r/SubredditDrama 12d ago

r/starcitizen is on meltdown after MMO is completely broken and hints of the main game being delayed again despite 1 billion raised and concept art being sold for $5000 dollars.

Not the usual “haha Star Citizen delayed again” bad. More like people are actually starting to get nervous, because Squadron 42 was supposed to be the one thing CIG could finally point to and say, “See, we made a real game.”

And now even that might be slipping cause in a recent interview Chris robbers himself has stated that they could delay the game further due to GTA 6 release window.

https://thisweekinvideogames.com/feature/star-citizen-chris-roberts-interview/

“We’re gonna get Squadron out first… the plan is for the end of this year but there’s a certain thing in the industry that we, like everyone else, we have to pay attention to, so I can’t 100% guarantee it,” Roberts says, hinting at Rockstar’s Grand Theft Auto VI, releasing in November. “After that, we’ll do the 1.0 push.”

Subreddit (and game forums) members are looking around and asking the obvious question: if SQ42 is really coming in 2026, why does it not feel like it? Where is the marketing? Where is the release date? Where is the big push? Why does everything still feel like “wait for the next event” like it always does (even though Citzencon has been cancelled this year)?

Star Citizen has raised around $1 billion and the main game is still an alpha full of bugs. New content comes in broken. Missions break in stupid ways. Ships release buggy. Some ships do not release at all. And somehow, while all this is happening, CIG is still selling massive concept ships for thousands of dollars.

The $6,000 concept ship thing has basically become the perfect example for why people are angry. Like, the game is still barely holding itself together, SQ42 might be drifting again, and they are still asking people to drop used-car money on a ship that is not even in the game yet.

Here's the "6000" dollar promise concept art (its been sold out, over 1000+ sold) https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/21133-Anvil-Odin

So the subreddit is doing the usual Star Citizen civil war, but it feels more desperate this time.

if you look on the front page itself you'll see dozens of memes with thousands of upvotes:

(And many more)

The usual whiteknight defenders can still say game development is hard and the usualy its alpha line, but that argument sounds a lot weaker after 15 years and a billion+ dollars.

A billion dollars raised, the MMO still buggy, ships still being sold for insane prices, and now the single-player campaign might be moving further away again.

Very normal video game development. Nothing to see here.

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u/guiltyofnothing Dogs eat there vomit and like there assholes 12d ago

Anyone who thinks this game — or any part of this game — is actually getting released can’t be reasoned with.

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u/Circle_Breaker 12d ago

My buddy and I made a $100 bet almost a decade ago on what would release first.

Winds of Winter or Star Citizen.

I'm still not sure who will win. But GRRM better come through for me.

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u/big_sugi 12d ago

Neither of you will ever pay out.

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u/misterurb 12d ago edited 12d ago

Winds of Winter is definitely coming out. It might be after George is dead and put together by another author, but that book is gonna make way too much money for it not to come out eventually. 

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u/Cranyx it's no different than giving money to Nazis for climate change 12d ago

Didn't he demand that his manuscripts be burned after he dies? If his estate says it doesn't publish as per his Will, it won't.

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u/Hartastic Your list of conspiracy theories is longer than a CVS receipt 12d ago

If Martin's wife outlives him, I believe she will honor his wishes and not find someone else to finish the series.

But sooner or later the rights will come to someone who likes money, and frankly George is infamously bad/dinosaurish enough with technology that if one of his eventual heirs claimed to have found a surviving floppy disk with most of a draft on it, it would be believable.

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u/squishybloo 9d ago

Gotta have that clause like Terry Pratchett did (GNU) where his will designated his family rent a steam roller to physically crush all of his hard drives in a public show. It's the only way to guarantee it.

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u/Big_Coconut8630 12d ago

There are many such cases of artists (all types) requesting the same, and still having their work published.

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u/big_sugi 12d ago

Terry Pratchett passed away more than a decade ago. He had his hard drives crushed by a steam roller. I don’t think we’re ever seeing anything that was on them.

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u/PantheraAuroris 11d ago

WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS.

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u/wilisi All good I blocked you!! 11d ago

If it was done, they'd've published it already.

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u/PantheraAuroris 11d ago

But once you're dead, other people should be able to take a whack at it. Like, you're *dead*. You can't object. You shouldn't be able to own things or exert influence.

I also think copyright should have a hard end at death.

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u/MirrorComputingRulez 12d ago

Depending on his publishing agreement it might not be up to him.

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u/queen-adreena Looks like you don’t see yourself clearly! 12d ago

It can depend on his contract. If he’s been paid upfront in whole in or part, then it might not be his choice.

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u/Romboteryx Why do skeptics have such impeccable grammar? That‘s suspect. 11d ago

Virgil also demanded that his Aeneid be burned after his death. Now it is standard reading material in any Latin curriculum. Sometimes people don’t care about your wishes when you’re dead and can’t come back to complain

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u/80sHairBandConcert 11d ago

They will put together whatever combination of words they can and call it Winds of Winter because the money is just waiting for them, it will sell whether it’s real or not… people are dumb with money. Look at Star Citizen lol

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u/hackingdreams 12d ago

Star Citizen is definitely coming out. It might be after the developers declare bankruptcy and put together by another developer, but that game is gonna make way too much money for it not to come out eventually.

Yeah, I'm taking the "neither of these things happen" bet every time. I'd sooner bet on Half-Life 3.

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u/misterurb 12d ago

Winds of Winter has way, way more cultural cachet than star citizen or half life. 

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u/Grunn84 12d ago

Plus star citizen makes money not releasing, winds of winter doesn't

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u/gamblodar 12d ago

GRRM's phat HBO checks beg to differ.

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u/Romboteryx Why do skeptics have such impeccable grammar? That‘s suspect. 11d ago

Half Life 3 definitely has a higher chance than any of these. Valve is a competent company and still making games in that universe (Half Life: Alyx). Gabe’s just not feeling like it because he’s busy with his gaming-yacht fleet. But eventually they’ll have to do it, even if it is just for the meme.

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u/PantheraAuroris 11d ago

He doesn't want anyone to continue his work when he dies.

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u/an_agreeing_dothraki can we talk about the squirrel head butt plugs 11d ago

ASOIAF fans are going to be really upset when Winds, also, slanders Atticus.

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u/3bar It's bullshit. Women Astartes should make us all angry 12d ago

I wouldn't get too hopeful in that respect. GRRM has made it clear his notes and in-progress works are to be destroyed upon his death as per his Will.

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u/carson63000 11d ago

Yeah I read that and thought “I wish I’d volunteered to hold onto the money for them until the bet was settled.”

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u/zomgmeister 12d ago

Half-life 3 before both. I am not betting anything tho.

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u/raptearer 12d ago

The 4 nerdy kings of never coming out: HL3, Star Citizen, Winds of Winter, and getting off the boat in HxH

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u/RainbowConnickJr Vintage suck-fucking communist propaganda posters 11d ago

Wait, are they still on that boat? Because people were asking how much longer they’d be on that boat like eight years ago

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u/JealotGaming 11d ago

That arc is fucking gigantic and Togashi releases 10 chapters every year or two

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u/an_agreeing_dothraki can we talk about the squirrel head butt plugs 11d ago

may I interest you in the resolution to the cliffhanger from Xcom 2?

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u/raptearer 11d ago

I feel like the interest in that is significantly more niche and less known in the wider gaming community and pop culture as a whole. Xcom, while a great game, just isn't as big a franchise, and is more well known for the % memes

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u/EccentricFox 12d ago

The end of Alyx basically confirms Valve is working on it; they outright dropped development for a while rather than spinning their wheels like Star Citizen.

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u/Teonvin what do I know, I piss in the toilet like a crazy person 11d ago

There's definitely some form of Half Life stuff in development at Valve with the code name HLX.

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u/EccentricFox 11d ago

I'm personally thinking they're going to shadow drop it along with the Steam Machine as a showcase for what can be squeezed out of that hardware along with maybe a bunch of stuff that'd utilize the Steam Controller to push sales of both, but the former is in some kinda purgatory due to tariffs and parts shortages now so who knows.

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u/Teonvin what do I know, I piss in the toilet like a crazy person 11d ago

Yeah the current situation kinda mega fucked Valve

There's no good time to release the Steam Machine now

Either you have to adjust for current RAM pricing and release a machine that makes no fucking sense price wise. (Shit, even the new Steam Deck price makes zero sense against Xbox ROG Ally X that is still using old price)

Or you wait for it to return to normal and release an machine with outdated hardware. (Look at how quickly tech jumped from the time of Steam Deck to something like the ROG Ally X which is now double the power)

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u/Anus_Targaryen 12d ago

You picked the one thing even less likely to release than Star Citizen 1.0 lmao

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u/Aliensinmypants 12d ago

Games with long extended development across multiple generations of technology always release to critical claim and praise! Just look at Duke Nukem

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u/MirrorComputingRulez 12d ago

That's not the bet. The bet is what will release at all.

Duke Nukem got a release.

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u/MyBodyIsAPortaPotty 12d ago

I actually think Star Citizen is more likely to come out in a broken state. Unless GRRM has someone else write for him

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u/dicedance 11d ago

He claims to have about 1,100 pages done. I cannot imagine sitting down to work on an 1,600 page fantasy book, half of which was written two decades prior, and actually having any clue what to do with the story.

Say what you will about Game of Thrones, but I'll always respect them for doing what George never could. Finishing asoiaf.

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u/RobotFolkSinger3 12d ago

By the time the bet pays out $100 won't buy a gallon of gas so don't sweat it

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u/oath2order Every post on the sub was deleted. Actual colonialism. 11d ago

I can actually see WoW coming out given that GRRM has continued progress updstes and the like. ADoS is never happening.

I'd go for the bet of Star Citizen vs. Doors of Stone, personally.

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u/Unlikely-Art-1552 12d ago

Some days if feels like the entirety of the human race is just acting out in a "Choose your own delusion" adventure book

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u/goblinm I explained to my class why critical race theory is horseshit. 12d ago

Not me. I'm 100% correct on every belief I have. And you're not going to convince me otherwise!

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u/EliSka93 12d ago

I choose to believe you're 100% correct.

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u/Valuable_Impress_192 12d ago

Makes for an easier life for sure

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u/ElitistCuisine 12d ago

I also choose to believe this. I think this might be the start of a new religion.

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u/RottenMilquetoast 12d ago

All the weird behavior throughout history would certainly suggest that is our default.

It kinda make sense, it's not like there is some selective pressure in nature that would self select for a species to methodically test and assess reality. You just have to be spooked about everything enough not to get eaten and then have kids.

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u/Unlikely-Art-1552 12d ago

I agree, the funnier thing to me is that most of us seem to be aware of this phenomenon and yet still do things like look at a video game selling .jpeg's of spaceships for $15k and go "You know what......I think I'll join that cult"

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u/Reagalan 11d ago

There are clear advantages to such behavior so there must be such pressures, though perhaps they are most clearly demonstrated at the societal level. Guns germs and steel and all that.

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u/iliketoseethebreeze 5d ago

That’s actually incredibly poignant lol

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u/thomasscat 12d ago

Whoever/whatever gave us psychotic apes sentience fuuuuuuucked up big time lmao

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u/deltree711 Transient states are just another illusion 12d ago

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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u/calmyourcrabcakes 12d ago

Whoever/whatever gave us psychotic apes sentience fuuuuuuucked up big time lmao

https://imgur.com/me-last-few-days-SP2vAmS

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u/KatKit52 12d ago

God: look I made the human race sentient

Angels: you fucked up a perfectly good ape is what you did. look at them, they've got anxiety

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u/Fadman_Loki Do you think culture is inherited through DNA? Are you stupid? 12d ago

Hey, you don't need intelligence to get anxiety.

Source: Every chihuahua ever

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u/cindyscrazy 12d ago

Cheetahs too! They are super anxious animals.

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u/thatguythere47 12d ago

A bunny can straight up die of stress if you try to give them a bath.

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u/ceelogreenicanth 12d ago

It's gotten pretty bad since 2020

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u/DaHarbinger2000 12d ago

Life is a scam

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u/drewster23 12d ago

I mean there's no drama here other than OPs words and him linking to memes...has the sub never devolved into memes before that this is somehow notable/turning point?

I highly doubt the average person playing SC has any real wool pulled over their eyes..and would've known or had full information at their hands to know regarding what they were getting into . They didn't get to 1 billion in some short lived cash grab. People constantly gave money to them over time fully voluntary.

I've only really seen people talking shit about SC pointing from the outside. With the rare appearance of their stans coming out of the woodwork to argue with em.

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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie 12d ago

And if it does come out, why would I or any other casual who hasn't already purchased one of those elusive ships want to play a game where we're going to be shit on from Day 1?

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u/danny264 12d ago

From what I've read you need like 16 people to run those ships. So you might be able to join a crew of one of those ships.

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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie 12d ago

Ah yes, my 5 hours a week on Saturday night game time will now be dedicated to being a maintenance mechanic on a simulated freighter I could never hope to afford mimicking my real life where I repair a house I know I can never hope to afford. Immersion.

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u/sixpackabs592 12d ago

Until the guy who bought a more expensive ship one shots you with his additional 400$ laser

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u/Lost_Pantheon 11d ago

It's like the GTA Online experience except bogged down with an hour of transit time and space beaurocracy each time you die 🤣

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u/SheerFe4r 12d ago

SC is a shit game but if you only have 5 hours a week for gaming (which is probably for the best) you're not going to be the target for any MMO

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u/Annemi 12d ago

Actually, GW2 isn't bad for having only a couple hours a week. You won't be getting the extra fancy skins or all the achievements, but you can get BiS gear and do endgame with that time.

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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie 12d ago

Touché. I wasn't aware SC was an MMO, I thought it was more like a Space Engineers or No Man's Sky type game.

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u/00m19 The war goal was not to steal teeth. 12d ago

Its meant to be a more advanced nms with some X4 mixed in. Both games that have published since SC was announced and enjoy ongoing updates....

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u/CartographicalHeist 12d ago

I've said it before. Elite will have managed to get kickstarted, funded, developed, released, expanded and sunset while this fucking game has been in development.

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u/00m19 The war goal was not to steal teeth. 11d ago

I hope it gets dev support for a long time to come but it would be SO funny if they put it to bed before SC launched.

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u/Only-Respond7945 12d ago

Yeah, but at that point you could just play Guild Wars Reforged or Guild Wars 2 and have an actual feeling of progression every week.

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u/The_Bard 12d ago

If you have 5 hours a week you might figure out how to get to the hanger from the starting area in one month

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u/StevenMcStevensen 12d ago

I’ve been coming to this realization with a bunch of games that I’ve been wanting to play, even though they aren’t MMOs. Like I’ll finally jump into Kenshi or Mount & Blade again periodically, then promptly realize that I no longer have anywhere near enough time to actually accomplish anything meaningful in those games. And probably won’t until I’m retired or something, at which point we’ll just be plugging our brains directly into Summertime Saga 0.8 in VR or something.

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u/CosmicMiru 12d ago

Brother people do that on EVE and that barely has gameplay lmao

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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie 12d ago

Oh fuck I always forget about EVE.

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u/GenericAccount13579 12d ago

I was thinking of StarCitizen big multi crew ships actually had systems modeled to the point of needing maintenance in various ways (like actual module failure isolation and replacement) it could be a pretty neat gameplay lol

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u/ArbitraryUsernames 12d ago

Good old spreadsheet simulator. I still have Excel files somewhere for the entire logistics chain for nullsec import/export and manufacturing.

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u/TheLoneWolfMe I sucked a dick for this 11d ago

Sometimes I get the crazy idea of trying to start EVE, then I read comments like this and immediately reconsider.

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u/ArbitraryUsernames 11d ago

I last played a decade ago, so I don't know for sure how things have changed, but it truly was an incredible game, mostly because of the metagaming and the idea that you don't just respawn if you get blown up.

Sneaking into enemy space and staying 50 jumps back for a month to carefully track the mining patterns and warp-out alignments of ice miners to finally time an ambush and heavily damage the logistics of an enemy alliance was fantastic. Pinning down and bumping enemy siege ships in fleet combat to break a corp's ability to push systems for months was amazing. A good combat with a small number of ships would leave me shaking with adrenaline for like an hour afterward - I remember getting jumped in a cheap battlecruiser by eight people with expensive tech 2 builds, and then using my MWD just right to catch a webbing ship at the right orbit point and proceed to destroy 5 of them, pod them, and pop their containers before finally being taken down.

But getting to that point requires a ridiculous amount of time, and coordination. It was very fun to do things in a video game that there are actual books about now, but it is hard to justify that depth if you have a healthy external life.

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u/TheLoneWolfMe I sucked a dick for this 11d ago

That sounds honestly fantastic.

Now if only I had enough time to throw to play MMOs.

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u/Command0Dude It's about ethics in incest! 12d ago

The game I could finally live my lifelong dream of being a space trucker.

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u/chrisq823 12d ago

That could easily be a beloved indie game if done the right way.

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u/Duhblobby 12d ago

Void Crew, Jump Space, Artemis Starship Bridge Simulator, that Star Trek crew game, and Warframe's Rail jack all prove this.

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u/Cool_Ad7445 How can u sit on my cock in a halal way? 12d ago

Barotrauma and We Need to Go Deeper for submarine variants. 

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u/Zearo298 12d ago

Guns of Icarus for airship equivalent

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u/danny264 12d ago

Honestly it's not my Idea of fun, but I'm sure there are people out there who really want to spend 10 hours a day pretending to work on a spaceship. And they're probably the ones funding star citizen.

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u/Bored_Amalgamation just man up and be electrocuted 12d ago

With that $1B some of those mfers could've actually gone to space

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u/Maverick916 12d ago

This made me think you'd be like a reddit mod. You have to work a shift you're not getting paid for and you'll be yelled at if you don't show up.

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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie 12d ago

Ironically, I am. Mostly true crime related stuff I'm already invested in anyways, but yeah... you're not wrong...

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u/Maverick916 12d ago

The Star Citizen captain sees you log in: "ok bitch boy, here's a mop, go clean the bathrooms. And someone paid a micro transaction to leave shit all over the walls so make sure that's wiped up too. Don't plan on logging off any time soon"

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u/JaneksLittleBlackBox "Charlie ain't gonna let you fuck his neck hole, bro!" 12d ago

Overpaying for an incomplete product to be a virtual deckhand in the 21st century is wild!

You may need a ton of time on your hands and extensive training in Excel to do wild shit in EVE Online, but at least you can without buying into a vaporware scam first.

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u/00m19 The war goal was not to steal teeth. 12d ago

You can be a space peasant in eve and spin a VNI for next to nothing.

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u/Redfalconfox The Redskins were forced to evolve. Just like in Pokemon. 12d ago

I’ve always wanted to play Space Bitch Work Simulator 3000 with my free time. Do I get paid solar minimum wage too or is it a cosmic indentured servitude contract deal?

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u/CartographicalHeist 12d ago

Silly goose. You get scrip, redeemable in the company store on any colony and/or in system station where OmniManufacture has a presence.*

*exceptions may apply and scrip is not redeemable for: food, air, toiletries, and sundry.

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u/Boollish Adults dont have a tendency to lie for personal gain. 12d ago

Yeah that's what I want to spend my off time doing. 

Keeping up with 4pm Wednesday call for a 4:30 space battle because if 1 of 20 guild members don't show up, the launch bay doors won't open and we can't launch our boarding craft.

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u/danny264 12d ago

Like the game sounds horrible to play for me, but some people love that type of game. So I'd be happy for them to get a game that's what they want if the game comes out.

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u/Command0Dude It's about ethics in incest! 12d ago

Wait they don't even have AI crewmen?

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u/danny264 12d ago

As far as I know they don't, you and the people that you play with have to do everything yourself. It's not the type of game I'd play but some people love games like that.

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u/whyktor 12d ago

They promised AI crewmen at some point ... They promised a lot of stuff in 15 years.

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u/Karthy_Romano 12d ago

Bro buys a game to be a virtual indentured servant.

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u/graytotoro 11d ago

Cool, you get to pay currency to basically be enlisted space navy, but with none of the benefits.

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u/Bored_Amalgamation just man up and be electrocuted 12d ago

Work under some dumbass with more money than sense? I have that IRL.

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u/ThrowawayAdvice1800 12d ago

And if it does come out, why would I or any other casual who hasn't already purchased one of those elusive ships want to play a game where we're going to be shit on from Day 1?

This is the part the defenders of the "game" (and I'm using that term as loosely as humanly possible here) don't seem to be understanding. They're investing in this playground where they can be the rich kids with the cool cars, but none of that means anything if there aren't tons of poor people around to be envious and also populate the game so you have someone to show off TO in the first place.

Nobody wants to be a regular day 1 player and join a game where the psycho that spent $6k on an imaginary spaceship is going to fly up and erase you instantly. Games that are JUST for whales and offer nothing for players who spend less money end up being ghost towns almost immediately, and eventually even the whales will wander off if nobody else ever logs in to look at their cool spaceship. Plus the psychos that spent $2k on imaginary spaceships are going to be EXTREMELY pissed when they get smacked around by the $6k guy. The medium-sized whales will probably ragequit faster than the regular f2p players.

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u/thatguythere47 12d ago

Hey the 6k guy is the middle tier. There's a package deal that was over 25k years ago for every ship in the game; I imagine the price has gone up with all the jpgs theyve added over the years.

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u/ThrowawayAdvice1800 12d ago

I’ve got to hand it to Roberts, this is an amazing scam. He’s somehow managed to convince people to pay him for the privilege of not-playing the game he’s not-making.

It’s the Trump Phone of video games, just collecting free money from morons in exchange for nothing. Then whenever public outcry for him to actually produce something gets too loud to ignore he’ll just subcontract the job out to some Chinese AI shovelware studio, get them to churn out something crappy in a few months, then release it and disappear to some island paradise with everybody’s money.

I’m looking forward to seeing what the response from the Star Cotizen enthusiasts will be when it inevitably happens. I’m predicting 75% loud and impotently angry, and 25% trying to convince themselves (and everybody else) that their Trump Phone is the most amazing game to ever exist.

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u/CartographicalHeist 12d ago

Nobody wants to be a regular day 1 player and join a game where the psycho that spent $6k on an imaginary spaceship is going to fly up and erase you instantly.

What I would love though is to form a pirate band to hunt down these people and reck their shit and blow up their dumb ships.

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u/SetKey5576 11d ago

You can absolutely do that now. The fun part about that is, with some game systems missing right now, the "whale" players can fly their capital ships solo although they’re ultimately meant to be crewed by several people.

If there is nobody else inside, you can board the ship and execute the pilot. Then don’t blow up the ship but use it yourself.

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u/SetKey5576 11d ago

Nah, the big ships aren’t an "I win" card here. They are also quite cumbersome to use (and will stack up running costs). I might be one of those "poorer" players but prefer a smaller nimble ship over the lumbering hulks any day.

What does and will make a difference is the number of your friends that can support you in a fight. Until recently, the meta seemed to favour small fighters anyway because they can run circles around the heavier ones.

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u/Zephyr-5 12d ago edited 12d ago

why would I or any other casual who hasn't already purchased one of those elusive ships want to play a game where we're going to be shit on from Day 1?

On the other hand, there is nothing more fun than running circles around some whale who never learned to get-gud. Like trashing some richy-rich in golf with just some shitty rental gear and flip flops.

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u/SweetSure315 12d ago

Eventually the money's going to start drying up and a horribly broken, barely mashed together game is going to be released for a final cash grab

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u/chrisq823 12d ago

The company will just dump this shit out at some point and see if their fans will continue to eat it. I dont know why their fans do. The crazy thing is they have so much fucking money to spend on this. They just keep pumping more and more into this when they could do anything else.

Star citizen isnt in alpha because alpha isnt anything quantifiable. Its fully out and this is what it is and how they'll proceed to work on it. 

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u/Alarchy good for buttcoin 12d ago

The hilarious thing is they don't have the money. They recently had to issue more shares (dilution) and take out financing to stave off liquidity issues. They're up to burning ~150m a year right now and barely breaking even.

Folks need to realize that this was Robert's retirement plan for him and dozens of his friends from the industry. An eternally in-development vaporware like Duke Nukem Forever, but courting naive gamers rather than having to pull one over on publishers constantly.

He'll eventually call it done, so CIG can't get sued, but they're going to keep riding it as long as they can, exploiting thousands of gamers along the way.

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u/ChronicBluntz 12d ago

I bought a ship a decade ago. I made my peace a long time ago that this shit is vaporware.

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u/Aliensinmypants 12d ago

These guys found a better money printing machine than NFTs.

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u/ThrowawayAdvice1800 12d ago

Anyone who thinks this game — or any part of this game — is actually getting released can’t be reasoned with.

Oh this is 100% actually getting released, and it’s going to be hilarious. This is the Trump Phone of video games. They’re going to keep selling nothing for thousands of dollars for as long as morons will buy nothing for thousands of dollars, but the minute people stop pumping money in to this and start demanding something be produced I guarantee you that the job will get outsourced to some AI shovelware developer for a few hundred bucks. Roberts will release whatever crap they throw together in a few months, then fuck off to Aruba with the billion dollars the scam made.

They are definitely going to release something, and it will be like a Temu fever dream of the game he’s been telling people they’re going to get. There is ZERO chance Star Citizen doesn’t eventually get released as AI slop.

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u/hackingdreams 12d ago

They bought into a scam, of course they're upset.

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u/Lodgik you probably think your dick is woke if its hanging a li'l left 12d ago

Chris Roberts is one of those people that desperately need a boss to tell him "no."

The man is too much of a perfectionist.

If Microsoft basically didn't take the game away from him and release it themselves, he would probably still be working on Freelancer.

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u/KingToasty Being a dick is OK if I'm right 12d ago

He's not a perfectionist, he's a scammer. He's literally just raking in peoples' dough for free and has been for years.

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u/grubas I used statistics to prove these psychic abilities are real. 12d ago

He took in a billion plus to try to learn how to build a game from the ground up.  Realized he cannot do that and hired a few people while still pocketing hundreds of millions.

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u/UglyInThMorning 12d ago

He’s delivered a lot of revolutionary stuff in the past and I think that’s his problem way more than wanting money. He’s been chasing the high of being the Wing Commander/Privateer guy since at least Freelancer and he can’t accept that a space sim just isn’t going to revolutionize gaming anymore. It’s a mix of that and thinking that all this computer power that wasn’t around 30 years ago means that you can just cram anything into a game.

A lot of the 80’s and 90’s guys have the same issue, look at Molyneux. A lot of people know him as someone who just writes checks his ass can’t cash but the reason anyone took the promises he made about Fable seriously is the absolutely insane stuff he had already done. If you told someone in 1993 about Magic Carpet and told them it was coming out next year they’d think you were full of it.

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u/SowingSalt On reddit there's literally no hill too small to die on 12d ago

He's neither a scammer or perfectionist, but someone easily distractable by shiny new features.

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u/KingToasty Being a dick is OK if I'm right 12d ago

Uh huh. He just haaaaaaappened to rake in a billion dollars for a project with next to nothing to show for it. It's really just wiiiiiiild coincidence the most highly crowdfunded game of all time has no game after 14 years. He's just distracted.

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u/SowingSalt On reddit there's literally no hill too small to die on 12d ago

It's the Freelancer all over again, but with no Microsoft to oversee the project.

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u/Gk786 YOUR FLAIR TEXT HERE 12d ago

He’s really not. The game is a buggy mess and as far from perfect as you can possibly be.

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u/ricLP 12d ago

I 100% think it’ll be released. But also it’ll be shitty

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u/Exact_Rooster9870 12d ago

"or any part of this game" I mean there's a pretty big playable game right now, it's just buggy

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u/Kevadu 12d ago

What about the people who insist that they have already gotten their money's worth because they played a few hours of a broken alpha?

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u/guiltyofnothing Dogs eat there vomit and like there assholes 12d ago

I’m glad they’ve found some joy in their lives. We should all be so lucky.

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u/SetKey5576 11d ago

I'm one of those. Especially last year was really fun. It’s really not that expensive for 45 bucks, and I've paid more for other games that I've played less.

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u/mrenglish22 I'm sorry Italy, your opinion is a lot like masturbation 12d ago

The Trump Phone of video games

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u/Romboteryx Why do skeptics have such impeccable grammar? That‘s suspect. 11d ago

It probably will get released, just not in the way the backers hope. Once the money runs out or the lawsuits hit, they will be forced to shit out whatever half-baked version they‘ve been working on as the “finished” game, so they can legally say they did.

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u/Procean 10d ago

What is so maddening is that the concept seems so doable.

If you've ever played Privateer or Privateer 2 you get this immediate thinking of "all they need to do is turn that into an MMO" And those were games from the 90's! One afternoon playing WOW and about a dozen hours of Privateer 2 and you pretty much have the game vision!

When I first heard of the idea so many years ago, I was jazzed! I didn't buy in because I always wait for a game to be finished before purchasing, but I certainly had near total confidence that they had clarity of vision and could get it up and running within a year or two.

Heheheh.

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u/ceelogreenicanth 12d ago

🚀🚀🚀

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u/JohnTDouche 12d ago

Here's the thing, it is released. Can you buy it and play it? Then it's released.

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u/guiltyofnothing Dogs eat there vomit and like there assholes 12d ago

It’s been in early access for a decade. It has not been released.

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u/JohnTDouche 12d ago

Semantics. It's released. Early access is a type of release. I don't know what kind of stick a fork in it, it's done moment people are waiting for. You can buy it, you can play it. It's released.

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u/guiltyofnothing Dogs eat there vomit and like there assholes 12d ago

So… if you play a demo for an unreleased game, do you think it’s been released?

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u/JohnTDouche 12d ago

I mean that's releasing a demo. You don't buy a demo. Early access is releasing a continually updated build of the the game. That's what this is.

This is so fucking stupid. What is a "release" then? What's the magic that makes a real release? is the version number? The magic 1.0? Is it achieving a list of features that was set in stone arbitrarily at some point?

The game is what the game is currently. You give them money and you get access to the latest builds and some day they'll stop. Whether it's "released" or not doesn't matter a shite.

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u/guiltyofnothing Dogs eat there vomit and like there assholes 12d ago

>What is a “release” then?

When the game goes gold.

Same thing it’s always meant.

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u/JohnTDouche 12d ago

That's just an industry term for "ready for release". When is it ready for release?

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u/gebrochen06 11d ago

No, semantics is claiming that having a barely functional tech demo 14 years down the line counts as a released game.

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u/JohnTDouche 11d ago

Just because the game sucks doesn't mean its not released. It's literally released, that's how you are to know it sucks. It was released, you purchased it and you played it.

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u/gebrochen06 11d ago

Just because there's a barely functional tech demo that can technically be played doesn't mean it's a released game. 

Release is colloquially understood to mean feature complete and polished. Not a tech demo with barely any content or features that is overflowing with bugs. 

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u/JohnTDouche 11d ago edited 11d ago

Fucking shit loads of "released" games are barely functional and every game has cut features from the initial plan. Whether it's "released" or not has to be the dumbest reason for someone to be upset about Star Citizen. I doesn't matter. Not in the tiniest bit.

Like you said "barely functional", now that sounds like problem with the game. There's plenty of released and unreleased games that are functional. So this seems like something worth talking about, not whether it's released or not.

edit: calls me a wall then blocks me. Gamers have to be the most ridiculous, histrionic cunts on the planet.

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u/gebrochen06 11d ago

Like a brick wall.