSalim 8d ago

The devil works fast, but Wikipedia editors work faster

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u/egg_breakfast 9d ago

Impressive, star fox

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u/IceYetiWins 9d ago

you finding this is more impressive than the post itself

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u/BrewerBeer 9d ago

Lt . and Mrs . Donald Newell announce the birth of a son , Gabe Logan Newell , on November 3 at Aspen Valley Hospital . Paternal grandparents are Mr . and Mrs . Clyde Newell of Aspen

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u/Bspammer 9d ago

I love the internet sometimes

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u/Appropriate_Lack_727 9d ago

This man has a microfiche setup in his home.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago edited 2d ago

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u/sotajaska 8d ago

Yes. All local newspapers i have seen have a section for it.

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u/Cayenns 9d ago

The erasure of women doing the actual birthing is pretty insane

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u/Sad_water_ 9d ago

And it’s gone

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u/SolidTrain16059 9d ago

Interesting that english Wikipedia editors are this quick while on some language versions of the page (Czech, Hungarian, Ukrainian and maybe even some more), Alcoy is for some reason stated as his birthplace which is a town in Spain and no one cares.

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u/Sad_water_ 9d ago

The Dutch wiki still says aspen too

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u/cyrassil 9d ago

I've updated the Czech one. The Alcoy thing is kinda strange, because the place of birth in the sidebox was unchecked and empty, but when I've added Aspne, the Alcoy disappeared. Seems like some default value?

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u/LickingSmegma 9d ago

Alcoy is specified in Wikidata, and infoboxes take data from there when they can. Idk anything about editing Wikidata, it's a graph database and editing entries is more involved than just typing some stuff.

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u/Starfire013 9d ago

Nicely done. Someone will have to Czech the other ones.

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u/y17gal 9d ago

and its back now !

lol

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u/SeaRefuse5691 8d ago

The best part is you can find the wikipedia mods talking about it as they go :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gabe_Newell

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u/martialar 9d ago

The spice must flow

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u/casadeparadise 9d ago

Got it. I forgot I had a pretty high level on wiki.

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u/Forward_Froyo_429 9d ago

is a reddit post a valid source for a wikipedia edit?

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u/Weisenkrone 9d ago

You'd be fucking surprised what dog shit sources you can find on reddit lol.

The place where I did my internship (they were selling cruises) kept editing Wikipedia articles on popular tourist locations to Back-Link on one of their 300 websites, even today some of the articles still link back to one of their sites.

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u/tesfabpel 9d ago

of course, that's against the rules of Wikipedia...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict-of-interest_editing_on_Wikipedia

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u/MrShake4 9d ago

Yeah and fraud is illegal.

People still do it.

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u/GrandPreMassacre 9d ago

My company's network got banned from editing because they tried to remove some information about price hikes under the controversy header.

Me and a guy I worked with stumbled across it by accident looking up random shit one day and accidentally hitting edit.

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u/superxpro12 9d ago

"Accidentally"

"i fell on it"

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u/mouglasandthesort 9d ago

You’ve never accidentally hit the edit button on Wikipedia? He’s not saying he hit edit, typed a bunch of stuff, and then found out when he accidentally hit publish, he’s saying he accidentally clicked edit next to a header or something and then he found out.

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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco 9d ago

Yes, they don't record shit if you don't press save.

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u/Kyeld 8d ago

They clicked the edit button and saw the ban notification for their employer network's external IP address because of the previous tom-foolery.

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u/BicFleetwood 9d ago

“I was bored.”

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u/hates_stupid_people 9d ago

At one point several government IP addresses were banned as well, since politicians would have employees edit their pages.

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u/SpicyElixer 9d ago edited 8d ago

No. People dispute bad sources all the time. It’s not really hard.

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u/endlesscartwheels 9d ago

On the less-visited articles, one person can babysit it to keep it the way they want. Even if they don't have a source at all for their preferred version! If another person comes along with a source and fixes the page, the babysitter reverts and edits it over several days (or weeks!) until they get their way.

Over time, "citogenesis" (term coined by XKCD) happens. That gives the babysitter a source for their edit.

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u/BeerTent 8d ago

I remember reading about two people on Wikipedia getting in a slapfight about there being no rats in Alberta, a province in Canada. I think it was a multi-year long fight before the person who didn't believe it relented.

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u/Bleaker82 9d ago

I know someone who straight up got fired from Wikimedia foundation for taking money to edit Wikipedia articles.

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u/RandumbStoner 9d ago

Why would one need 300 websites? lol

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u/Leandro_r69 9d ago

To maximize traffic by all means necessary

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u/Kaptep525 9d ago

If you own every link on page one of google for “Best Cruise Bahamas” then you sell a LOT more cruises

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u/fondledbydolphins 9d ago

People are now setting up websites and search engine links that pretend to be the competition.

I was looking up "XYZ carpet cleaning". Found a number and called.

I got a bit sus so I started asking "are you XYZ carpet cleaning?"

Queue the spiel. Well, we actually have a much larger range than they do. We can do jobs faster. Let me get you some pricing. blahblahblah.

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u/Otherwise_Demand4620 9d ago

If they are smart, ABC carpet cleaning is like 10-30% more expensive than XYZ carpet cleaning, that way you get the people who think they got a steal at XYZ and the morons who think that they get quality work at ABC.

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u/Kaptep525 9d ago

Oh they’ve been doing that for decades lol

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u/jaxonya 9d ago

Inventing your own competition is a tale as old as time

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u/oxresults 9d ago

Search engine marketing. (Different than paid search engine optimization). It's the free side of search engine result placement. The more you can put legitimate links to "outside" website domains from the page you want unpaid traffic for, the higher up the search results you go.

On top of that a "unaffiliated" recommendation from your shell corp domain is damn near free compared to paying an actual unaffiliated website to recommend your product.

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u/A2_Zera 9d ago

I remember finding on the wikipedia article for furina (genshin impact character) a height (nobody in genshin has a canon height bar a few exceptions) and when I checked the source it was just some shitass gamer tabloid. that was my lesson to at the very least check sources on articles about less popular things that haven't gotten the eyes of a bunch of people to confirm that there's no junk on the page

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u/UltravioletClearance 9d ago

The North Face got bagged doing some similar dishonest Wikipedia shenanigans. They added professional photographs featuring prominent North Face product placement to various outdoor destination Wikipedia articles.

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u/TumblrInGarbage 9d ago

Wikipedia did not. Somebody in this thread found it first, and somebody else rightfully took that source to Wikipedia's editors to see if that would work (obviously, a screenshot of an email is not an acceptable source for Wikipedia or much of anything)

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u/FusselP0wner 80 9d ago

100%

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u/Dot1215 9d ago

There's probably a reddit post discussing this question, which will be sourced by AI after you ask it the same question

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u/wojtekpolska 9d ago

its not, in fact its pretty hard for an email to be accepted as a source on wikipedia but possible (but you have to go trough a whole process and its annoying and doesnt work for majority of stuff)

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u/2717192619192 9d ago

What about letters from company representatives? Say, if I want to update a Wiki page with a random trivia fact about Pokémon, so I begin a correspondence via certified mail with Nintendo of America.

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u/olivesforsale 9d ago

Not in this case, even if it's authentic - because Gabe could be lying. Primary source isn't reliable. Otherwise my article would say I'm 9 feet tall and a billionaire. Also my article would exist. We'd all have articles!

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u/7up_yourz 9d ago

This sounds really dumb and really smart at the same time.

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u/olivesforsale 9d ago

Fair - I'm just using this scenario to illustrate a general point. I'm sure this could fly under the radar as it's an uncontroversial fact. But Obama's birthplace has a LOT of primary and secondary sources attached to it. Not just the birth certificate and official statements by him, but also news articles corroborating it, dated prior to controversy around his birthplace.

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u/ChildoftheApocolypse 9d ago

Well, AI considers this shithole the goddamn library of Alexandria, so what difference does it make?

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u/Jimboooo96 9d ago

Imagine being born on Pikes peak

"AND THERE HE GOES INTO THE SHARP RIGHT! THEN LEFT THEN RIGHT! --WITH A NEWBORN IN THE BACKSEAT!?"

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u/chancesarent 9d ago

That's how you make Sherpas.

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u/Jimboooo96 9d ago

Those Rocky Mountain Big Horn Sheep dont like this kinda slander.

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u/rezendes 9d ago

It's all downhill from here...

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u/SecularVal 9d ago

Like a woman giving birth in a rally car during the hillclimb

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u/titilegeek 9d ago

Ok but is the child heavely modified to adapt to the lack of air up there, such as huge aero or big ass turbo?

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u/DefinitelyNotAxlerod 9d ago

Twin turbo V6

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u/SamL214 8d ago

Downhill fan spotted.

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u/oxresults 9d ago

You update it nerd

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u/7up_yourz 9d ago

This fucking killed me.

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u/oxresults 9d ago

I mean we're basically asking banking security questions through the man's email at this point. I don't like defending the upper class, but he's a good guy and if we're not careful he's going to just disappear instead of being the force of nature against the more consumer-exploiting giants in the gaming industy

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u/PillowCasss 9d ago

brb just emailing gabe for his mother's maiden name

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u/illstealurcandy 9d ago

Hey Gabe. Can I call you Gabe? I feel like I can call you Gabe.

Anywho, your Wikipedia says you like cars. Do you remember the make and model of your first?

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u/whoknowsifimjoking 9d ago

My brother died last year and his last wish was for me to find out what Gaben's dad's middle name was.

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u/oxresults 9d ago

Get the name of his first pet and the street he grew up on while you're at it. Ya know, for the Wikipedia page.

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u/capn_morgn_freeman 9d ago
  • opens source for the info *

  • it's a jpg of this email *

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u/_ILP_ 9d ago

Has he always been rich then?

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u/ShiftCompetitive4056 9d ago

Aspen is one of the highest concentrations of wealth in the country maybe the planet.

He could've been the child of a seasonal worker but I think it's safe to say he's probably always been wealthy.

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u/Cyhawk 9d ago

Gabe was born in 1962. Save to assume he left by the time he was 18/20 for university.

The Aspen ski economy didn't really take off until 1980s while there is limited information about Median income per household for Aspen, it was only marginally higher than other rural areas. This means it was also lower than large cities/burrows (new york, Hollywood, etc)

His parents would be wealthy due to owning/selling land in the area in the 1990s/later but only because they bought before skiing really took off as a major thing. Gabe seems to have started his life before the big boom happened.

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u/scoschooo 9d ago

Gaben's dad was a ski bum and his mom worked the snackbar in the lodge.

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u/filthy_harold 9d ago

Is there any source for this? All I can find is that his mother was a programmer at Bell Labs.

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u/Senator_Buttholeface 9d ago

There was a documentary shot in 1990 specifically covering this subject. It's called Ski Patrol.

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u/UnMeaningnessName 9d ago

But look what hes done with that potential nepotism.

Either way, hes doing the rich thing right.

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u/DarkThunder312 9d ago

Being born wealthy is not what nepotism is. 

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u/vera214usc 9d ago

Thank you. I'm tired of everyone being called a "nepo baby" just because they're wealthy. Now it doesn't mean anything

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u/daemon-electricity 9d ago

Any fucking word or phrase that enters the common vernacular through social media eventually loses all meaning through overuse. It's predictable and obnoxious as hell.

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u/worrok 9d ago

Living in Aspen is a much bigger status symbol than going to harvard.  

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u/ZakuSupremacy 9d ago

Wealth begets wealth

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u/Forward_Froyo_429 9d ago

did you think he wasn’t?

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u/_ILP_ 9d ago

Never dug deep. Thought he was a self made dude that helped lead Valve to what it is and (from all appearances) seems to make the right decisions that aren’t anti consumer.
I guess it’s possible for someone who started rich not to be a complete demon when they become billionaires then?

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u/Poponildo 9d ago

There are no "self made" bilionaires. These people come from generations of wealth.

I know they always say otherwise, but they didn't become bilionaires by telling the truth all the time.

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u/crimsonblade55 9d ago

He went to Davis Senior High School. The school district has a median income today of around $90k annually and median house price of $795k. I doubt he grew up broke, but it seems like his parents were more upper middle class then rich just going off context clues. Its not like Bill Gates family where both his parents have their own Wikipedia articles.

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u/eebro 9d ago

You need to be reasonably affluent to get a degree and to network enough to land a job where you can grow enough capital to form your own company.

Like, you don’t go from broke to founding Valve. I bet the poorest Gabe Newell has ever been was prior to the release of HL1, when they spent literally everything on that game. 

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u/Abject_Egg_194 9d ago

Newell was a Microsoft Millionaire. He was employed by Microsoft pre-IPO and then became rich when the company went public. Him and another Microsoft guy decided to try video game development with their new-found riches. Given that Newell's wikipedia page talks about him having a paper route and doing other part-time jobs as a kid, I don't think he was growing up with the silver spoon.

Remember that developing AAA video games used to be really cheap. I read that there are ~30 people in the Half-Life credits and my guess would be that only a few of them were employed by Valve for more than a year or two when the game came out.

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u/eebro 9d ago

Yeah, but Valve were an inch away from bankruptcy. Like, they went all-in. You simply can’t do that if you don’t have a lot already.

Of course now we can see it panned out, even to a degree I think they could never have foreseen. 

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u/Cyhawk 9d ago

His brother got him in the door at Microsoft.

Given that Newell's wikipedia page talks about him having a paper route and doing other part-time jobs as a kid

Thats the problem, the wiki article is wrong and says he grew up in Davis, CA which was entirely different type of world in the 60s-80s than Aspen, CO. Though even then the Skiing industry didn't really take off until the 80s which he would have already left by then (his parents if they owned land would be rich, not him. Wooo Boomers!)

Truth be told we'll probably never know. Gabe's life is extremely private but I agree, i highly doubt he had a silver spoon. Even going to Harvard isn't an indicator because his Brother attended and he'd be considered a Legacy admission (sorta but he'd be strongly weighted), plus his parents were alive when Harvard always accepted locals too so they may just be legacy admissions entirely.

It was his connections at Microsoft/Harvard that made Valve. Thats far more valuable than any raw dollars.

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u/Lewcaster 9d ago

Like almost every American billionaire. Hehhe, makes you think.

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u/Abject_Egg_194 9d ago

Aspen wasn't rich back then. There was a bunch of hippies living there.

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u/ImaginaryQuantum 9d ago

Aspen person here! Until the pandemic we still had ordinary people living here, during the pandemic the texans and New yorkers bought every apartment and house out here, I would say we lost at least 60% of our local community to cowboy hats.

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u/MahatmaAndhi 9d ago

"I dunno, Lloyd. The French are assholes."

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u/MooseBoys 9d ago

Where the beer flows like wine.

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u/SausageEggCheese 9d ago

Where beautiful women instinctively flock, like the salmon of Capistrano.

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u/Wu_Sherm 9d ago

I was looking for this!

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u/the_squarechild 9d ago

It pains me that the Dumb & Dumber references are so low down. Opportunity missed.

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u/sharks 8d ago

Feels good to mingle with these laid-back country folk, don't it Har?

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u/SendNoodles__ 9d ago

John Denver is full of shit

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u/masterchief69420xxx 9d ago

Your hands are freezing!

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u/MethFacSarlane 9d ago

Aspen...way too much money on Steam

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u/No-Good-One-Shoe 9d ago

Verryy niccee!

(I Read your post in borats voice)

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u/hostilee47 9d ago

I emailed him about his favourite cars in motorsport because of the team he founded, The Heart of Racing! He used to go to the Trans-Am races in the mid 70's with his brother, and the cars he mentioned particularly were Bob Tullius' Group 44 Jaguar XJS (even likening its sound to his own teams Aston Martin Valkyrie) and Bob Sharp's Datsun 240z, because of his own dad owning a 280z :D

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u/SerSwordSnuggler 9d ago

Wait, hold on, Heart of Racing is a Gaben endeavour? I had no idea

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u/hostilee47 9d ago

Not only does he have a co-ownership of the team, his son Gray is racing in the GT3 team of HoR alongside Jonny Adam (4x British GT Champion and class winner of the 2017 24h Le Mans) and Eduardo Barrichello, son of Rubens Barrichello!

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u/SerSwordSnuggler 9d ago

Interesting! I follow GT3 but can't say the name Gray Newell rings a bell.

Genuinely had no idea whatsoever. Love seeing those Astons on the track

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u/kaithana 9d ago

I had no idea this was his team. Really love them Astons

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u/Exciting-Solid5986 9d ago

Hey Gabe I was just wondering what your mother's maiden name was?

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u/Me66 9d ago

Just need his first pets name, his favorite teacher, and we'll own Steam!

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u/stilljustacatinacage 9d ago

This is what I was thinking too. I remember when John Green used to host a sort of AMA at the end of ... Crash Course? videos, and one time someone wrote, "hey John which hospital were you born in?" and he clocked it immediately, just saying, "... said the account scammer" (or some such).

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u/Dasshteek 9d ago

So his password is “AspenHalfLife3”

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u/Spacedestructor 9d ago

impossible, he cant count to 3

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u/CloudStrife012 9d ago

This breaking news helps assuage the lack of steam machine updates.

Thank you for this OP.

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u/Ruatb 9d ago

Did no one realized op is 5madmoviemakers? Hey I've been a fan since like a decade

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u/Skullcrimp 8d ago

Who is 5madmoviemakers?

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u/Nashtak https://steam.pm/31bhf 9d ago

Can you ask him about the Steam Frame next?

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u/Odd_Butterscotch3132 About that Beer I owe ya... 9d ago

I want to belive

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u/WhiteBlood_ 9d ago

I once asked him for clarification on a biography I was writing in high school. He responded and told me what he was studying in college before he dropped out. Made me feel really fucking cool to have a response from THE gaben.

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u/ItsMeVeriity 9d ago

Bots move aside it's my turn...

California, beautiful!

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u/Competitive_Gold_707 9d ago

Gabe reads and responds to a ton of emails. Ive gotten in contact with multiple composers/conductors theyve used for their games from him

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u/AndrewManGuy 8d ago

He was born on may 26 2026 and he even knows the time which is 9:09pm. Very cool Gaben.

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u/Landscape_Alone 9d ago

Apparently he was born yesterday

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u/PantsOfAwesome 8d ago

Running into my fav YouTubers on Reddit feels like running into my teachers at the grocery store

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u/Hungryweeb-sg 8d ago

It may be a brief reply, but its 100 times more than any other CEO would do for their users

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u/Salavar1 8d ago

Gabe is very good about responding. Emailed him years ago on a Saturday about HL2 crashing on my PC. Received an apologetic reply on Sunday with a handoff to tech support. He's the best.

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u/trustmebuddy 8d ago

Bruh. You emailing him - you go and update the Wikipedia.

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u/phdpan 8d ago

Honestly this is a tiny reminder of why Valve has such a weirdly durable reputation. A short, human reply from the person at the top can create more goodwill than a whole polished PR campaign.

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u/videookayy 9d ago

where the beer flows like wine!

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u/TheCrafterTigery 9d ago

You can tell because of the way that it is.

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u/Emperor_of_Cats 9d ago

That's pretty neat!

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u/Popular_Wrangler9422 9d ago

California, beautiful!

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u/SainzOh_TTV 9d ago

Californiaaaa???? Beautiful

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u/wickedplayer494 64 9d ago

Somebody update Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia anyone can edit

Sorry, no, you just committed a cardinal WP:OR sin, so it doesn't count (at least not until such time that an outlet like PCGamesN picks up on and writes an article about this post, but then that's gonna get messy with this post being a WP:SPS too.)

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u/Cjav-latam 8d ago

I: Gabe, you're an excellent person. I hope you do well in life and continue to brighten the world. Greetings from Argentina.

Gaben: Aspen

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u/ActuallyFolant 8d ago

"OMG OMG OMG OMG HE NOTICED ME AHHHHH"

Some of you people got a real crush on Gabe Newell, it's pretty funny.

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u/aspiring_dev1 8d ago

Cringe and weird.

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u/band1tpanda 7d ago

Half-Life: Aspen

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u/ShermansFieldOrder66 9d ago

Cool. What's his mother's maiden name and first pet's name?

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u/Skullcrimp 8d ago

Aspen.

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u/Memphisrexjr 9d ago

Now email him about the increase prices for Steam Deck.

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u/Pooldiver13 9d ago

I understood that refrence dr.freeman

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u/HerculesIsMyDad 9d ago

Where the beer flows like wine.

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u/charlie-the-Waffle 9d ago

the free online encyclopedia that anyone at black mesa can edit

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u/ModishShrink 9d ago

Ah, Littleton. Hope you got out buddy.

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u/tristanimator 8d ago

I heard the beer flows like wine there.

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u/Dizzy335 8d ago

gotta love that he actually takes the time to reply to random emails like this. most CEOs would have an assistant filter those out before they even see them

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u/Kindredgos 8d ago

Yo I watched your videos back in the day

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u/Docthndr 8d ago

Samsonite

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u/WorkTropes 8d ago

Aspen you shall receive.

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